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I remember reading Punk having heat with Elijah Burke back in the ECW days. And after seeing Punk’s “standup,” I’m sure the former amateur boxer with 100 or so fights would’ve knocked him out clean. Apparently his only loss was a DQ. That’s 100 or so more fights than CM Punk has ever been in.
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jokrayz posted...
Angle. wrestling=/=MMA he held his own against sonaxscott posted... I remember reading Punk having heat with Elijah Burke back in the ECW days. And after seeing Punk’s “standup,” I’m sure the former amateur boxer with 100 or so fights would’ve knocked him out clean. Apparently his only loss was a DQ. That’s 100 or so more fights than CM Punk has ever been in. he lost to a boxer i punk's 2nd MMA fight, it went by decision that boxer however had decent ground and pound and TD defense. PUnk will just take him down and submit him |
Shinsuke Nakamura might be able too. He had a small run in MMA and ended with a 3-1-1 record, which is obviously more impressive than Punk's 0-2 record. I don't think any of the people he beat were major names in the sport, but they were still probably better mixed martial artists than Punk ended up being.
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Shinsuke Nakamura might be able too. He had a small run in MMA and ended with a 3-1-1 record, which is obviously more impressive than Punk's 0-2 record. I don't think any of the people he beat were major names in the sport, but they were still probably better mixed martial artists than Punk ended up being. Punk fought in the highest promotion of MMA (UFC). I don't know the credibility is on other smaller promotions 4 yrs of MMA training, i'm sure he can beat up most of the WWE roster that isn't Lesnar, Lashley, and Del Rio |
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geno_16 posted...Shinsuke Nakamura might be able too. He had a small run in MMA and ended with a 3-1-1 record, which is obviously more impressive than Punk's 0-2 record. I don't think any of the people he beat were major names in the sport, but they were still probably better mixed martial artists than Punk ended up being. Are you trolling? We all know that he fought in the UFC so that Dana could make extra cash. We all know Punk proved he has zero business in UFC and twice he was a fucking joke. We all know he has no athleticism, power, fitness, technique. Got melted 1st time by a real fighter. Got literally tickled second time by a mediocre fighter even after years of training with the best facilities. Yep this is a joke topic. |
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I would have said he would beat most people until I saw his 2nd fight but now I think most young athletic guys could stomp him. I know Martial arts and basically everything he did was way off. Actually worse than how I would expect an untrained person to fight. No footwork, no defense, throwing himself off-balance with every punch. Really just shockingly bad.
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Punk is not a fighter.
He is at the lowest tier of natural athletism and martial arts ability while also being old and carrying many injuries. The only thing he has going for him is some grit but he has no fighting instinct. Many guys on the roster would beat him up through sheer size or athletism nevermind the ones with training. Even The Miz has a good shot. Despite four years of training he has not grasped any of the basics. He is still the same guy who was saved from a beating by Teddy Hart.
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Outside of Lesnar, Lashly and Del Rio can any wrestler beat Cm Punk in a fight?
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Outside of Lesnar, Lashly and Del Rio can any wrestler beat Cm Punk in a fight? most of those can't since they never had been in a fight or have any fight training CM punk may be an amateur but he had sometraining and has been in 2 fights |
majin nemesis posted...
CM punk may be an amateur but he had sometraining and has been in 2 fights Doesn't really mean much when you can't tell that's even the case. For all we know, his coach is a hack and was merely collecting paychecks for taking on a high-profile client. Punk's weak af and looked like he couldn't even convincingly beat your average joe.
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Punk is not a fighter. Teddy Hart vs. CM Punk in a shoot. Book it Joey! Spring Break 3!
