Best Matches: Brock Lesnar

2002:

• Brock Lesnar Vs Rob Van Dam – Vengeance 2002 – Intercontinental Championship - 3 ¼*
• Brock Lesnar Vs The Rock – Summerslam 2002 – WWE Championship - 3 ¼* - With less than 6 months since his WWE debut in 2002 Lesnar made big impact, by becoming an unbeatable beast, he won the Annual King of the Ring Tournament, he defeated various legends including Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan – and now he would lock his predator eyes on The Rock and his WWE Championship.
• Brock Lesnar Vs The Undertaker – Unforgiven 2002 – WWE Championship - 3*
• Brock Lesnar Vs The Undertaker – No Mercy 2002 – Hell in a Cell - WWE Championship - 4* - One of my favourite Hell in a Cell matches of all time; don’t see people post about it much. Brutal and bloody; it’s really good to see an established star like Undertaker really putting Lesnar over in his first year in WWE.
• Brock Lesnar & Paul Heyman Vs Edge – Rebellion 2002 – WWE Championship - 3 ½*

2003:

• 30-Man Royal Rumble Match – Royal Rumble 2003 – 3 ¼* - Add this to the list of Brock Lesnars accomplishments within the first 12 months of his WWE Career.
• Brock Lesnar & Chris Benoit Vs Charlie Haas, Kurt Angle & Shelton Benjamin – No Way Out 2003 – 4*
• Brock Lesnar Vs Kurt Angle – Wrestlemania 19 – WWE Championship - 4 ¼* - Two of the best amateur wrestlers in WWE history get the opportunity to showcase their skills and abilities in the main-event of the greatest spectacular in sports-entertainment. Unfortunately behind the scenes Angle was walking into this match with a banged up neck, and after this match Lesnar would walk out with an injured neck and concussion.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Big Show – Judgment Day 2003 – Stretcher Match - WWE Championship - 3 ¼*
• Brock Lesnar Vs Big Show Vs Kurt Angle – Vengeance 2003 – WWE Championship - 3 ¼*
• Brock Lesnar Vs Kurt Angle – Summerslam 2003 – WWE Championship - 4 ¼*
• Brock Lesnar Vs Kurt Angle – Smackdown 18/09/2003 – 60 Minute Iron Man Match - WWE Championship - 4 ¼* - Following the interference of the Taker, Lesnar would get another opportunity at the WWE Championship he lost to Angle a few weeks later. During the original brand split it’s easy to say that Smackdown was winning. Great storylines. Great matches. But in 2003, they made the decision to have the first ever 60 minute Iron Man Match on television. It would be for the WWE Championship against two of the greatest all around professional wrestlers Brock Lesnar & Kurt Angle. This is the final match in their trilogy of matches.
• Brock Lesnar & John Cena Vs Kurt Angle & The Undertaker – Smackdown 02/10/2003 - 3 ¾*
• Brock Lesnar Vs Chris Benoit – Smackdown 04/12/2003 – WWE Championship - 4 ¼* - This is a very underrated gem from the great Smackdown era from 2002-2004. Two of the best athletes of all time compete in the squared circle for the WWE Championship; previous to this Benoit had made Lesnar tap out at the Survivor Series PPV. This match gives us a tease of how Benoits 2004 would go.

2004:

• Brock Lesnar Vs Eddie Guerrero – No Way Out 2004 – WWE Championship - 4* - (I’m gonna steal a quote/paraphrase from Scott Hall - again) Dreams do come true, hard work does pay off and bad times don’t last and that was true for Eddie Guerrero. Eddie Guerrero wins the big one against Brock Lesnar. Ignore the interferences and all that nonsense; this is just a special moment for everyone who saw Eddie Guerrero overcome his addictions. This math would also further help set up the Lesnar Vs Goldberg match from Wrestlemania 20.

After his match at Wrestlemania 20, Brock Lesnar would leave WWE to pursue a career in NFL for the Minnesota Vikings, however he was cut from the team before the 2004-2005 season. He would return to professional wrestling briefly for New Japan Pro Wrestling in 2005, around this time there were miscellaneous reports of legal disputes between Lesnar/WWE. In 2006 he pursued a career in MMA, he was signed to UFC in 2008 and was signed until the end of 2011. In 2012, in shockingly fashion he returned to WWE after being away for 8 years.

2012:

• Brock Lesnar Vs John Cena – Extreme Rules 2012 – Extreme Rules Match - 4 ½* - Brock Lesnars first back match in 8 years, it’s bloody and absolutely brutal. Plenty of people complain about the ending being another ‘LOLCENAWINS’ but in terms of reasoning for why they did it I completely understand it. Plus Lesnar would get redemption just two years later.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Triple H – Summerslam 2012 – No Disqualification, No Count Out - 3 ½* - In Brock’s previous run in WWE, he and Triple H never got to have a one on one match with each other, so this was treated as a special deal. It’s pretty brutal (something that becomes a major pattern in almost every Brock Lesnar Match since he’s returned). This would be the first of their three matches.

