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Can Ronda Rousey beat CM Punk in a UFC fight? - Results (262 votes)
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No.
Maybe if it was her first fight and Punk completely underestimated her, if she got a lucky takedown she could make him tap. but Punk is a man, Ronda is a woman, and once someone noticed "Hey she can't do shit apart from throws and Armbars, just ignore that and punch her" she crumbled like a pie someone sat on. I don't think there is any male MMA fighter in the UFC who couldn't beat Ronda.
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Maze_ posted...
No. what a horrible argument... especially after seeing how horrible a fighter punk is. |
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CloneTheHero posted...
shes a professional so no sh**? punk has no martial arts background to speak of. this is like asking... can the chick whos been playing guitar her whole life do a better solo than the dude who just picked up the guitar? Video games and physical fighting/sport are not the same thing dude. Serena Williams is the greatest female tennis player of all time but pretty much any world class male player can beat her easily. Biology plays favorites unfortunately. truffleshuffles posted... Maze_ posted...No. ... You do know you're talking about literal fighting here? Not like... Singing or drawing or debating? Punching each other in the face? Snapping arms? Tackles and takedowns? And you think sex is a horrible argument?
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Wow the poll shows there is a lot of beta cucks in this forum. Keep drinking the Hollywood cool-aid.
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Maze_ posted...
CloneTheHero posted...shes a professional so no sh**? punk has no martial arts background to speak of. this is like asking... can the chick whos been playing guitar her whole life do a better solo than the dude who just picked up the guitar? Yes, thinking that a man is automatically going to win in a fight against a women just because he is a man is a horrible argument (especially talking about the horrible horrible "fighter" that is cum punk). This isn't 1950 where women are delicate little flowers that get knocked over by the wind you chauvinist pig.
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Maze_ posted...
CloneTheHero posted...shes a professional so no sh**? punk has no martial arts background to speak of. this is like asking... can the chick whos been playing guitar her whole life do a better solo than the dude who just picked up the guitar? How can you watch Punk's fight and think he wouldn't get destroyed by Rousey, Holly or Cyborg? Doubt Rousey if you will but I'll call you crazy if you think he could actually beat Holm or Cyborg. We're not talking Conor vs. Rousey but Punk vs. Rousey. Punk is not a fighter and will get his ass beat by any tough female who knows her stuff and has been fighting at a professional level.
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CloneTheHero posted...
shes a professional so no sh**? punk has no martial arts background to speak of. this is like asking... can the chick whos been playing guitar her whole life do a better solo than the dude who just picked up the guitar? Punk was taking Martial Arts before he was in WWE.
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Punk would beat the holy hell out of Rousey in any fight, but then her husband would likely kill him.
We've already established she was a paper champion. |
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Saxon posted...
Punk would beat the holy hell out of Rousey in any fight, but then her husband would likely kill him. Forget about Rousey. Do some of you guys really think he'd be able to knock out Holm or Cyborg? Nunez? Hell no.
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truffleshuffles posted...
I never said that. I said any man in the UFC would beat Ronda Rousey in a UFC fight. RonWeassly posted...
Because Ronda is 134 pounds and 5'5 and female. Punk is 169 pounds (after cutting back from 190), 6'2 and male. I'm not even sure Ronda could toss Punk even if he wasn't fighting back and was solely blocking her. And then Rousey can't take punches from female fighters but you think she could take them from Punk? And return in kind? Come on dude. You're confusing equality in law, rights, oppotunity and social respect with literal "there's no difference in biology!" that's insane.
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RonWeassly posted...
Maze_ posted...CloneTheHero posted...show hidden quote(s) How can people just throw important factors in a fight like reach, height, weight, and strength away? Technique is great, but it's not everything. If it was, a well-trained 90-pound woman could destroy Braun Stroman or Brock Lesnar. Not the case.
Less is more.
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Rousey was an intermediate judo master and they are the absolute worst fighters on the planet that don't match up well against any other style.
