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Sunday, January 14, 2018

Jericho officially has more 5 stars then Bryan, Orton, HHH, Angle & Lesnar

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BloodPump 3 days ago#1
Combined.

;)
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That match was not 5 stars. Meltzer has lost all his credibility
So does Funaki.

And Johnny Ace has as many as Jericho and Funaki combined.
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TundraKing87 3 days ago#4
Wait a year. DB will wrestle a standard Bryan match against Rhodes and Tuna Meltzer will give it 5 easy.
KeJo6 3 days ago#5
Not true.

I'm arbitrarily giving Brock vs Ambrose, HHH vs Reigns, Bryan vs Sheamus, and WWE vs The Alliance all *****.
KeJo6 posted...
Not true.

I'm arbitrarily giving Brock vs Ambrose, HHH vs Reigns, Bryan vs Sheamus, and WWE vs The Alliance all *****.

You're not official
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KeJo6 3 days ago#7
bigpatpunchhard posted...
KeJo6 posted...
Not true.

I'm arbitrarily giving Brock vs Ambrose, HHH vs Reigns, Bryan vs Sheamus, and WWE vs The Alliance all *****.

You're not official


Yes I am.
You're not even a proper
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KeJo6 3 days ago#9
bigpatpunchhard posted...
You're not even a proper


The I in my previous post was capitalized, therefore a proper pronoun.
Quintana88 3 days ago#10
Actually quite surprised to learn Bryan’s big ROH title defenses did not get five stars. Figured those were right down Dave’s alley
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BloodPump 3 days ago#11
Quintana88 posted...
Actually quite surprised to learn Bryan’s big ROH title defenses did not get five stars. Figured those were right down Dave’s alley


His match with KENTA absolutely deserved a 5, same with his DG bout with Doi and his PWG epic with Hero (though tbf with the last one that one was never rated by Dave).
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1234Life 3 days ago#12
BloodPump posted...
Quintana88 posted...
Actually quite surprised to learn Bryan’s big ROH title defenses did not get five stars. Figured those were right down Dave’s alley


His match with KENTA absolutely deserved a 5, same with his DG bout with Doi and his PWG epic with Hero (though tbf with the last one that one was never rated by Dave).


Yeah, Big Dave didn't start rating PWG matches until he actually started going to the shows a few years ago.
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Flockaveli 3 days ago#14
How many of those ***** are real though?

Realistically it was a **** match but because it wasn’t WWE he gave it a bonus *.
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Dynedux 3 days ago#15
Bryan vs Punk at OTL '12 was 7*
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VicVinegar 3 days ago#16
Man you guys put alot of stock in that nerds blog.
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Man you guys put alot of stock in that nerds blog.

It's an actual printed newsletter, not a blog
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TranceQuina 3 days ago#18
John Cena also has a five star match

I guess that makes him better than those guys too.
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VicVinegar 3 days ago#19
bigpatpunchhard posted...
VicVinegar posted...
Man you guys put alot of stock in that nerds blog.

It's an actual printed newsletter, not a blog


Print? What is this 1973..
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Marter 3 days ago#20
It's ... weird how this industry has one person who gives ratings for matches that so much of the (smark) audience takes as an "official" thing, no?

Like if someone says a match was a [X]-star match, chances are you know who gave it.

Even though such a thing is subjective and, much like with films and video games and music, that one person's perspective shouldn't carry that much weight.
I4NRulez 3 days ago#21
Marter posted...
It's ... weird how this industry has one person who gives ratings for matches that so much of the (smark) audience takes as an "official" thing, no?

Like if someone says a match was a [X]-star match, chances are you know who gave it.

Even though such a thing is subjective and, much like with films and video games and music, that one person's perspective shouldn't carry that much weight.


He's a dude whos well respected and has a lot of wrestling knowledge. He's covered wrestling and other sports for a long time.

People put way too much stock into it though. Honestly it should just be like "Wow, dave really liked that match maybe i should check it out" but instead people get all triggered by arbitrary star ratings that dont make any difference in if YOU actually like the match or not
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ssjmole 3 days ago#22
bigpatpunchhard posted...
VicVinegar posted...
Man you guys put alot of stock in that nerds blog.