2013:

• Brock Lesnar Vs Triple H – Extreme Rules 2013 – Steel Cage Match - 4*
• Brock Lesnar Vs CM Punk – Summerslam 2013 – No Disqualification - 4 ½* - This match was branded as ‘The Beast Vs. The Best’, two Paul Heyman guys facing each other in the co-main event of one of the greatest ppvs in the modern era. A lot of people state that this was the last match that Punk ever really cared about, because after this match he has a pretty forgettable run until he leaves the company.

2014:

• Brock Lesnar Vs John Cena – Summerslam 2014 – WWE World Heavyweight Championship - 4 ¼* - As King (or JBL, honestly I forgot) would say on the next night on Raw – this match ‘is the most one-sided World Championship Match in the history of WWE’. That is completely right, within the first 15 seconds Lesnar lays Cena out with an F-5. Then for the next 20 minutes Lesnar would beat the living hell out of Cena including giving him 16 German Suplexes in the process. This totally redeemed his fight at Extreme Rules against Cena.
• Brock Lesnar Vs John Cena – Night of Champions 2014 – WWE World Heavyweight Championship - 3 ½*

2015:

• Brock Lesnar Vs John Cena Vs Seth Rollins – Royal Rumble 2015 – WWE World Heavyweight Championship - 4 ¾* - Arguably one of the best WWE Matches of 2015 – really showcased all three mens skills and abilities. Also, one of the best triple threat matches in history, really recommend people rewatch this match/watch this match.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Roman Reigns (Vs Seth Rollins) – Wrestlemania 31 – WWE World Heavyweight Championship - 4 ½* - This match was originally stated as 1 on 1 match but then a shocking occurrence happened – Seth Rollins cashed in his Money in the Briefcase.. in the Main Event of a Wrestlemania.. and won in which is called ‘the Heist of the Century’. This was the complete opposite of what everyone expected – very little hype/predicted ending and it completely caught everyone by surprise with how good it was.
• Brock Lesnar Vs The Undertaker – Summerslam 2015 – 4* - 16 months after Brock Lesnar defeated Undertaker at Wrestlemania (ending his 20+ year undefeated streak) Undertaker would make his return to WWE in shockingly fashion to cost Lesnar the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. So the official rematch was set for Summerslam in the main-event and it was a great match between the two, however there is some nonsense with the ending but that would lead to a third-match in Hell in a Cell.
• Brock Lesnar Vs The Undertaker – Hell in a Cell 2015 – Hell in a Cell Match - 4 ¼*

2016:

• Brock Lesnar Vs Dean Ambrose Vs Roman Reigns – Fastlane 2016 – 4 ½*
• Brock Lesnar Vs Randy Orton – Summerslam 2016 - 3*

Honourable Mentions:

• Brock Lesnar Vs Jeff Hardy – Backlash 2002 - Brock Lesnars first WWE PPV Match.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Ric Flair – Raw 01/07/2002
• Brock Lesnar Vs Rob Van Dam – King of the Ring 2002 - Lesnar wins King of the Ring in what is the last King of the Ring tournament for four years.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Hulk Hogan – Smackdown 08/08/2002 - Brock Lesnar was billed as ‘the Next Big Thing’ and that was sure shown when he defeated arguably the biggest Wrestling personality of all time – Hulk Hogan in shockingly fashion.
• Brock Lesnar Vs The Rock Vs Triple H – Global Warming 2002
• Brock Lesnar Vs Big Show – Survivor Series 2002 - WWE Championship - After almost a year of partnership, Paul Heyman his agent would turn against Lesnar and cost him the championship.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Big Show – Smackdown 12/06/2003 - WWE Championship - Thought I’d include this for the big ‘ring break’ spot.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Rey Mysterio – Smackdown 12/12/2003 - WWE Championship
• Brock Lesnar Vs Goldberg – Wrestlemania 20 - This was both mens last matches in WWE (until they would return 8 years later, and 12 years later). News leaked earlier about both mens departure from WWE so it invoked anger in the Madison Square Garden crowd who absolutely shat on this match – and rightfully so. The match takes about 7 minutes before a move is actually made and then it’s just rest-holds for a bit. Stone Cold Steve Austin (who was special-guest referee) would receive the most positive chants from the fans. I should also include that in a weeks time this rematch will be happening at Survivor Series.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Kazuyuki Fujita Vs Masahiro Chono – NJPW 2006
• Brock Lesnar Vs Kurt Angle – IGF 19/03/2007
• Brock Lesnar Vs Frank Mir – UFC 81 - UFC Debut Match
• Brock Lesnar Vs Randy Couture – UFC 91 – Winning the UFC Heavyweight Championship
• Brock Lesnar Vs Frank Mir – UFC 100 – Main-Eventing the 100th UFC PPV.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Alistair Overem – UFC 131 – Brock Lesnars last match in UFC before returning to WWE.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Triple H – Wrestlemania 29 - No Holds Barred Match
• Brock Lesnar Vs Undertaker – Wrestlemania 30 - Brock Lesnar would do the most shocking thing in the modern era when he conquered the Undertakers Undefeated Streak at Wrestlemania which had be going on for almost 20+ years, thus becoming the '1 in 21 and 1'. If Lesnar needed anything to establish him as a 'legitimate fighter' in WWE during his return in 2012 this definitely helped skyrocket him to the promise land. Everything after this fight would go on to prove that he would demolish Cena to become champion, then easily defeat nearly all his opponents with multiple suplexes.
• Brock Lesnar Vs Kofi Kingston – WWE Network Special: Beast in the East
• Brock Lesnar Vs Dean Ambrose – Wrestlemania 32 - No Holds Barred Match
• Brock Lesnar Vs Mark Hunt – UFC 200
• Brock Lesnar Vs Goldberg - Survivor Series 2016