In other words, she was fundamentally flawed to begin with. It would be like entering MMA as a YOGA practitioner.
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How can people just throw important factors in a fight like reach, height, weight, and strength away? Technique is great, but it's not everything. If it was, a well-trained 90-pound woman could destroy Braun Stroman. Not the case. CM Punk is not Braun Strowman. I'm confident most really good female fighhrers can take him easily. The guy is paper and has no hands. He can't fight and anything he'd do would get reversed instantly. You can't compare a massive giant to Punk. Now that's ridiculous. You're confusing equality in law, rights, oppotunity and social respect with literal "there's no difference in biology!" that's insane. Of course there's difference in Biology, but some men just aren't fighters. Punk is not athletic and he can't fight. Doubt Rousey? Fine. I don't care. You're never convincing me that weak unathletic skinny fat guy can actually hold his own against Nunez and Cyborg. A 90 pound woman vs. Braun Strowman? No duh he'll beat that woman up. But a Cyborg and Nunez against Punk? Don't even try it. You know you're bullshitting and trolling with that one. Rousey and Tate is debateable. The others? Hell no. Not buying it.
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Maze_ posted...
Serena Williams is greatest female tennis player of all time but pretty much any world class male player can beat her easily. Punk is a McDojo tier fighter, not world class in any regard. Maze_ posted... but Punk is a man, Ronda is a woman, and once someone noticed "Hey she can't do shit apart from throws and Armbars, just ignore that and punch her" she crumbled like a pie someone sat on. Those were people who actually knew how to throw a punch.
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And then Rousey can't take punches from female fighters but you think she could take them from Punk? And return in kind? Cut the bullshit. Punk can't punch. Other female fighters hit harder than him. You can't compare strikes from tougher opponents to Punk's weakass hits. |
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Rousey's gotta get the man down first otherwise she has no chance against a stand up fighter.
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RonWeassly posted...
I'm confident most really good female fighhrers can take him easily. Come on dude, seriously? Most pro female fighters couldn't even stand nose to nose with him and he outweighs them by like 35 pounds... A lot of pro-female fighters couldn't even beat another female fighter who weighed 35 pounds more than them. RonWeassly posted...
I think that's the problem, you never can be convinced so it's like a religious belief you won't question. RonWeassly posted...
I don't even think Cyborg could beat any male UFC fighter of equal weight. Let alone heavier than her. I'd grant you that I think Cyborg could slam CM Punk even if he resisted (but wasn't striking back) unlike Rousey, but in a legit fight? Come on dude. You letting your desire for equality blind you. You're not being progressive you're just denying basic human anatomy. Taller, stronger, faster, heavier, more reach etc is physically superior in a fight or physical sport and as such pro-male athletes have pro-female athletes beat. Even in darts and 10 pin bowling pro-men still are better.
When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner.
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@Maze_
You letting your desire for equality blind you. You're not being progressive you're just denying basic human anatomy. Taller, stronger, faster, heavier, more reach etc is physically superior in a fight or physical sport and as such pro-male athletes have pro-female athletes beat. No one is saying that Nunez and Cyborg wouldn't get messed up by a top rank fighter like Conor or Kabib. This is strictly CM Punk only. Punk is not a fighter. He would get messed up by any woman who's good. That's how bad he is. Layla Ali would fuck up his face and so would any woman that's frest at fighting. He's terrible. Now, if we were talking Conor vs. Nunez or Cyborg or Cormier vs. Rousey, yes you're right. But Punk is the exception. He's too weak. He's not a pro athlete. He used his fame to get to UFC. So cut the bullshit.
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Maze_ posted...
I don't even think Cyborg could beat any male UFC fighter of equal weight. Probably not, but Punk is not really a UFC fighter. He got dominated by a guy who isn't even UFC material himself. Without name recognition Punk would've never appeared on any combat PPV. His instincts and reactions are terrible, he's slow, he can't throw hits, he can't lock submissions, he has no defense, he has no stamina. The only thing he's not godawful at is takedowns, but you really don't want someone like Rousey or Tate on the ground anyway.