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Outside of Lesnar, Lashly and Del Rio can any wrestler beat Cm Punk in a fight? Winner lmao
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majin nemesis posted...CM punk may be an amateur but he had sometraining and has been in 2 fights having fightning experience and having some training is better then not having anything and a lot of people in the wwe never have been in a fight while cm punk has some he has an advantage they don't have also your average joe would probably quit after being punched in the face llennroc posted... Not everyone who trains at something for 4 years becomes good at it. Punk isn’t a good fighter 4 years of training is still better then no training |
Manosphere1 posted...
anyone? Haku (Meng), even at 59 years old right now, figuratively and literally eats Punk alive if a real fight between current Haku and CM Punk were to go down. The fight will be about 3 minutes long.... with Punk getting NO offense.... and Haku destroying him for 3 minutes before Haku gets distracted by a bunch of cops which Haku then proceeds to fight (which gives someone else a chance to drag Punk's body away from the area).
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Gallagher would kill Punk. Gallagher is an excellent MMA fighter. Damn shame WWE treats him like a joke. Anyway, this is an example of what he would do to Punk: llennroc posted... Not everyone who trains at something for 4 years becomes good at it. Punk isn’t a good fighter ^THIS.
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Manosphere1 posted...
jokrayz posted...Angle. He only lasted in that fight because his opponent chose not to finish him. He didnt last because of any skill of his own.
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Gallagher is in the wrong profession. I think he'd have more success in MMA. Especially with the little bit of name value. I could see him landing and winning fights in Bellator and UFC.
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geno_16 posted...Shinsuke Nakamura might be able too. He had a small run in MMA and ended with a 3-1-1 record, which is obviously more impressive than Punk's 0-2 record. I don't think any of the people he beat were major names in the sport, but they were still probably better mixed martial artists than Punk ended up being. This is either a joke thread or you're really this clueless He didn't earn his way to UFC, he fought there because he was a celeb. He didn't last against Mike Jackson, Mike Jackson purposely dragged the fight out to 3 rounds. |
To be honest. Most of the roster.
Not even being disrespectful or anything..its easier to name the guys he could beat Id say he could take Tyler Breeze, Finn Balor, Tye Dillinger guys like that with no real fighting experience (as far as I know who are around his size or smaller)
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Manosphere1 posted...
geno_16 posted...Shinsuke Nakamura might be able too. He had a small run in MMA and ended with a 3-1-1 record, which is obviously more impressive than Punk's 0-2 record. I don't think any of the people he beat were major names in the sport, but they were still probably better mixed martial artists than Punk ended up being. Punk fought a guy who was waaaaaaaaay better than him (Gall, who Punk had no business fighting with his limited experience), and basically a beginner with striking experience (Jackson). Punk got beat badly in both fights. Shinsuke beat Alexy Ignashov with a choke. At the time they fought he a had really good ranking as a kickboxer in K1 - he only had 2-3 MMA fights. He was also way bigger than Shinsuke. He'd smoke Punk.
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El Marsh posted...Outside of Lesnar, Lashly and Del Rio can any wrestler beat Cm Punk in a fight?
Roman Reigns
Braun Strowman
Matt Hardy
Apollo Crews
Kalisto
Dean Ambrose
Curt Hawkins
Curtis Axel
Heath Slater
Rhyno
Scott Dawson
Dash Wilder
Finn Balor
Goldust
Seth Rollins
Titus O’Neill
Bray Wyatt
Big Show
Elias
Bo Dallas
Dolph Ziggler
Jinder Mahal
Bobby Roode
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Drew McIntyre
Baron Corbin
Chad Gable
Mojo Rawley
Zack Ryder
The Ascension
Breezango
Mike Kanellis
AOP
No Way Jose
Kane
Jason Jordan
John Cena
AJ Styles
Jeff Hardy
Samoa Joe
Aiden English
Big E
Kofi Kingston
Xavier Woods
Randy Orton
Sheamus
Cesaro
Rowan
Harper
Epico
Primo
Tye Dillinger
Dolph Ziggler
Shinsuke Nakamura
James Ellsworth
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
Rusev
Konnor
Viktor
Sin Cara
The Miz
Daniel Bryan
Big Cass
Andrade “Cien” Almas
Luke Gallows
Karl Anderson
R-Truth
Cesaro
Sheamus
Killian Dain
Eric Young
Alexander Wolfe
Akira Tozawa
Ariya Daivari
The Brian Kendrick
Cedric Alexander
Drew Gulak
Gran Metalik
Jack Gallagher
Lince Dorado
Mustafa Ali
Noam Dar
Oney Lorcan
Rich Swann
TJP
Tony Nese
Hideo Itami
Neville
Kalisto
Mark Andrews
I agree with every one of these.