Why do people think Brock Lesnar has had a bad reign?

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3. Why do people think Brock Lesnar has had a bad reign?

LAC_HARLO 4 days ago#1 Did we forget his great feuds with Braun, Samoa Joe and the Fatal Four Way Summerslam match which might be Main Card MOTY?  Even the build up with Regins was pretty good until fans decided to shit on the match. stickyreportquote

Hardcore_Adult 4 days ago#2 Those were nothing matches for the most part. I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down... reportquote

EpicKingdom_ 4 days ago#3 People just want a full timer. Sick of suplex city bitch. (edited 4 days ago)reportquote

Jigglybuff 4 days ago#4 EpicKingdom_ posted... People just want a full timer. Sick of suplex city bitch. Because everyone wants another KO-like title run? Or how about the Evolution days? Where raw had a 20+ minute opening segment with HHH bragging about being champ, and ended the night with another stupid promo or beatdown from evolution.  Those were the greatest. We need more of those title runs 3DS FC: 3179-7229-7079 Official Supergirl of the Injustice 2 board. reportquote

truffleshuffles 4 days ago#5 I find Lesnar as a wrestler very boring right now with the suplex city thing he has got going on. The only match of his I found interesting recently was against aj. I just can't see him showing up every other month for the first 10 minutes of the show, have Heyman cut the same boring promo and he bounces around like a moron entertaining or adding prestige to the title reportquote

Charged151 4 days ago#6 EpicKingdom_ posted... People just want a full timer. Sick of suplex city bitch. truffleshuffles posted... I find Lesnar as a wrestler very boring right now with the suplex city thing he has got going on. The only match of his I found interesting recently was against aj. I just can't see him showing up every other month for the first 10 minutes of the show, have Heyman cut the same boring promo and he bounces around like a moron entertaining or adding prestige to the title Nice summing up people... I'm...the...official...master...of...ellipses... reportquote

The_Dragon_Died 4 days ago#7 I personally think Brock's reign has been horrible because he's never there. He didn't defend the title for the first time until three months after he won it. With the amount of content WWE produces, to me, that's unacceptable. I realize people think that makes the title feel more prestigious and I can respect that, but I disagree with that mindset completely. I'd take a "meh" reign like Owens' reign over an absentee Champion in a heartbeat. The Universal title feels completely meaningless and irrelevant to me.  That and when Lesnar does show up, it's the same thing every time. "Victimize, conquer" etc. while Brock stands there looking completely uninterested. Then the match happens and Brock's offense is 99% German suplexes and then he disappears again for a few months. It's tiring and boring and has been the norm for over three years now. If you wanna see a monster heel booked correctly, look at Braun Strowman or even Hall of Pain Mark Henry. That run was golden. This is just trash and boring. And I know I'm in the minority but that doesn't change a thing. I'm tired of it. The title needs to be back on TV. If you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple. Why do you continue to watch something that you don't like weekly? I don't get it. (edited 4 days ago)reportquote

snoochtonooch 4 days ago#8 Because he doesn’t appear on tv every week. They don’t are about wrestling or storylines they only care about belts and attire http://www.last.fm/user/snoochtonooch official protector of Cuddles the kitten of the rock board reportquote

ssjmole 4 days ago#9 I like Brock's run its credible and it's rare and special having him there. It feels more like real sports where they don't have the same title there every month. Signature, What's that? reportquote

Cubezilla3 4 days ago#10 He is never there, when he is there it's boring as hell, Heyman is just annoying as hell. Not changing this sig until Chester FC return to the Football League Started 19/10/2014 reportquote

