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https://rajah.com/node/exclusive-details-james-ellsworths-attempt-have-accuser-robbed
As most of you have likely read about, James Ellsworth is being accused of inappropriate conduct with a 16-year old girl, who claims that Ellsworth sent her unsolicited nude pictures of himself. Apart from a brief statement when the story first broke, Ellsworth has remained quiet until earlier this evening when he released a statement claiming that the social media accounts that were used to send the messages were fake and created without his knowledge and consent. This isn’t true. According to a very trusted rajah.com source, Ellsworth's statements are a cover-up to try and salvage what may be left of his pro wrestling career. On the night that this story broke almost two weeks ago, I have it on good word that Ellsworth contacted someone on the East Coast and offered this person "a few thousand dollars" to find out where the 16-year old girl lived and to steal her cell phone and destroy it. Ellsworth wanted this done so that she would not be able to take any of the evidence on the phone and present it to police. I have nothing against Ellsworth, I don't even know him but these are details that I feel are pretty important to know as this story continues to play out. |
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Man, if in the end Ellworth can prove his innocence (because in social media, it's guilty until proven innocent), he'll have suffered so much bullshit through all of this. It's been noted that he's lost so much work since the allegations, and he'll likely not be able to recover, even if proven innocent.
I honestly hope he's guilty and it's proven so, because I can't fathom a world where it'll become more commonplace to point the finger at a famous person and ending their life with zero repercussions. |
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Until a reputable source says this I can't, in good conscious, believe it.
Not because I think that much of Ellsworth, on no, but ragsheets are the AIDS of wrestling and "news"
The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeant
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"I have it on good authority"
Well fuck, with airtight evidence like that, I say no need for a trial or anything. Let's proceed right to punishment. Seriously, I'm neither siding with Ellsworth or condemning him but stupid shit like this pisses me off. This person has offered literally nothing but this will still prejudice people against Ellsworth who are stupid and gonna treat it like gospel.
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Dynedux posted...
Until a reputable source says this I can't, in good conscious, believe it. This. These sites always claim to have 'insider sources'. I wouldn't be surprised if Elsworth was guilty. I also wouldn't be surprised if he was innocent. But let's wait until we have all the evidence on the table from reputable sources. |
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If the Wang doesn't fit,, you must acquit... Only way to prove it's not his peter, is to release the photos of his real Johnson for comparison.. if he's admitting it was his Johnson, he needs to show up some real evidence that he's not the one who sent them.. I wouldn't doubt someone could have hacked his phone and sent out junk pictures to girls without his knowledge... Look what happened to Paige..
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pycho316 posted...
"I have it on good authority" what are you babbling about? She has posted some of the pics on her twitter and gave them to one of the ragsheets that also posted them.
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Dez316 posted...
hulkhogan1 posted...Geez, what is it with random people on the internet coming out and accusing wrestlers of things this year? Do they not realize they’re potentially ruining these wrestlers lives just so they can get some attention? No, but making drama on twitter is when she could easily just take the photos to the police but no she wanted her name out there
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angleslam99 posted...
Dez316 posted...hulkhogan1 posted...show hidden quote(s) There's literally no problem with publicly shaming creeps like this. |
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Dez316 posted...
angleslam99 posted...Dez316 posted...show hidden quote(s) No, but if she never actually went to the police (which I don't know if she did or didn't)
The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeant
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Dynedux posted...
Dez316 posted...angleslam99 posted...show hidden quote(s) She apparently did, but can't prosecute Ellsworth because it was posted on social media first.
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WalktotheMoon posted...
The positive is, this is the wrestling business, if Ellsworth is proven not guilty, he'll still be able to find work. See Jerry Lawler. Except that was way worse. Lawler's wasn't in 2018. Time changes things, especially public perception of what's not accepted. Even if he's proven innocent, he's done. Dark_twisted posted... She apparently did, but can't prosecute Ellsworth because it was posted on social media first. She said she didn't because it was something that would be buried or some shit along those lines. You can look up the exact tweet in the big thread a few weeks ago about this. She deleted most of her tweets from twitter. |
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Dark_twisted posted...
Dynedux posted...Dez316 posted...show hidden quote(s) You do realize everyone did the wrong thing here
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angleslam99 posted...