Also, lol at thinking 4 years is enough time to prepare for UFC.Slayer>Megadeth>Amon Amarth>Alice in Chains>Every other Metal band>Other Genres of music>A bagpipe full of cats>>>>Country musicmajin nemesis posted...Krow_Incarnate posted...
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Doesn't really mean much when you can't tell that's even the case. For all we know, his coach is a hack and was merely collecting paychecks for taking on a high-profile client.
Punk's weak af and looked like he couldn't even convincingly beat your average joe.
having fightning experience and having some training is better then not having anything and a lot of people in the wwe never have been in a fight while cm punk has some he has an advantage they don't have
also your average joe would probably quit after being punched in the face
llennroc posted...Not everyone who trains at something for 4 years becomes good at it. Punk isn’t a good fighter
4 years of training is still better then no training
Mike Jackson says otherwise. Dude barely had any training.KingHova045 posted...No chance in hell that fool trained for 4 years. That would like having a kid take 4 years of English class, and not be able to read & write. To answer your question, most if not all.
Not if you have 0 natural athletic ability and you are on cards with guys who have been training their whole life in either MMA or some other form of contact sport.
It's more like a kid who takes 4 years of English but his first language is Chinese, he learns some basic words and phrases but cant write a full paragraph and has trouble reading more than basic English. Then participates in a spelling bee against national spelling champions.Noob killahKainFourteh posted...Considering punk can't fight for shit you'd have a harder time finding someone who can't take him.
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Considering punk can't fight for shit you'd have a harder time finding someone who can't take him.
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I'd even reckon The Miz could beat the fuck out of Punk
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I'd even reckon The Miz could beat the fuck out of Punk
He might be a good MMA fighter. I mean, he's gotta be good at something.
Can Lio Rush take Punk? Obviously Lio is athletic af but that sizeProbably yes. There are a lot of wrestlers, if CM Punk was such a good fighter that only three other wrestlers could beat him, he’d be doing a lot better in MMA.You look EXTREMELY immature when you announce that you're about to ignore someone. No one cares, including the person about to be ignored. Just FYI.Samoa Joe would absolutely destroy him. Nakamura, Rock and Braun too.
MMA fans make me laugh. They always make it seem like someone with just a tad bit of training can whoop someone twice their size and more athletic than they are. I’m not talking someone prime BJ Penn or Anderson Silva good, they thought Daniel Bryan would whoop the Rock in a fight lmao. Probably think some green belt 90 pound female would beat Braun too.Seriously, probably anyone on the roster. Punk's MMA "career" exposed him as one of the most un-athletic people to ever step in a WWE ring. Joe Rogan was right when he tore into Punk on his podcast this week. He basically said that any real athlete could get a few weeks of rudimentary MMA training and do better than Punk did on Saturday. Punk has no natural ability or affinity for the sport whatsoever.
Hell, I don't doubt I could get my friend who wrestled in high school to spend a weekend teaching me how to properly do takedowns and I'd probably give Punk a run for his money.Sign here.sharpcage posted...Samoa Joe would absolutely destroy him. Nakamura, Rock and Braun too.
MMA fans make me laugh. They always make it seem like someone with just a tad bit of training can whoop someone twice their size and more athletic than they are. I’m not talking someone prime BJ Penn or Anderson Silva good, they though Daniel Bryan would whoop the Rock in a fight lmao. Probably think some green belt 90 pound female would beat Braun too.
See, I mostly agree, but I think Rocky is a terrible example. He's old, his muscles are just for show anymore, and he proved last time he wrestled (which was already over 5 years ago) that he doesn't have the stamina / athleticism for wrestling, anymore. Imagine how quick he would get gassed in a real sport.Sign here.SaintSeiyaX posted...CM Punk should have never done MMA...he absolutely lowered his stock even in professional wrestling.