Dynedux 4 days ago#11 A legitimate person holds the title, and him being there every so often means it takes a special circumstance to bring him in, making the title important. The narrative that he's a part timer and his reign sucks because of it is so lame that even the wwe writers are trying to use the online bitch-fest in a storyline to garner Roman Reigns sympathy pop from the crowd - let THAT sink in Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244 (edited 4 days ago)reportquote

Charged151 4 days ago#12 Dynedux posted... A legitimate person holds the title, and him being there every so often means it takes a special circumstance to bring him in, making the title important. The narrative that he's a part timer and his reign sucks because of it is so lame that even the wee writers are trying to use the online bitch-fest in a storyline to garner Roman Reigns sympathy pop from the crowd - let THAT sink in And yet Reigns's promo initial promo about Brock being a part-time b**** was great.  Brock should just be a special attraction, not a part-time champ. Just like Undertaker I'm...the...official...master...of...ellipses... reportquote

EpicKingdom_ 4 days ago#13 I like Brock, definitely not Roman just to put that on record. reportquote

Dynedux 4 days ago#14 Charged151 posted... Dynedux posted... A legitimate person holds the title, and him being there every so often means it takes a special circumstance to bring him in, making the title important. The narrative that he's a part timer and his reign sucks because of it is so lame that even the wee writers are trying to use the online bitch-fest in a storyline to garner Roman Reigns sympathy pop from the crowd - let THAT sink in And yet Reigns's promo initial promo about Brock being a part-time b**** was great Yeah all those fan certainly cheered Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244 (edited 4 days ago)reportquote

BudDupree48 4 days ago#15 wait the summerslam match where he laid outside the whole time was a good match for him? try not. he got carried reportquote

SSJ3Goku222 4 days ago#16 Only a 12 year old would like this current Brock title run.  The way Brock is booked makes him and the title look bad cause people are going to watch and be like this guy just shows up every once in a while and beats everybody then disappears again for months why should we care about him cause he is never there or the people chasing him when they stand no chance? The Big Ghetto Star ain't nobodies fool. X-Box Live GT: YoungReezy1337 reportquote

Charged151 4 days ago#17 Dynedux posted... Charged151 posted... Dynedux posted...  show hidden quote(s) And yet Reigns's promo initial promo about Brock being a part-time b**** was great Yeah all those fan certainly cheered The crowd popped when Reigns called him "an entitled piece of crap who hides behind his contract". Reigns also controlled the crowd to boo Brock at several points.  Other sites such as bleacherreport also had multiple articles praising that particular promo. I'm...the...official...master...of...ellipses... (edited 4 days ago)reportquote

Dynedux 4 days ago#18 That certainly carried over pretty well Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244 reportquote

Charged151 4 days ago#19 Dynedux posted... That certainly carried over pretty well If you are referring to the WM34 match, then I get what you are saying. The booking was not good there... I'm...the...official...master...of...ellipses... reportquote

Dynedux 4 days ago#20 Charged151 posted... Dynedux posted... That certainly carried over pretty well If you are referring to the WM34 match, then I get what you are saying. The booking was not good there... No, not the match. I often point out that a lot of the criticism Brock and Roman get aren't fair - but that match was garbage. I'm talking about the weeks after that promo. No one cared about Romans complaints (possibly because it was just smark parroting the wwe writers were doing.) Jericho said it best; Brock is a big ass dude, legit fighter, and fucking murders people. No one wants to boo that. Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244 reportquote

MatureGambino 4 days ago#21 I don't have an issue with the amount of times he show up since it makes the Championship feel monumental, rare and prestigious. What I do have an issue with is his in ring work. The whole suplex city gimmick is redundant and lazy. He was more entertaining in the ring during his 2002-2004 run which is what made me a fan of him in the first place. Now I can care less about him. "Finesse" reportquote

ShadowRaiden00 4 days ago#22 People want a dull, 50/50 champion. Brock without question has been amazing as champion. This obsession with move counting just shows whos been in a real fight and what you actually want. Black Chapters http://i.imgur.com/T5VJ5Mi.gifv http://i.imgur.com/F3Yu7Aw.gifv http://i.imgur.com/7s86tr1.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCkVmSI.gif reportquote

CourtofOwls 4 days ago#23 this 1980's "only defend the title every 3 months" (or less) bullshit doesn't fly you have a weekly show and monthly PPV he also stiffed braun,refused to work with jinder and now has apparently thrown a fit backstage at wrestlemania so has been unprofessional [?] "He must've been a very important chimp." reportquote

Hardcore_Adult 4 days ago#24 Official Exit on this thread: Done. Literally. I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down... reportquote