It's an actual printed newsletter, not a blog


So is a school newspaper that talks about kids been the next johnny Depp because of their performance in the school play. (Literally got that one at our house a few weeks ago)

With how many people in the buisness say he lies I put as much stick in his news letters as those. 



People in the buisnes say he's a fraud and liar. Their opinion on the buisness > his. His opinion is equal to gamefaqs reviews by users. 

I understand the current gimmick is to make out like he's god and his opinions are 100% the truth. But it just makes the people doing it look like jokes.
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1234Life 3 days ago#23
I4NRulez posted...
"Wow, dave really liked that match maybe i should check it out"


And that's really why he rates matches the way he does. WWE obviously doesn't need the "5 star match" appeal since they're the biggest promotion in the world. More eyes are on NJPW and PWG than ever before.

The fact that WWE fans are trying to make Dave Meltzer into this big evil villain is hilarious.
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ssjmole 3 days ago#24
1234Life posted...
I4NRulez posted...
"Wow, dave really liked that match maybe i should check it out"


And that's really why he rates matches the way he does. WWE obviously doesn't need the "5 star match" appeal since they're the biggest promotion in the world. More eyes are on NJPW and PWG than ever before.

The fact that WWE fans are trying to make Dave Meltzer into this big evil villain is hilarious.


Villain ? Most say he's a joke which like that video showed also in Bischoff podcast that people in the industry know he lies and don't put stock in it. Villian is giving him waaaay to much creditability
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DizzyTechno 3 days ago#25
Until your opinion on wrestling makes you six figures annually for multiple decades your opinion is literally not worth as much as Meltzer's.
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I4NRulez 3 days ago#26
ssjmole posted...
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And that's really why he rates matches the way he does. WWE obviously doesn't need the "5 star match" appeal since they're the biggest promotion in the world. More eyes are on NJPW and PWG than ever before.

The fact that WWE fans are trying to make Dave Meltzer into this big evil villain is hilarious.


Villain ? Most say he's a joke which like that video showed also in Bischoff podcast that people in the industry know he lies and don't put stock in it. Villian is giving him waaaay to much creditability


that whole video is just people saying "IF MELTZERS SO SMART WHY ISNT HE A BOOKER"
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1234Life posted...
I4NRulez posted...
"Wow, dave really liked that match maybe i should check it out"


And that's really why he rates matches the way he does. WWE obviously doesn't need the "5 star match" appeal since they're the biggest promotion in the world. More eyes are on NJPW and PWG than ever before.

The fact that WWE fans are trying to make Dave Meltzer into this big evil villain is hilarious.
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ssjmole 3 days ago#28
DizzyTechno posted...
Until your opinion on wrestling makes you six figures annually for multiple decades your opinion is literally not worth as much as Meltzer's.


Going by that no gamers opinion on games matter Vs igns.
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ssjmole 3 days ago#29
I4NRulez posted...
that whole video is just people saying "IF MELTZERS SO SMART WHY ISNT HE A BOOKER"


And wrestlers saying they don't care about his opinion , Al Snow calls him a con man , undertaker says people like him forget they are fans and talk about a buisness they never did and more. He's a joke.

Like I said listen to Bischoff podcast. So many episodes he gets asked about stuff meltzer says was been talked about and Bischoff says it's a lie and wasn't even mentioned once
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I4NRulez 3 days ago#30
ssjmole posted...
, undertaker says people like him forget they are fans and talk about a buisness they never did and more. He's a joke.


He's a journalist and he reports on the business.
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ssjmole 3 days ago#31
I4NRulez posted...
ssjmole posted...
, undertaker says people like him forget they are fans and talk about a buisness they never did and more. He's a joke.


He's a journalist and he reports on the business.


So is fox news they are not taken seriously
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Meltzer gave Jericho vs Omega 5 stars? I loved the match too but that's a little high

But good for jericho and kenny
PS how the fuck is angle Benoit RR03 not 5 stars?
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It's an actual printed newsletter, not a blog


So is a school newspaper that talks about kids been the next johnny Depp because of their performance in the school play. (Literally got that one at our house a few weeks ago)

With how many people in the buisness say he lies I put as much stick in his news letters as those. 