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Maze_ posted...
Punching each other in the face? I've seen Ronda do all of that against world class female MMA fighters. Haven't seen Phil do any of that against two rookies. ???
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What was the name of that guy in the Street Fighter video game universe that is completely useless and is only there to dare the player to try using him in a match?
That's like Ronda Rousey in real life.
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Well it depends, who does the PWB currently hate more?
Punk for abandoning us? Or Ronda for...... uhhhh. being a woman I guess? I forget, why do we hate Ronda again? Anyway, irrelevant, who do we hate more right now? Might want to throw Roman Reigns into this mix too.
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No, it's not just "Conor or Cormier" any UFC male fighter would wreck their shit. Let alone ones who weigh more than them.
Punk included. Sure some low ranked MMA fighters jobbing somewhere? Yeah. Sure maybe some good male fighters who weigh less than them? Probably not, but maybe. But any male fighter in the UFC could take Nunez and she would be one of the first to admit it. Remember Fallon Fox? Remember how every woman in the UFC who was asked to comment (including Ronda Rousey) refused to fight her because it would be ridiculously unfair. You can't just will away bone structure and size and reach. They don't stop existing because you hate CM Punk and want to promote women. That way madness lies. Promote women by being cool with Nunez beating women up.
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He mechanically can't throw a proper punch to save his life.
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The hate for Ronda probably stems from the fact she turned tail and ran away from UFC once she got exposed rather than sticking with it until they carried her out on her shield like a Gladiator.
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Lawn_Dart posted...
https://i.gyazo.com/b554b85ebebdc32dd763d456242d8d7f.gif Niether can Ronda   https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BlindBlindIndianskimmer-mobile.mp4 Talk about the resistable force meeting the movable object. But Punk is taller, heavier, stronger and can throw a punch without literally hitting himself in the face.
When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner.
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Maze_ posted...
Punk is taller, heavier, stronger and can throw a punch without literally hitting himself in the face. Not everyone is comfortable with facts.
Less is more.
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Maze_ posted...
No, it's not just "Conor or Cormier" any UFC male fighter would wreck their shit. Let alone ones who weigh more than them. Dude, don't go twisting my words. When I mention Cormier and Conor, I obviously mean every male pro fighter in the UFC who worked their asses off to get there without fame. Punk not included because he's not a pro fighter. Biology means a lot but Punk is not a fighter. He's weak. Him specifically. I'm not a Punk hater. I wanted him to win, but he's no good to the point where any female who is just like a Cyborg or a Nunez will beat him up. Punk is a low ranked MMA jobber. He is a can himself. This topic is ridiculous. Comparing Punk to Braun Strowman? Just stop. People, ignore this fool. He just doesn't get it.
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RonWeassly posted...
He literally is a pro-fighter. His profression is that he fights people, he's paid (a lot) to do that.
And he would still beat Ronda Rousey. Pretty easily. Ronda doesn't even want to fight a transgender woman who is smaller than Punk and takes estrogen. How much you like or dislike Punk and how much you want human biology to be the same because everyone should be treated the same is irrelevant. Comparing Punk to Braun Strowman? Just stop. People, ignore this fool. He just doesn't get it. I never did that though
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CM Punk's natural weight is at least 200 pounds. He looks skinny at 170. Even if he is a "bad fighter", he is still a big guy. Ronda Rousey is like 5 feet 4, 130 pounds lol.
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Maze_ posted...
RonWeassly posted... He's a pro fighter on paper only. He's not a real pro fighter. Quit twisting words just to fit your narrative. And I never said I wanted everyone to be treated the same or have their biology be the same. Punk is weak. Biology will only take him so far. Everyone is built differently. Not every man has a fighting instinct or a fighting chance against a woman who is skilled and strong herself. Especially someone like Punk. He is the exception. Now, argue Ronda all you want. Fine. You can have that argument. Infact, go to Sherdog forums and post this exact argument against people there. But Punk has no chance in Hell against a woman who's really good and isn't super short like Holm, Cyborg or Nunez. That's it. End of discussion. Go to Sherdog forums. |
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So the argument is no matter how skilled the female fighter is and how shitty the male fighter is the male fighter will always win because he is bigger?