Dynedux 4 days ago#25 CourtofOwls posted... this 1980's "only defend the title every 3 months" (or less) bullshit doesn't fly you have a weekly show and monthly PPV he also stiffed braun,refused to work with jinder and now has apparently thrown a fit backstage at wrestlemania so has been unprofessional Braun stiffed him first 😂😂😂 Who said he refused to work with Jinder? Who said he threw a fit backstage? Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244 reportquote

lilhurk1985187 4 days ago#26 Dynedux posted... CourtofOwls posted... this 1980's "only defend the title every 3 months" (or less) bullshit doesn't fly you have a weekly show and monthly PPV he also stiffed braun,refused to work with jinder and now has apparently thrown a fit backstage at wrestlemania so has been unprofessional Braun stiffed him first 😂😂😂 Who said he refused to work with Jinder? Who said he threw a fit backstage? True Nobody Brock did "blow up" backstage but it was a work to get people thinking he is leaving WWE for UFC,hence why he threw the belt at Vince. The amount salt Android 17 causes you children is hilarious. Stay salty trashan fans. (edited 4 days ago)reportquote

snoochtonooch 4 days ago#27 I think he clearly didn’t want to work with Jinder which is why they switched gears so abruptly. But we got an AJ reign that’s still going and a great match with Brock so how is that a negative http://www.last.fm/user/snoochtonooch official protector of Cuddles the kitten of the rock board reportquote

Mr_Church1313 4 days ago#28 Brock is still working at WWE? Does he show up or is it some sort of backstage role? No no, we've gotta wait until someone edits it into the Wikipedia article, THEN it's irrevocable truth. (edited 4 days ago)reportquote

Dynedux 4 days ago#29 snoochtonooch posted... I think he clearly didn’t want to work with Jinder which is why they switched gears so abruptly. Ok, but what proof is out there that validates this theory even the slightest? Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244 reportquote

lilhurk1985187 4 days ago#30 Mr_Church1313 posted... Brock is still working at WWE? Does he show up or is it some sort of backstage role? He's the Raw champion. The amount salt Android 17 causes you children is hilarious. Stay salty trashan fans. reportquote

TonyRodney 4 days ago#31 CourtofOwls posted... this 1980's "only defend the title every 3 months" (or less) bullshit doesn't fly you have a weekly show and monthly PPV he also stiffed braun,refused to work with jinder and now has apparently thrown a fit backstage at wrestlemania so has been unprofessional Happened sometimes in the 90s as well on wcw. I once boxed my ferret and lost San Antonio Spurs ForeverFan reportquote

Saitsuofleaves 4 days ago#32 The reign started off well and proper. Out for the first PPV but a No 1 Contender match happened, SOLID program with Joe and you could tell all three guys were enjoying it. Then a Fatal Four Way that lived up to car crash expectations. It was after that point where it all went to hell. A poor match with Braun, disappearing for a while, a great match with AJ that would've been better had it been actually built up to for more than one week, and then feuding with Braun and Kane because...reasons before circling around to Roman and it fell off the rails, while also being gone for months inbetween. Burn...let it all burn. reportquote

Vacka 4 days ago#33 What like aj styles and jinder? Or like Bobby and Orton? Only somewhat likeable champ that's there's every week was Miz. I can go on forever Charlotte and her fucking tag team matches The whole smackdown tag team division until bb won it like new day vs usos The whole bar Shield crap Ugh brock lesnar is better than anyone on raw aside from Samoa joe. You know why people like nxt?! Because almas/McIntyre/nakamura weren't there every damn week. As for who will beat Brock? Aliester black or lars sullivan Not changing this sig until almas debuts- 1/2/18 1-Almas 2-Baron Corbin 3 gargano 4-ciampa 5- nia Jax 6-black 7-adam Cole 8-lars sullivan 9-killian 10-rousey reportquote

Vacka 4 days ago#34 Dynedux posted... snoochtonooch posted... I think he clearly didn’t want to work with Jinder which is why they switched gears so abruptly. Ok, but what proof is out there that validates this theory even the slightest? Meltzer Not changing this sig until almas debuts- 1/2/18 1-Almas 2-Baron Corbin 3 gargano 4-ciampa 5- nia Jax 6-black 7-adam Cole 8-lars sullivan 9-killian 10-rousey reportquote

Poet Laureate 4 days ago#35 Jigglybuff posted... EpicKingdom_ posted... People just want a full timer. Sick of suplex city bitch. Because everyone wants another KO-like title run? Or how about the Evolution days? Where raw had a 20+ minute opening segment with HHH bragging about being champ, and ended the night with another stupid promo or beatdown from evolution.  Those were the greatest. We need more of those title runs You completely polarized his comment. I don't he's saying he wants Brock rambling for 20 minutes at the start of every show. Wanting the Champion to show up more than 8 times a year is pretty reasonable. His feuds with Braun and Joe were great. But the Joe match was underwhelming, and the Braun match was bad.  And Brock was the least entertaining part of the fourway. He seemed absent from the match and the build from what I remember. "The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer." (Psalm 18:2 - ESV) reportquote