You do realize everyone did the wrong thing here This is the most likely case scenario, I feel. I *do* think Ellsworth did it (but I want to give benefit of doubt), but posting it and outing someone like that in social media is a horrible thing too. Both events are destructive. |
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DUKLegend posted...
WalktotheMoon posted...The positive is, this is the wrestling business, if Ellsworth is proven not guilty, he'll still be able to find work. See Jerry Lawler. Except that was way worse. Literally what? I'm really starting to doubt all of this now
The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeant
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Dynedux posted...
DUKLegend posted...WalktotheMoon posted...show hidden quote(s) Found article on it. http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/11/17/alleged-victim-james-ellsworth-allegations-wtf-police-gonna/ |
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DUKLegend posted...
Dynedux posted...DUKLegend posted...show hidden quote(s) ....yeah, she's a literal idiot. To say her story is fishy is an understatement
The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeant
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Dez316 posted...
angleslam99 posted...Dez316 posted...show hidden quote(s) You see no problem with ruining a potentially innocent person’s life over something that could have been done privately instead of having to announce it to the world?
Hulkhogan1: Then, now, forever!
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hulkhogan1 posted...
You see no problem with ruining a potentially innocent person’s life over something that could have been done privately instead of having to announce it to the world? if he's sending dick pics to 16 year olds, then fuck him.
Just tell it to call you "Billy"...
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OrgeLambart posted...
If the Wang doesn't fit,, you must acquit... Only way to prove it's not his peter, is to release the photos of his real Johnson for comparison.. if he's admitting it was his Johnson, he needs to show up some real evidence that he's not the one who sent them.. I wouldn't doubt someone could have hacked his phone and sent out junk pictures to girls without his knowledge... Look what happened to Paige.. It’s on the prosecution to prove he did send it. Not the other way round.
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Also how come people acting like 16 years old is so morally reprehensible? In the majority of the world age of consent is 16 so why you all acting like he’s a big paedophile?
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CrimsonGear80 posted...
hulkhogan1 posted...You see no problem with ruining a potentially innocent person’s life over something that could have been done privately instead of having to announce it to the world? “If” is the key word. There’s nothing to base this off on other than the words of a random 16 year old girl who for all we know could just be creating this whole story just for attention. Everyone should be innocent until proven guilty, but that’s not going to stop people from automatically assuming he’s guilty without knowing any facts. Perception is reality in a lot of people’s minds, and that’s really unfortunate in a case like this where it will give someone a negative reputation.
Hulkhogan1: Then, now, forever!
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angleslam99 posted...
Dez316 posted...hulkhogan1 posted...show hidden quote(s) But if she did that people say she's just after attention and assume she's lying this way everyone knows she's telling the truth and *sarcasm* oh no she ruined the life of someone who is doing that to someone underage , such a shame #Pedolivesmatter *sarcasm*
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ssjmole posted...
angleslam99 posted...Dez316 posted...show hidden quote(s) It has been established long ago that she is not, by law, underage.
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sniperfox29 posted...
ssjmole posted...angleslam99 posted...show hidden quote(s) Depends where you are. But 16 is underage in a lot of places
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ssjmole posted...
sniperfox29 posted...ssjmole posted...show hidden quote(s) And in the place we're talking about, it's not.
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sniperfox29 posted...
ssjmole posted...sniperfox29 posted...show hidden quote(s) So that makes him a saint!
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sniperfox29 posted...
ssjmole posted...So that makes him a saint! If it's unsolicited it's still sexual harassment
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ssjmole posted...
sniperfox29 posted...ssjmole posted...show hidden quote(s) IF it is, then yes, but that is very difficult to prove. Do you just want him to be guilty or something? You seem upset that your original claims are wrong.
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sniperfox29 posted...
ssjmole posted...sniperfox29 posted...show hidden quote(s) I'm not upset. I just made my point. Why do you want him to get away with it if it's true? Think she had it coming or something? Jesus
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ssjmole posted...
sniperfox29 posted...ssjmole posted...show hidden quote(s) If it's true, no, he should be dealt with by law, not by morons on social media who think because they saw an episode of LA Law once they can be judge, jury and executioner on a case they do not have the full facts for. The only thing she has done wrong (if she is telling the truth) is not go to the police first instead of "Look at me, I've been humilated, I must go to social media and tell the world". That is wrong and will probably cost her even if she is telling the truth. But if she's not, or legally Ellsworth is innocent? I hope he sues the damn lot of you.