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If Rousey can get you off your feet and keep you there then she might have chance.
We just don't think she could do it good enough or long enough to choke even the average man out. |
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pycho316 posted...
Well it depends, who does the PWB currently hate more? Why are you acting like this is a pwb thing? Look outside this board, the majority of UFC fans never liked punk to begin with so they'd probably say Ronda too. Heck you even have punk fans saying he's ass, he probably would lose to Ronda, but even if he could be her he's not beating top females in the game.
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Rousey would need to draw upon extraordinary strength.
For example, some dude breaks in her house and wants that ass...then she might fight like a wild woman and win.
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Yes, she was an Olympic medalist in Judo.
Punk is an amateur at best in BJJ. Both of them are weak in striking but there's no doubt she could take him down and take the arm
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Ronda is 135
Punk is 170 Yeah. Punk fights like a strawweight if not worse. Ronda wins.
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Probably, punk isn't cut out for fighting. That string bean man was banging the hell out of him in the octagon.
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Punk would win. It doesn't matter how skilled a female is, they can't negate the difference in size and power. No female mma fighter would beat any semi athletic male above 160lbs.
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truffleshuffles posted...
So the argument is no matter how skilled the female fighter is and how shitty the male fighter is the male fighter will always win because he is bigger? Yup and that's the truth. |
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I4NRulez posted...
Yes, she was an Olympic medalist in Judo.  Amateur? Surely you jest. How could Rousey hope to stand against Punk's elite BJJ?
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truffleshuffles posted...
So the argument is no matter how skilled the female fighter is and how shitty the male fighter is the male fighter will always win because he is bigger? He would win the majority of the time, yes, but not always. There would be cases where a really strong/skilled woman could beat a guy of similar size and worse skill.
Less is more.
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Lawn_Dart posted...
I4NRulez posted...Yes, she was an Olympic medalist in Judo. XD
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Look, Punk really sucked in UFC and shows he cannot fight. But he did eat some shots to the face and didn't go down. Plus he's a 6"1 man vs a 5"5 woman, size and nature matters here.
One lucky punch could take down Rousey and with his superior reach, he might land one. Men are simply by nature superior (read biologically) , even years of training won't eliminate the difference. The difference is clear in any other sport, Serena amd Venus lost from a male tennis player outside top 200. Women football (soccer) world cup winners got beat 5-2 (or something similar) from under-15 boys.
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truffleshuffles posted...
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karlaemeterio posted...
It doesn't matter how skilled a female is, they can't negate the difference in size and power. No female mma fighter would beat any semi athletic male above 160lbs. This is true. However Punk isn't that and I do believe Ronda would win.
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As a 4 year wrestler in high school I saw 2 girls win matches against guys. I don't see why the same couldn't apply to mma. It would be a rare occasion but possible.Currently playing: God of War (ps4) God of War (ps2) State of Decay 2 (xbone) Monster Hunter World (xbone) H1Z1 (ps4)i think it would be a close fighti am certainly on the side of the women are weaker than men and the people making that argument. biology cannot be refuted here. and anyone that has taken martial arts in real life can tell you this is a very real thing.
that said, the current size and weight of punk is i think within Rondas range to be able to overcome if she can get him in some kind of submission.
if she doesn't try and spar with him, and instead tries to get him in some kind of lock or hold, i think she can win.
and punk didn't look like a good fighter out there either which plays into Rondas advantage. really it's a matter of if she tries to get him in a good submission or not. if she does, i think she can win, if she doesn't, all punk has to do is hit her once or twice really good.SauI_Goodman posted...As a 4 year wrestler in high school I saw 2 girls win matches against guys. I don't see why the same couldn't apply to mma. It would be a rare occasion but possible.