Assassin2713 4 days ago#36 The Fatal 4 Way and AJ matches were great IGN: DBol - FC: 0018-1136-2827 Currently Playing: Pokemon Ultra Sun, Kirby Star Allies, Marvel Strike Force, Splatoon 2, Pokken Tournament DX, Mario Kart Deluxe reportquote

BazzaPersonal 4 days ago#37 That Joe match at GBOF was so underrated. https://imgur.com/a/EcfVo https://imgur.com/a/KcX3Z reportquote

Poet Laureate 4 days ago#38 BazzaPersonal posted... That Joe match at GBOF was so underrated. How so? I thought the match started out really hot. But the end was both sudden, and anti-climactic. It felt like they were just getting started. "The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer." (Psalm 18:2 - ESV) reportquote

DarkDragon386 4 days ago#39 Poet Laureate posted... You completely polarized his comment. I don't he's saying he wants Brock rambling for 20 minutes at the start of every show. Wanting the Champion to show up more than 8 times a year is pretty reasonable. It's why you can't have a rational discussion on the PWB about this.  You can have a Jinder reign or a Brock reign, no in-between. reportquote

Lupin the 4th 4 days ago#40 Jigglybuff posted... EpicKingdom_ posted... People just want a full timer. Sick of suplex city bitch. Because everyone wants another KO-like title run? Or how about the Evolution days? Where raw had a 20+ minute opening segment with HHH bragging about being champ, and ended the night with another stupid promo or beatdown from evolution.  Those were the greatest. We need more of those title runs You know there is such thing as a middle ground between those, right? The Smiling Bandit (Strikes Again! Ha Ha Ha!) 3DS FC: 2793 0791 3739 PSN: Arsene_Lupin_IV reportquote

Dynedux 4 days ago#41 Vacka posted... Dynedux posted... snoochtonooch posted...  show hidden quote(s) Ok, but what proof is out there that validates this theory even the slightest? Meltzer Who is a fucking fraud pushing idiot. That isn't proof, that's clickbait. Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244 reportquote

TrulyEpicLawls 4 days ago#42 I prefer Lesnar rather than Roman beating the streak than going on a 1 or 2-year title reign having even worse and longer matches, which is what we would've got. Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep trying reportquote

cheese_game619 4 days ago#43 it will be looked back on favourably reportquote

Ivany2008 4 days ago#44 It was fine for the first few months. A guy that doesn't show up all the time has a better presence than someone who is shoved in our face. Paul Heyman, is a great advocate. The problem lies in that this lasted too long, and just because the WWE wants to remove Punk from the leading WWE. Had this lasted 6 months it would have been fine. But the guy has held the title for over a year with sporatic non noticeable breaks. Whats worse is that they keep fucking shoving Roman down our throats when there are more credible guys to beating Brock. You have Joe and Braun, both capable of taking down Brock and giving some legitimacy to the title. Now, Joe was injured, so why couldn't they have brought in Braun as the champion? Instead they make him win the tag titles, only to give it up the next day. What's even funnier is that he picks a kid, when just a couple seats down from that kid was(in the words of Ollie Davis) The Meanest Man in professional wrestling, Minoru Suzuki, to form THE SCARIEST TAG TEAM IN PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING. Even for one night, everyone at the Rumble would know who Minoru was, and they could use the same excuse to get rid of the titles, scheduling conflict and Minoru not wanting to work with the WWE. Jericho works with New Japan for a 1 off with Minoru Suzuki? fair play if you ask me. Now, I kid about that obviously, but it would have played with the crowd a bit. (edited 4 days ago)reportquote

dom316 4 days ago#45 Remember when we all loved Paul Heyman promos? That's how bad Lesnar's run has been. It has ruined Paul Hey man promos. Don't you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby! Don't you put that evil on us! YOU ARE NOT PARALYZED! R.I.P. Michael Clarke Duncan reportquote

cazashaw 4 days ago#46 ssjmole posted... I like Brock's run its credible and it's rare and special having him there. It feels more like real sports where they don't have the same title there every month. Not Changing Sig Until Tiger Woods Wins 18 Majors... GT: Cazmatrolium reportquote