People in the buisnes say he's a fraud and liar. Their opinion on the buisness > his. His opinion is equal to gamefaqs reviews by users. 

I understand the current gimmick is to make out like he's god and his opinions are 100% the truth. But it just makes the people doing it look like jokes.

lol this video is rubbish. using guys like ole and al as gospel is a good way to believe dumb shit
n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#35
The same logic used to make Meltzer official makes VG Chartz numbers official. Anyone who thinks he is flat out is a joke.
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ssjmole 3 days ago#36
cheese_game619 posted...
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So is a school newspaper that talks about kids been the next johnny Depp because of their performance in the school play. (Literally got that one at our house a few weeks ago)

With how many people in the buisness say he lies I put as much stick in his news letters as those. 



People in the buisnes say he's a fraud and liar. Their opinion on the buisness > his. His opinion is equal to gamefaqs reviews by users. 

I understand the current gimmick is to make out like he's god and his opinions are 100% the truth. But it just makes the people doing it look like jokes.

lol this video is rubbish. using guys like ole and al as gospel is a good way to believe dumb shit


Not gospel like the meltzer followers. Just pointing out in the buisnes there are a lot who are him a joke. Plus those two unlike have actual buisness experience in wrestling so they are better than him. He is the fox news or TMZ of wrestling
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TundraKing87 posted...
Wait a year. DB will wrestle a standard Bryan match against Rhodes and Tuna Meltzer will give it 5 easy.


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n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#38
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lol this video is rubbish. using guys like ole and al as gospel is a good way to believe dumb shit


Not gospel like the meltzer followers. Just pointing out in the buisnes there are a lot who are him a joke. Plus those two unlike have actual buisness experience in wrestling so they are better than him. He is the fox news or TMZ of wrestling

You should slow the fuck down and put all the missing words into your posts.
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lol this video is rubbish. using guys like ole and al as gospel is a good way to believe dumb shit


Not gospel like the meltzer followers. Just pointing out in the buisnes there are a lot who are him a joke. Plus those two unlike have actual buisness experience in wrestling so they are better than him. He is the fox news or TMZ of wrestling

he is a journalist. he doesnt need to be a booker to have an opinion. he has said countless times he doesnt take his ratings that seriously. you're getting worked.

his opinion matters because he fervently covered wrestling all over the world for decades when no one else did. if you like the wrestling he likes, his ratings are a useful guide.
DizzyTechno 3 days ago#40
ssjmole posted...
DizzyTechno posted...
Until your opinion on wrestling makes you six figures annually for multiple decades your opinion is literally not worth as much as Meltzer's.


Going by that no gamers opinion on games matter Vs igns.


I didn't say anyone's opinion doesn't matter, just saying monetarily speaking your opinion is not worth as much as Meltzer's. That's why people pay for his opinions and yours are just in the way.
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n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#41
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Going by that no gamers opinion on games matter Vs igns.


I didn't say anyone's opinion doesn't matter, just saying monetarily speaking your opinion is not worth as much as Meltzer's. That's why people pay for his opinions and yours are just in the way.

At least the rest of us have our own opinion. You’re just a parrot.
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DizzyTechno 3 days ago#42
It's just a coincidence that all of my opinions are the exact same as Meltzer's.
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SkaFrost89 3 days ago#43
The fatal 4 way was easily 5 stars and MotN
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I didn't say anyone's opinion doesn't matter, just saying monetarily speaking your opinion is not worth as much as Meltzer's. That's why people pay for his opinions and yours are just in the way.