Because wrestling doesn't involve getting punched in the face perhaps? Ronda has even worse stand up than Punk. And as god awful as Punk is, one punch would still knock Ronda out cold. Punk is also simply too large for Ronda to just grab and throw down.karlaemeterio posted...SauI_Goodman posted...
As a 4 year wrestler in high school I saw 2 girls win matches against guys. I don't see why the same couldn't apply to mma. It would be a rare occasion but possible.
Because wrestling doesn't involve getting punched in the face perhaps?
Slams can be worse than punches. Cm Punk couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.Currently playing: God of War (ps4) God of War (ps2) State of Decay 2 (xbone) Monster Hunter World (xbone) H1Z1 (ps4)SauI_Goodman posted...karlaemeterio posted...
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Because wrestling doesn't involve getting punched in the face perhaps?
Slams can be worse than punches. Cm Punk couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
Neither could Rousey. And she wouldn't be able to slam/throw Punk either as he could simply power out of them even if she could get close.Do you guys think Ronda could legit beat Nia Jax?The 17th King of the State of KI guarantee a trained man or woman will beat the holy shit out of any untrained man ir woman.
Punk is trained so maybe would win but if the fight ever happened its lose lose for him. But realistically I think she probably could beat him.
Remember in the jackass movie where dude was getting beat by that girl and said he was taking it easy on her but it was clear he was trying and just getting his was whooped
And lets not forget awesome kong. Women can beat a man if she is trained to do so.*eats noodles*NemarPott posted...I guarantee a trained man or woman will beat the holy shit out of any untrained man ir woman.
Punk is trained so maybe would win but if the fight ever happened its lose lose for him. But realistically I think she probably could beat him.
Remember in the jackass movie where dude was getting beat by that girl and said he was taking it easy on her but it was clear he was trying and just getting his was whooped
And lets not forget awesome kong. Women can beat a man if she is trained to do so.
please answer the below question buddy.
Nicodimus posted...How can people just throw important factors in a fight like reach, height, weight, and strength away? Technique is great, but it's not everything. If it was, a well-trained 90-pound woman could destroy Braun Stroman or Brock Lesnar. Not the case.
NemarPott posted...I guarantee a trained man or woman will beat the holy shit out of any untrained man ir woman.
Punk is trained so maybe would win but if the fight ever happened its lose lose for him. But realistically I think she probably could beat him.
Remember in the jackass movie where dude was getting beat by that girl and said he was taking it easy on her but it was clear he was trying and just getting his was whooped
And lets not forget awesome kong. Women can beat a man if she is trained to do so.
Punk is proof that even if you train for 3 year with the best facilities you can still be worthles. Fitness, athleticism, power, size are also important factors, moreso than training.Strength matters
No female fighter is strong enough to immobilize CM Punk in any kind of hold, let alone an actual 200+lb athlete. There's a reason men and women don't fight each other competitively. It's not discrimination(edited 3 days ago)Ronda Rousey's fighting skills can't be discredited. Look at her accomplishments even before becoming an MMA fighter in Strikeforce and then in UFC.- She began her training in Judo at the age of 11, she trained with her mother who herself was a Judo practitioner, her mother was the first American to win the World Judo Championship in 1984.
- Gold Medal (Pan American Championships 2004)
- Gold Medal (Pan American Championships 2005)
- Silver Medal (Pan American Championship 2006)
- Bronze Medal (2008 Beijing Olympic Games)
- Silver Medal (World Championship 2007)
- Gold Medal (Pan American Games 2007)
- Bronze Medal (Pan American Championship 2007)
- Trained by Ryron Graice and Rener Gracie of Gracie Academy as well as BJ Penn in the art of Jiu Jitsu.
- Then after becoming an MMA fighter, she had an MMA record of 12-2, she won her most fights with a 1st round armbar submission. She had also previously won her 3 amateur fights with 1st round armbar submissions.