Suspiria 4 days ago#47 Because it is terrible. No, him being a part timer doesn't change the fact that when he does show up, it's the same boring shit. Brock doing the same 2-3 moves over and over and generic "BROCK SMASH SUPLEX CITY BITCH!' shtick and Heyman cutting the same promo over and over. It's old. Plus, who the fuck is left for Lesnar to even have a credible feud with? As much as I didn't want Reigns winning the title again, it was time for Lesnar to drop that belt and go the fuck away. People can blabber 'b-b-b-b-ut it adds teh pristeege!' all they want, but championship feuds also have to be entertaining and engaging. There's nothing entertaining about Lesnar and he hasn't been in a long time. His act is stale. His character is stale. It's past time to move away from him. (edited 4 days ago)reportquote

NathanCopeland 4 days ago#48 man his matches with Joe and AJ were fucking dope Not Changing Until No More Heroes 3 Is Announced reportquote

BudDupree48 3 days ago#49 Suspiria posted... Because it is terrible. No, him being a part timer doesn't change the fact that when he does show up, it's the same boring shit. Brock doing the same 2-3 moves over and over and generic "BROCK SMASH SUPLEX CITY BITCH!' shtick and Heyman cutting the same promo over and over. It's old. Plus, who the fuck is left for Lesnar to even have a credible feud with? As much as I didn't want Reigns winning the title again, it was time for Lesnar to drop that belt and go the fuck away. People can blabber 'b-b-b-b-ut it adds teh pristeege!' all they want, but championship feuds also have to be entertaining and engaging. There's nothing entertaining about Lesnar and he hasn't been in a long time. His act is stale. His character is stale. It's past time to move away from him. reportquote

IAmNotThePope 3 days ago#50 Here's why I don't like Brock's title reign: 1. He hasn't had a truly good match since CM Punk in 2013, or even a decent one since Seth Rollins. His suplex city crap is cancer and it needed to end at least 2 years ago. 2. His part-time schedule destroys suspension of disbelief. So much for that 30 day rule, huh? 3. The Universal Championship is a joke because it's rarely defended. The argument that Brock taking months off between matches somehow makes the belt more "prestigious" is a bad joke. It has the opposite effect, making the belt irrelevant. 4. I don't like seeing full-time wrestlers I actually do care about and who actually do try to have good matches have to put Brock's lazy ass over. 5. I don't like Brock. I have never liked Brock. I was happy when he left WWE in 2004, and unhappy when he came back in 2012. I don't like watching him. I don't like listening to Heyman talk about him. I just want him to leave WWE and never come back. reportquote

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   TrulyEpicLawls 3 days ago#51 IAmNotThePope posted... 3. The Universal Championship is a joke because it's rarely defended. The argument that Brock taking months off between matches somehow makes the belt more "prestigious" is a bad joke. It has the opposite effect, making the belt irrelevant. 4. I don't like seeing full-time wrestlers I actually do care about and who actually do try to have good matches have to put Brock's lazy ass over. 5. I don't like Brock. I have never liked Brock. I was happy when he left WWE in 2004, and unhappy when he came back in 2012. I don't like watching him. I don't like listening to Heyman talk about him. I just want him to leave WWE and never come back. This doesn't add up though. If the belt's irrelevant and you don't have to watch him, and in fact don't see him most of the year anyway, what's the problem? Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep trying reportquote

   The_Dragon_Died 3 days ago#52 TrulyEpicLawls posted... IAmNotThePope posted... 3. The Universal Championship is a joke because it's rarely defended. The argument that Brock taking months off between matches somehow makes the belt more "prestigious" is a bad joke. It has the opposite effect, making the belt irrelevant. 4. I don't like seeing full-time wrestlers I actually do care about and who actually do try to have good matches have to put Brock's lazy ass over. 5. I don't like Brock. I have never liked Brock. I was happy when he left WWE in 2004, and unhappy when he came back in 2012. I don't like watching him. I don't like listening to Heyman talk about him. I just want him to leave WWE and never come back. This doesn't add up though. If the belt's irrelevant and you don't have to watch him, and in fact don't see him most of the year anyway, what's the problem? It's a freaking World title. The last thing it should feel like is an irrelevant joke, and I agree with Pope about the title and the rare defenses. Completely agree. If you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple. Why do you continue to watch something that you don't like weekly? I don't get it. reportquote

   cheese_game619 3 days ago#53 IAmNotThePope posted... His part-time schedule destroys suspension of disbelief. So much for that 30 day rule, huh? how many times does this need to be explained why would you strip your champion when you havent booked him in a title defence reportquote

   TrulyEpicLawls 3 days ago#54 The_Dragon_Died posted... TrulyEpicLawls posted... IAmNotThePope posted...  show hidden quote(s) This doesn't add up though. If the belt's irrelevant and you don't have to watch him, and in fact don't see him most of the year anyway, what's the problem? It's a freaking World title. The last thing it should feel like is an irrelevant joke, and I agree with Pope about the title and the rare defenses. Completely agree. If it's irrelevant then the U.S. title or IC title can become more important to you, which actually happened for a while for most people. If it's a real problem, skip over the segments with Lesnar, Roman, the title, and watch the other stuff. I hate Randy Orton's matches, so I skip through them. I don't care about the cruiserweight division, they can do more with it, so I don't watch it, it doesn't even exist in my viewing experience. Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep trying reportquote