At least the rest of us have our own opinion. You’re just a parrot.

all you lot talk about is which diva is hottest but not even in a normal manly way, its all weird waifu shit. then there's 'your' version of history that was written by mcmahon. off the high horse, sport
SkaFrost89 posted...
The fatal 4 way was easily 5 stars and MotN

i thought the first half was 5 stars and then they lost their way a little with a few botches in a row, still great though
JfAtS1O3N 3 days ago#46
Contrary to popular opinion, Meltzer's ratings do matter but they're not the end all, be all either. Him giving that match 5* is ridiculous and that is from someone who really liked the match. I would give it a 4*.
n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#47
cheese_game619 posted...
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At least the rest of us have our own opinion. You’re just a parrot.

all you lot talk about is which diva is hottest but not even in a normal manly way, its all weird waifu shit. then there's 'your' version of history that was written by mcmahon. off the high horse, sport

Go find a single post where I do that or keep your fucking ass shut, kid.
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all you lot talk about is which diva is hottest but not even in a normal manly way, its all weird waifu shit. then there's 'your' version of history that was written by mcmahon. off the high horse, sport

Go find a single post where I do that or keep your fucking ass shut, kid.

thats funny that you assume everyone else talks out of their ass too
n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#49
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Go find a single post where I do that or keep your fucking ass shut, kid.

thats funny that you assume everyone else talks out of their ass too

So you can’t back up your claim? I didn’t think so.
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Muflaggin 3 days ago#50
The funny thing is the star ratings are like the least important thing Dave does, but everyone loses their shit over them. He's even said as much.

Anyways I probably wouldn't have gone 5*, but I certainly respect his opinion.
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    thats funny that you assume everyone else talks out of their ass too

    So you can’t back up your claim? I didn’t think so.

    i dont know who you are. where is this personal attack you have been oh so offended by? show me ass talker
    Quintana88 3 days ago#52
    Meltzer's just a critic like anything else. I don't know why people get upset or confused about the situation, reviewers have existed in entertainment for decades.

    People followed Roger Ebert. They check Rotten Tomatoes. Sometimes they agree with the reviews, sometimes they don't. Not really a big deal.
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    n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#53
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    So you can’t back up your claim? I didn’t think so.

    i dont know who you are. where is this personal attack you have been oh so offended by? show me ass talker

    Then why quote me and try to call me out? Nice failure, kiddo.
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    ssjmole 3 days ago#54
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    Not gospel like the meltzer followers. Just pointing out in the buisnes there are a lot who are him a joke. Plus those two unlike have actual buisness experience in wrestling so they are better than him. He is the fox news or TMZ of wrestling

    he is a journalist. he doesnt need to be a booker to have an opinion. he has said countless times he doesnt take his ratings that seriously. you're getting worked.

    his opinion matters because he fervently covered wrestling all over the world for decades when no one else did. if you like the wrestling he likes, his ratings are a useful guide.


    Not worked to say He is the fox news or TMZ of wrestling. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with stars. Saying they don't matter. Much like fox and TMZ his reports and news is faked a lot of times and just like them he blames bad sources or claims plans changed so both ways he's right.

    His opinion doesn't matter. Just like TMZ have reported on movie stars for years their opinion on movies or TV means nothing because their lying stories prove just like with him they are bad journalists.
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    he is a journalist. he doesnt need to be a booker to have an opinion. he has said countless times he doesnt take his ratings that seriously. you're getting worked.

    his opinion matters because he fervently covered wrestling all over the world for decades when no one else did. if you like the wrestling he likes, his ratings are a useful guide.


    Not worked to say He is the fox news or TMZ of wrestling. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with stars. Saying they don't matter. Much like fox and TMZ his reports and news is faked a lot of times and just like them he blames bad sources or claims plans changed so both ways he's right.

    His opinion doesn't matter. Just like TMZ have reported on movie stars for years their opinion on movies or TV means nothing because their lying stories prove just like with him they are bad journalists.

    ok so what did he lie about
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    i dont know who you are. where is this personal attack you have been oh so offended by? show me ass talker

    Then why quote me and try to call me out? Nice failure, kiddo.

    because you quoted me

    do you think calling me a kid is some kind of victory lol
    BaronNugget 3 days ago#57
    This is just one persons opinion, some people seriously need to stop treating Meltzer's opinion as fact and learn how to think independently and come up with their own point of view.
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    ssjmole 3 days ago#58
    cheese_game619 posted...
    ok so what did he lie about


    Like mentioned listen to Bischoff on wrestling. There's many weeks where they read a Meltzer report and Bischoff flat out says it was never even mentioned. Plans didn't change they didn't exist.