If you glance at her accomplishments on her wikipedia page (which is a long list), then you will realize that none of her accomplishments were tailored by Dana White, she accomplished all of it on her own, before and after joining UFC.
And now look at Punk's fighting credentials.- Zero real fighting skills.
- Can't even throw a punch properly.
- Does ballet dance while performing a kick.
- Suppose to have some manner of ground game, exposed as having none.
- MMA record of 0-2.
Gender becomes irrelevant when we are pitting sheer skill and experience against sheer lack of skills and inexperience. The argument that things like strength and weight matter, that matters only if both the combatants are skilled fighters with relatively matching skill sets and experience. Like I said before, if we are pitting sheer skill and experience against sheer lack of skill and inexperience, then the skill and experience advantage outweighs the strength and size advantage by a huge margin.
Conclusion: Ronda Rousey is a professional fighter of the elite level, Punk has absolutely no chance against her, even as a fluke.Axiom ^^Ransom_Stark posted...Gender becomes irrelevant when we are pitting sheer skill and experience against sheer lack of skills and inexperience
wrong.
the only way for someone like Ronda to beat a bigger person is to be far more careful and she has far less room for error.
i think Ronda can win this, but it won't be a cake walk. she doesn't have a lot of room for error. Punk isn't SO much bigger that it's insurmountable, but she has a disadvantage going in. granted if she is as smart at fighting as her list of accomplishments indicates, she should be well aware of how to approach fighting a bigger person and should be able to overcome that. but her disadvantage is all punk has to do is hit once or twice really good.
LaManoNeraII posted...Strength matters
No female fighter is strong enough to immobilize CM Punk in any kind of hold, let alone an actual 200+lb athlete. There's a reason men and women don't fight each other competitively. It's not discrimination
you know nothing about holds. every person has the same weak points. everyone's arm breaks the same way.And Ronda or any female MMA fighter is not strong enough to get a 200lb male fighter into those holds. It’s ridiculous to even suggest it. Essentially you’re saying MMA should be mixed gender, which is horrifying(edited 3 days ago)LaManoNeraII posted...And Ronda or any female MMA fighter is not strong enough to get a 200lb male fighter into those holds. It’s ridiculous to even suggest it. Essentially you’re saying MMA should be mixed gender, which is horrifying
BJJ isn't about strength. It's often about leverage and momentum. I've rolled with guys who had 100 lbs on me and made them tap. Locking in a triangle requires hardly any strength because it's about how I position myself. Similarly, when I first started out I tapped out to a 13 year old (I was 22)."Not only is Andre way smarter than you, he's also way smarter than you think you are." - SaikyoStyle^ Are you sure that's something you wanna admit on a forum with less than mature people?I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down...This video proves that a female with superior skills will beat a guy with lesser skills with similar weight and size.
In this video, the guy has far superior stance, balance and striking than CM Punk and the girl is not even half as good as Ronda Rousey, once again the guy and girl has similar weight and strength, but the girl is still much more skilled than the guy. This once again proves that gender is irrelevant when it comes to skill.
This video proves that strength advantage doesn't matter either, superior skill beats strength advantage. Many of these guys in this video were stronger than Miesha Tate.
Gender is irrelevant, as proven in the video below, a US Marine tapped out to a Jiu Jitsu girl in a Jiu Jitsu match.
Lastly, @AndreLeGeant posted earlier that BJJ isn't about strength but about leverage and momentum, below is a perfect example of it. A Jr high school girl defeated a much stronger man than herself in a Jiu Jitsu match.
Axiom ^^Ransom_Stark posted...Gender is irrelevant, as pro
uhuhWhen the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner.
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PSN Username: PyramidHead88Ransom_Stark posted...Gender is irrelevant,
well it's not. the sexes are quite different and you cannot just blanket apply the same tactics to fights. a girl will need to change up how she fights a man that is 100 lbs bigger than her.
that said your post otherwise proves where Ronda should have a big advantage, but she still needs to be more careful than usual
LaManoNeraII posted...Essentially you’re saying MMA should be mixed gender, which is horrifying
no one is saying that. we're saying Ronda could win, but at least for me anyway i am saying she has far less room for error.