   Knowledge_King 3 days ago#55 Brock's feuds with Joe and Braun were great. His matches with Joe and AJ and the fatal fourway were good. His matches with Braun, Braun and Kane, and Roman Reigns sucked and he deflated all of their momentum.  Brock's boring when he does suplex city. And when you like someone and Brock just kinda squashes them, it's not fun. He's basically all build up and no ending...for over a year. I dislike year long reigns that aren't exciting and make me beg for someone to beat you. And they're always a Heyman guy too.  Then again, a year long reign might just be too long. Even Prince Puma's reign in LU seemed long, though good enough that I didn't mind...yet. I could see myself disliking it eventually. http://www.warwithwords.com He Who Leads: Global Ebook Award Winner:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CE0TLLM reportquote

   SGame 3 days ago#56 Since I don’t watch pay per views I have yet to see Brock lesner in a match since he has been back. All I’ve seen from him is him standing in the ring listening to heyman talk about him for 20 minute promos and the occasional beat down "Always a pleasure to meet a Jedi"- Jango Fett reportquote

   Bootflap 2 days ago#57 Imagine if Brock just busted out the Shooting Star Press again at a PPV? I wonder if he could still do it. The only reason he botched it at WM19 was the distance was too far, he did it like a thing of beauty beforehand. It'd be such a WTF moment for fans seasoned to modern Brock. reportquote

   Charged151 2 days ago#58 Bootflap posted... Imagine if Brock just busted out the Shooting Star Press again at a PPV? I wonder if he could still do it. The only reason he botched it at WM19 was the distance was too far, he did it like a thing of beauty beforehand. It'd be such a WTF moment for fans seasoned to modern Brock. He won't... I'm...the...official...master...of...ellipses... reportquote

   ShadowRaiden00 2 days ago#59 Bootflap posted... Imagine if Brock just busted out the Shooting Star Press again at a PPV? eh don't need it Black Chapters http://i.imgur.com/T5VJ5Mi.gifv http://i.imgur.com/F3Yu7Aw.gifv http://i.imgur.com/7s86tr1.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCkVmSI.gif reportquote

   TrulyEpicLawls 2 days ago#60 Bootflap posted... Imagine if Brock just busted out the Shooting Star Press again at a PPV? I wonder if he could still do it. The only reason he botched it at WM19 was the distance was too far, he did it like a thing of beauty beforehand. It'd be such a WTF moment for fans seasoned to modern Brock. That would be great for a final big battle, but he didn't want to do it first time and was talked into doing it by Angle (hence why he really fucked it up) and that has lead to this 'I do what I fucking choose to do' mentality that means if he say no to your idea, move on, don't bug him like Ambrose probably did. Plus he's not doing this job for the art or moments, it's just a job. Not gonna risk making himself a vegetable when he could walk out any time and still be rich and happy. He's probably only here at all because he made crazy demands when Vince asked him back, so crazy he didn't think he'd be crazy enough to accept them. This is if he's still even agile enough to do it. Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep trying reportquote

   Byron808 2 days ago#61 younger Brock was a superior athlete. i'd say the odds are less he could perform the Shooting Star press. it's like saying Big Poppa Pump could still perform young Scotty Steiner's backflip body slam. you don't see the daddy doing that move anymore for a reason. "Lightning Berserker SUCKS." - Brian Braun-Duin reportquote

   DeathMagnetic80 2 days ago#62 The shtick is old now. Brock goes away for months, builds to a PPV for a few weeks, usually wrestles the same match. Wrestlemania was abysmal. Just "suplex city", and spamming F5's. reportquote

   The_Dragon_Died 2 days ago#63 DeathMagnetic80 posted... The shtick is old now. Brock goes away for months, builds to a PPV for a few weeks, usually wrestles the same match. Wrestlemania was abysmal. Just "suplex city", and spamming F5's. Indeed. For a board that moans about predictability, Brock is the most predictable dude on the roster. Same thing every single time with very few exceptions. If you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple. Why do you continue to watch something that you don't like weekly? I don't get it. reportquote

   youngskillz 2 days ago#64 Like I always said his first run was far better even though it was far shorter. Quality over quantity. An that suplex city stuff is garbage. Lesnar doesn't care long as vince keeps paying. At this point only thing I'd like to see is lashley beat him an then he leaves forever. Metal Bands -- Dawn of Ashes, Disarmonia Mundi, Words Of Farewell, I Spit Ashes, Urilia, Dark Portrait, Temple of Demigod, Sidious, Septic Flesh. reportquote

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