To that I'd probably say...so? He's done with wrestling so what difference does it make if he's lowered his stock? (not sure I'd even agree anyway, think he'd get a ridiculous pop in any arena in the country...and every company would be more than happy to have him)
Surely the point in having a 'high stock' is so you can do they things you couldn't when your stock was lower, if it's to make money or to open doors to things that would otherwise be shut or whatever.
If Punk hadn't gone into MMA which is obviously something he wanted to do, what else would he have done with his 'high stock'?Pixel Noir. Coming soon to PC/Mac/Linux/PS4/PS Vita/Xbox Onemajin nemesis posted...El Marsh posted...
Outside of Lesnar, Lashly and Del Rio can any wrestler beat Cm Punk in a fight?
Roman Reigns
Braun Strowman
Matt Hardy
Apollo Crews
Kalisto
Dean Ambrose
Curt Hawkins
Curtis Axel
Heath Slater
Rhyno
Scott Dawson
Dash Wilder
Finn Balor
Goldust
Seth Rollins
Titus O’Neill
Bray Wyatt
Big Show
Elias
Bo Dallas
Dolph Ziggler
Jinder Mahal
Bobby Roode
Kevin Owens
Sami Zayn
Drew McIntyre
Baron Corbin
Chad Gable
Mojo Rawley
Zack Ryder
The Ascension
Breezango
Mike Kanellis
AOP
No Way Jose
Kane
Jason Jordan
John Cena
AJ Styles
Jeff Hardy
Samoa Joe
Aiden English
Big E
Kofi Kingston
Xavier Woods
Randy Orton
Sheamus
Cesaro
Rowan
Harper
Epico
Primo
Tye Dillinger
Dolph Ziggler
Shinsuke Nakamura
James Ellsworth
Jey Uso
Jimmy Uso
Rusev
Konnor
Viktor
Sin Cara
The Miz
Daniel Bryan
Big Cass
Andrade “Cien” Almas
Luke Gallows
Karl Anderson
R-Truth
Cesaro
Sheamus
Killian Dain
Eric Young
Alexander Wolfe
Akira Tozawa
Ariya Daivari
The Brian Kendrick
Cedric Alexander
Drew Gulak
Gran Metalik
Jack Gallagher
Lince Dorado
Mustafa Ali
Noam Dar
Oney Lorcan
Rich Swann
TJP
Tony Nese
Hideo Itami
Neville
Kalisto
Mark Andrews
most of those can't since they never had been in a fight or have any fight training CM punk may be an amateur but he had sometraining and has been in 2 fights
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CM Punk should have never done MMA...he absolutely lowered his stock even in professional wrestling.
To that I'd probably say...so? He's done with wrestling so what difference does it make if he's lowered his stock? (not sure I'd even agree anyway, think he'd get a ridiculous pop in any arena in the country...and every company would be more than happy to have him)
Surely the point in having a 'high stock' is so you can do they things you couldn't when your stock was lower, if it's to make money or to open doors to things that would otherwise be shut or whatever.
If Punk hadn't gone into MMA which is obviously something he wanted to do, what else would he have done with his 'high stock'?
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isn't punk a blue belt in BJJ? on top of 5 yrs of MMA training? btw, the guy who submitted him in his UFC debut is a legit brown belt. There isn't anyone in the WWE roster that's a brown belt in BJJTheoryzC posted...Gotta hand it to him. Knowingly and completely demolished his wrestling tough guy aura by doing MMA. Shows how much he doesn't give a fuck out pro wrestling
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Punk fought in the highest promotion of MMA (UFC).
The dudes he fought would've never been on UFC PPV if Punk didn't need cans to fight. He was demolished by a rookie and a commentator. Nakamura would kill him.
I wouldn't call Mickey Gall a can or really a rookie. Dude started boxing at 13, and BJJ at 16, was undefeated as an amateur and is 4-1 as a pro, dude is legit.- Boards
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