AndreLeGeant posted...LaManoNeraII posted...
And Ronda or any female MMA fighter is not strong enough to get a 200lb male fighter into those holds. It’s ridiculous to even suggest it. Essentially you’re saying MMA should be mixed gender, which is horrifying
BJJ isn't about strength. It's often about leverage and momentum. I've rolled with guys who had 100 lbs on me and made them tap. Locking in a triangle requires hardly any strength because it's about how I position myself. Similarly, when I first started out I tapped out to a 13 year old (I was 22).
basically. you only really need to use just enough force. most locks, like the common wrist lock don't require a whole lot of muscle to put someone on the ground.
but as you are aware, you know damn well you have to approach people 100lbs bigger than you a bit differently, there is a lot less room for error, and sometimes you need to do something more before applying a hold.Normally I’d say no
But punk is awful and Ronda is an Olympian and was a dominant champion. She’s 10 Times the martial artist he is using the fighting style that renders size irrelevant the most
I’d say maybe
I’ve seen way bigger size differences. I’ve seen small people dominate bigger ones.
I think this could happen.Because MANpukumaru is ALL WOMAN!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8Dis(edited 2 days ago)Saxon posted...What was the name of that guy in the Street Fighter video game universe that is completely useless and is only there to dare the player to try using him in a match?
That's like Ronda Rousey in real life.
Dan, and I have used him (and won) against the computer opponents.Toho's Godzilla Will Live Forever!
3DS FC: 3668-7961-6586EricDent1 posted...Saxon posted...
What was the name of that guy in the Street Fighter video game universe that is completely useless and is only there to dare the player to try using him in a match?
That's like Ronda Rousey in real life.
Dan, and I have used him (and won) against the computer opponents.
I made a guy rage quit using Dan. He must have been really bad cause I suck with the shotos and just picked him to mess around. My main is Gief.Currently playing: God of War (ps4) God of War (ps2) State of Decay 2 (xbone) Monster Hunter World (xbone) H1Z1 (ps4)Feminism is deadly to basic human reasoning.My Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon Review:
gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/238776-bloodstained-curse-of-the-moon/reviews/166409One of the only people with a worse striking game than Rousey is CM Punk. She would absolutely destroy him even if he got over the whole 'I'm a guy and don't want to punch a girl' thing.
Ronda has had to train against men because female sparring partners weren't good enough.Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest
http://www.twitch.tv/ultimaterializerx ; https://imgur.com/dsnL40n(edited 2 days ago)UltimaterializerX posted...One of the only people with a worse striking game than Rousey is CM Punk. She would absolutely destroy him even if he got over the whole 'I'm a guy and don't want to punch a girl' thing.
Ronda has had to train against men because female sparring partners weren't good enough.
Ronda's strengths are Judo and BJJ, her striking isn't particularly bad, it's just not on the level of someone like Holly Holm or Amanda Nunes.Axiom ^^DarkSymbiote posted...I'm both scared of women and mad that they won't sleep with me. Tearing them down anonymously online is my unhealthy way of dealing with it.
Interesting.Only idoits can't spell.UltimaterializerX posted...Ronda has had to train against men because female sparring partners weren't good enough.
Wow! She's so good that she trains against men...and still loses against other women. Hmmm. Something doesn't add up there.Less is more.Nicodimus posted...UltimaterializerX posted...
Ronda has had to train against men because female sparring partners weren't good enough.
Wow! She's so good that she trains against men...and still loses against other women. Hmmm. Something doesn't add up there.
The two women who defeated Ronda Rousey were also trained by men, sparred with men.
It adds up alright.Axiom ^^Maze_ posted...Serena Williams is the greatest female tennis player of all time but pretty much any world class male player can beat her easily.
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