    Really you think all of his reports and news is 100% real?
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    n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#59
    cheese_game619 posted...
    because you quoted me

    do you think calling me a kid is some kind of victory lol

    No, I quoted Dizzy. You quoted me. Or are you Dizzy’s alt account now?
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    ok so what did he lie about


    Like mentioned listen to Bischoff on wrestling. There's many weeks where they read a Meltzer report and Bischoff flat out says it was never even mentioned. Plans didn't change they didn't exist.

    Really you think all of his reports and news is 100% real?

    he definitely isnt right all the time but what makes bischoff more reliable than anyone. not exactly objective is he. certainly doesnt have a clean reputation. anything else
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    because you quoted me

    do you think calling me a kid is some kind of victory lol

    No, I quoted Dizzy. You quoted me. Or are you Dizzy’s alt account now?

    you just did it again
    ssjmole 3 days ago#62
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    Like mentioned listen to Bischoff on wrestling. There's many weeks where they read a Meltzer report and Bischoff flat out says it was never even mentioned. Plans didn't change they didn't exist.

    Really you think all of his reports and news is 100% real?

    he definitely isnt right all the time but what makes bischoff more reliable than anyone. not exactly objective is he. certainly doesnt have a clean reputation. anything else


    what makes bischoff more reliable on whether something was or wasn't discussed in meetings he ran or was at Vs a guy who wasnt there? 

    Gee I wonder.
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    he definitely isnt right all the time but what makes bischoff more reliable than anyone. not exactly objective is he. certainly doesnt have a clean reputation. anything else


    what makes bischoff more reliable on whether something was or wasn't discussed in meetings he ran or was at Vs a guy who wasnt there? 

    Gee I wonder.

    not objective though is it

    and being erong doesnt mean he was lying. his sources may have mislead him. thats journalism. when its rumour time you take it with a grain of salt, nobody should expect otherwise

    you seem to have a vendetta
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    he definitely isnt right all the time but what makes bischoff more reliable than anyone. not exactly objective is he. certainly doesnt have a clean reputation. anything else

    what makes bischoff more reliable on whether something was or wasn't discussed in meetings he ran or was at Vs a guy who wasnt there? 

    Gee I wonder.

    not objective though is it

    and being wrong doesnt mean he was lying. his sources may have mislead him but thats journalism. you werent going to hear it straight from bischoff at the time. when its the rumour column you take it with a grain of salt, nobody should expect otherwise

    you seem to have a vendetta
    ssjmole 3 days ago#65
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    what makes bischoff more reliable on whether something was or wasn't discussed in meetings he ran or was at Vs a guy who wasnt there? 

    Gee I wonder.

    not objective though is it

    and being erong doesnt mean he was lying. his sources may have mislead him. thats journalism. when its rumour time you take it with a grain of salt, nobody should expect otherwise

    you seem to have a vendetta


    Arguably it is objective or more than you think if he answers both ways and is trying to let people know details ect... 

    As for the Vendetta. Isn't that you? Saying he is like fox news and TMZ who use the excuse you used all the time isn't that accurate? Fox and TMZ get things right too but they are both jokes because of all the times they are wrong. No idea why you are so determined to try and make out thinking he's a joke journalist is some big crusade.
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    CourtofOwls 3 days ago#66
    wow,that got 5?
    i thought it was a solid 4 and if anything was getting 5 it'd be naito/okada which only got 4.5
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    not objective though is it

    and being erong doesnt mean he was lying. his sources may have mislead him. thats journalism. when its rumour time you take it with a grain of salt, nobody should expect otherwise

    you seem to have a vendetta


    Arguably it is objective or more than you think if he answers both ways and is trying to let people know details ect... 

    As for the Vendetta. Isn't that you? Saying he is like fox news and TMZ who use the excuse you used all the time isn't that accurate? Fox and TMZ get things right too but they are both jokes because of all the times they are wrong. No idea why you are so determined to try and make out thinking he's a joke journalist is some big crusade.

    if he is a joke then so is the whole industry, because he is the highest regarded journalist and historian of it
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    ssjmole 3 days ago#68
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    Arguably it is objective or more than you think if he answers both ways and is trying to let people know details ect... 