I love to watch you cry
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sniperfox29 posted...
The only thing she has done wrong (if she is telling the truth) is not go to the police first instead of "Look at me, I've been humilated, I must go to social media and tell the world". That is wrong and will probably cost her even if she is telling the truth. That was my point. He does that and typical smarks say stuff like sniperfox29 posted... I hope he sues the damn lot of you. And sniperfox29 posted... Look at me, I've been humilated And act like she's lying and after attention. So many cases online if a woman comes forth even to police not online , if people read the harass them and say they are lying and use #Metoo wrong to destroy it's orginal intention. By going social media route she's damaged him so even if he got away in court no one can say she's lying as she showed the evidence. That's clever and avoids a lot of pitfalls that exist in our culture. Sure hers isn't as big as the physical stuff that's happened but showing the evidence stops some or hopefully most of the online abuse from the cyber bullies , misogynists and fanboys that always hurt the victims more
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Crepes posted...
Also how come people acting like 16 years old is so morally reprehensible? In the majority of the world age of consent is 16 so why you all acting like he’s a big paedophile? Yes, in certain states, 16 is the age of consent, but would you really approve of your 16 year old daughter messing around with some 30 or 40 year old man? Or some man around that age rabdomly sending her nude pictures? Hell no. So don't even try this BS. IIRC there's a limit on the age of the other party as well. |
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ssjmole posted...
sniperfox29 posted...The only thing she has done wrong (if she is telling the truth) is not go to the police first instead of "Look at me, I've been humilated, I must go to social media and tell the world". That is wrong and will probably cost her even if she is telling the truth. And then she gets prosecuted for damaging an innocents mans reputation. Hardly clever is it?
I love to watch you cry
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BillyKidd posted...
pycho316 posted..."I have it on good authority" Reading comprehension is hard. Don't worry, there's help out there you can get.
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ssjmole posted...
And act like she's lying and after attention. So many cases online if a woman comes forth even to police not online , if people read the harass them and say they are lying and use #Metoo wrong to destroy it's orginal intention. By going social media route she's damaged him so even if he got away in court no one can say she's lying as she showed the evidence. That's clever and avoids a lot of pitfalls that exist in our culture. Sure hers isn't as big as the physical stuff that's happened but showing the evidence stops some or hopefully most of the online abuse from the cyber bullies , misogynists and fanboys that always hurt the victims more But if he's innocent, he's been done far more wrong than sending a nude picture to a 16-year-old. And knowing that people can get away with damaging someone like that, it'll happen more and more often, because people. Think about the shit that doesn't add up. -She refuses to go to police because "WTF are police gonna do?" -Ellsworth is carelessly giving away his nudies like that, and they haven't been leaked yet beforehand? -Wrestlers message her like she's an old friend. RVD messages her all the time. Sabu hits on her too, wtf? Why her? There's much more to this story that we unfortunately won't find out. |
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sniperfox29 posted...
ssjmole posted...sniperfox29 posted...show hidden quote(s) The age of consent does not apply to images and porn iirc whether they are of people under 18 or being sent to them.
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RonWeassly posted...Crepes posted...
Also how come people acting like 16 years old is so morally reprehensible? In the majority of the world age of consent is 16 so why you all acting like he’s a big paedophile?
Yes, in certain states, 16 is the age of consent, but would you really approve of your 16 year old daughter messing around with some 30 or 40 year old man? Or some man around that age rabdomly sending her nude pictures? Hell no. So don't even try this BS. IIRC there's a limit on the age of the other party as well.
Which is what?https://imgur.com/bbzZKws
Praxis Makes Perfectpycho316 posted...BillyKidd posted...
pycho316 posted...
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what are you babbling about? She has posted some of the pics on her twitter and gave them to one of the ragsheets that also posted them.
Reading comprehension is hard. Don't worry, there's help out there you can get.
Maybe it's time for you to lrn2reedTho I walk through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil. For I'm the meanest mofo in the whole f'n valley
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