    As for the Vendetta. Isn't that you? Saying he is like fox news and TMZ who use the excuse you used all the time isn't that accurate? Fox and TMZ get things right too but they are both jokes because of all the times they are wrong. No idea why you are so determined to try and make out thinking he's a joke journalist is some big crusade.

    if he is a joke then so is the whole industry, because he is the highest regarded journalist and historian of it


    See? Super defensive. Either your him or trying to use him to troll.
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    nativengine 3 days ago#69
    How many 5* matches has Meltzer given La Parka? Probably too many to count I take it.
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    ssjmole posted...
    See? Super defensive. Either your him or trying to use him to troll.

    who is regarded in higher esteem? if there is someone higher i want to know about them, genuinely.

    if the coverage is a joke what does that say about the product?

    its not defensiveness, these are the obvious questions
    ok

    1. That was not 5 Stars, I'd say 4.25

    2. Why is Orton, H and Lesnar on your list period?

    3. Why is Triple H on your list?

    4. WHY IS ORTON ON YOUR LIST?
    BloodPump 2 days ago#72
    ShadowRaiden00 posted...
    ok

    1. That was not 5 Stars, I'd say 4.25

    2. Why is Orton, H and Lesnar on your list period?

    3. Why is Triple H on your list?

    4. WHY IS ORTON ON YOUR LIST?


    Because reasons :p

    On a serious note, Lesnar has the capability of having a 5 star with the proper motivation.
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    JfAtS1O3N 2 days ago#73
    Orton vs Foley from Backlash 2004 is a lot more worthy of a 5* than that Jericho vs Omega match.
    Cubs017 2 days ago#74
    Meltzer has really loosened up with his star ratings over the last few years. 

    You're telling me this was Jericho's best match ever? 

    I didn't think so.
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    Lol Meltzer. Any one of us on here might as well rate the matches ourselves and then charge people extortionate amounts for our opinions.

    Guy sat through an earthquake to watch Japanese wrestling because priorities.
    Man is like a piece of cheese...
    Heatseeker500 posted...
    Lol Meltzer. Any one of us on here might as well rate the matches ourselves and then charge people extortionate amounts for our opinions.

    Guy sat through an earthquake to watch Japanese wrestling because priorities.

    if you can, why not

    but can you
    cheese_game619 posted...
    Heatseeker500 posted...
    Lol Meltzer. Any one of us on here might as well rate the matches ourselves and then charge people extortionate amounts for our opinions.

    Guy sat through an earthquake to watch Japanese wrestling because priorities.

    if you can, why not

    but can you


    Indeed.
    Man is like a piece of cheese...
    Heatseeker500 posted...
    Guy sat through an earthquake to watch Japanese wrestling because priorities.

    Anyone scared of earthquakes is a coward. I sit through them and do nothing all the time
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    JfAtS1O3N posted...
    Orton vs Foley from Backlash 2004 is a lot more worthy of a 5* than that Jericho vs Omega match.
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    BaronNugget 2 days ago#80
    bigpatpunchhard posted...
    Heatseeker500 posted...
    Guy sat through an earthquake to watch Japanese wrestling because priorities.

    Anyone scared of earthquakes is a coward. I sit through them and do nothing all the time


    That's because you cause them when you start walking
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    If I'm sitting down when the earthquake happens, how can I cause them by running? That doesn't make any sense. Also earthquakes are caused by tectonic plates shifting. Don't they teach you anything on those Britain First camps you get your schooling from?
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    Arcane199 2 days ago#82
    Dave's Star rating is just one man opinion so it shouldn't be important to anybody at all.

    But so many people need to talk about it and now it becomes something terrifying, a sentient being bend on merging humanity into a single ***** hive mind.

    You'll all being seeing stars soon...
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    I loved Jericho vs. Omega and don't see why people are bitching about it getting a five star rating. It was my first NJPW match I've seen (huge Jericho mark and his promo work leading up to it hyped me), and it was amazing. I enjoyed it a lot more than a lot of matches that have gotten five star ratings from WWE over the years.
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    occupine 2 days ago#84
    Look, I like meltzer, he's one of the few reputable journalists in this industry. But he still gives out opinions, not facts. Some I agree with, some I don't. Worship is stupid, but so is pointlessly bashing him.
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    HBOSS 2 days ago#85
    5* Jericho vs Omega?
    I need to watch that match.
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    JfAtS1O3N 2 days ago#86
    MotaroRIP619 posted...
    I loved Jericho vs. Omega and don't see why people are bitching about it getting a five star rating. It was my first NJPW match I've seen (huge Jericho mark and his promo work leading up to it hyped me), and it was amazing. I enjoyed it a lot more than a lot of matches that have gotten five star ratings from WWE over the years.

    What WWE matches have even gotten 5* from Meltzer over the years? The only one in the last 20 years is Cena vs Punk from MitB 2011. And I really liked the Jericho vs Omega match but it wasn't better than Austin vs Bret or the first HIAC.
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    JfAtS1O3N posted...
    MotaroRIP619 posted...
    I loved Jericho vs. Omega and don't see why people are bitching about it getting a five star rating. It was my first NJPW match I've seen (huge Jericho mark and his promo work leading up to it hyped me), and it was amazing. I enjoyed it a lot more than a lot of matches that have gotten five star ratings from WWE over the years.

    What WWE matches have even gotten 5* from Meltzer over the years? The only one in the last 20 years is Cena vs Punk from MitB 2011. And I really liked the Jericho vs Omega match but it wasn't better than Austin vs Bret or the first HIAC.

    austin vs bret was 5* wasnt it?
    JfAtS1O3N 2 days ago#88
    cheese_game619 posted...
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    What WWE matches have even gotten 5* from Meltzer over the years? The only one in the last 20 years is Cena vs Punk from MitB 2011. And I really liked the Jericho vs Omega match but it wasn't better than Austin vs Bret or the first HIAC.

    austin vs bret was 5* wasnt it?

    It was, my post was in response to Motaro saying Jericho vs Omega was better than a lot of WWE's five star matches. I guess looking at the history of WWE's five star matches, it was better than the ladder match between HBK and Razor.
    BloodPump posted...
    On a serious note, Lesnar has the capability of having a 5 star with the proper motivation.

    ok, but

    JfAtS1O3N posted...
    Orton vs Foley from Backlash 2004 is a lot more worthy of a 5* than that Jericho vs Omega match.

    sure but

    neither of these 2 guys are know for it, so you put them and HHH (another one not know for it) on a list with 2 guys who wrestled for less time than Jericho.

    Its not an impressive list.
    JfAtS1O3N posted...
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    austin vs bret was 5* wasnt it?

    It was, my post was in response to Motaro saying Jericho vs Omega was better than a lot of WWE's five star matches. I guess looking at the history of WWE's five star matches, it was better than the ladder match between HBK and Razor.


    I was mistaken. I thought he had given out more 5 Star ratings than he had. I don’t know if Jericho vs Omega deserved more but I really enjoyed the whole thing from the promos leading up to it and the match itself.
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    JfAtS1O3N 2 days ago#91
    MotaroRIP619 posted...
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    It was, my post was in response to Motaro saying Jericho vs Omega was better than a lot of WWE's five star matches. I guess looking at the history of WWE's five star matches, it was better than the ladder match between HBK and Razor.


    I was mistaken. I thought he had given out more 5 Star ratings than he had. I don’t know if Jericho vs Omega deserved more but I really enjoyed the whole thing from the promos leading up to it and the match itself.

    Yeah he's only ever given 5 WWE matches 5*. The Cena/Punk, Austin/Bret, HBK/Taker HIAC, Bret/Owen cage match, HBK/Razor ladder match. I think a lot of his ratings now prove he is way more lenient on match ratings, and I'm talking about his ratings for all promotions.
    1234Life 2 days ago#92
    JfAtS1O3N posted...
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    I was mistaken. I thought he had given out more 5 Star ratings than he had. I don’t know if Jericho vs Omega deserved more but I really enjoyed the whole thing from the promos leading up to it and the match itself.

    Yeah he's only ever given 5 WWE matches 5*. The Cena/Punk, Austin/Bret, HBK/Taker HIAC, Bret/Owen cage match, HBK/Razor ladder match. I think a lot of his ratings now prove he is way more lenient on match ratings, and I'm talking about his ratings for all promotions.


    Obviously. He tends to give a lot of Roman Reigns matches 4+ stars. Hell, he gave Goldberg/Lesnar from last year's WrestleMania 3.5 stars. He would have given that match DUD rating a decade ago.
    WWE marks be reading Dave Meltzer's NJPW match ratings like:
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    BloodPump 2 days ago#93
    ShadowRaiden00 posted...
    BloodPump posted...
    On a serious note, Lesnar has the capability of having a 5 star with the proper motivation.

    ok, but

    JfAtS1O3N posted...
    Orton vs Foley from Backlash 2004 is a lot more worthy of a 5* than that Jericho vs Omega match.

    sure but

    neither of these 2 guys are know for it, so you put them and HHH (another one not know for it) on a list with 2 guys who wrestled for less time than Jericho.

    Its not an impressive list.


    However your ability to take a joke this seriously is quite impressive.
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    JfAtS1O3N 2 days ago#94
    1234Life posted...
    JfAtS1O3N posted...
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    Yeah he's only ever given 5 WWE matches 5*. The Cena/Punk, Austin/Bret, HBK/Taker HIAC, Bret/Owen cage match, HBK/Razor ladder match. I think a lot of his ratings now prove he is way more lenient on match ratings, and I'm talking about his ratings for all promotions.


    Obviously. He tends to give a lot of Roman Reigns matches 4+ stars. Hell, he gave Goldberg/Lesnar from last year's WrestleMania 3.5 stars. He would have given that match DUD rating a decade ago.

    Woah wait he gave Goldberg/Lesnar 3.5*? Jesus...

    But he's way lenient on NJPW too, I said before that I liked this match but it wasn't 5* for me. I mean, a 5* match should be considered one of the greatest matches of all time and I haven't seen a ton of Omega matches, but out of the handful I have seen it seems like he has matches like the one against Jericho in his sleep. It was a really solid 4* match.
    I4NRulez 2 days ago#95
    JfAtS1O3N posted...
    Woah wait he gave Goldberg/Lesnar 3.5*? Jesus...

    But he's way lenient on NJPW too, I said before that I liked this match but it wasn't 5* for me. I mean, a 5* match should be considered one of the greatest matches of all time and I haven't seen a ton of Omega matches, but out of the handful I have seen it seems like he has matches like the one against Jericho in his sleep. It was a really solid 4* match.


    Thats because Meltzers bias is for PWG and not NJPW like all the people who dont read or listen to him think it is
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    Old Senile Meltzer gave the Extreme Rules 5 Way (hey, remember that?) this year a 4.5 rating. Talk about bias.
    schizoid37 2 days ago#97
    Lesnar and Angle still have the greatest wrestling match of all time imo, regardless of Dave's rating system
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    Imagine thinking one guys opinion was how matches were actually ranked and rated. There’s no standards or grading process, it’s just some dude saying so. It’s hysterical people argue over it.
    BloodPump posted...
    ShadowRaiden00 posted...
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    ok, but

    JfAtS1O3N posted...
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    sure but

    neither of these 2 guys are know for it, so you put them and HHH (another one not know for it) on a list with 2 guys who wrestled for less time than Jericho.

    Its not an impressive list.


    However your ability to take a joke this seriously is quite impressive.

    everythings a joke, so I respond how I want
    ssjmole 2 days ago#100
    cheese_game619 posted...
    ssjmole posted...
    See? Super defensive. Either your him or trying to use him to troll.

    who is regarded in higher esteem? if there is someone higher i want to know about them, genuinely.

    if the coverage is a joke what does that say about the product?

    its not defensiveness, these are the obvious questions


    Suuuure not defending 😉
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