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Paige's Retirement - Who is at fault?

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187mike 1 day ago#1
Who who who - Results (313 votes)
WWE Doctors
8.63%
27
Paige
18.85%
59
Sasha Banks
52.08%
163
Everybody
20.45%
64
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Watch. Paige steps back into position to take the bump but she wasn't braced for impact. She knew the kick was coming. She just didn't expect it to happen so quickly at that very moment. Hence the reason why she wasn't prepared to take it. There was an obvious miscommunication between both Superstars. 

But watch Sasha Banks. She puts her entire weight into that mulekick no pun intended. Excessive much? 

Everyone is at fault here. The doctors for clearing Paige. Paige for being overzealous. Sasha Banks for being a reckless piece of shit.
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GunboundGod 1 day ago#2
Ivany2008 1 day ago#3
Bit of Paige, Bit of Sasha. Paige had come in already with injuries behind her, so she should have been extra careful. But Sasha should have saw that she wasn't getting ready to protect herself.
It's an accident. It's impossible to brace yourself for a kick to the back like that. I remember when Nikki was feuding with Carmella she sent her flying with a kick like that which Carmella clearly wasn't really for and she just let out a big "SHIT!"

Considering Paige's neck issues, probably the last thing she needed.



There's the Nikki kick. If you pause right before a second you can see Carmella's whiplash.
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1234Life 1 day ago#5
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187mike 1 day ago#6
Oranges2Oranges posted...
It's an accident. It's impossible to brace yourself for a kick to the back like that. I remember when Nikki was feuding with Carmella she sent her flying with a kick like that which Carmella clearly wasn't really for and she just let out a big "SHIT!"

Considering Paige's neck issues, probably the last thing she needed.



There's the Nikki kick. If you pause right before a second you can see Carmella's whiplash.


Ban the mulekick
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TwinStars 1 day ago#7
Injuries happen. It's no ones fault.
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187mike 1 day ago#8
Oh look the Sasha alt defense force came and voted Paige all at once
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TwinStars 1 day ago#9
1234Life posted...
Who cares? We all win.

Not really. Paige is decent in the ring and on the mic. 

There are much worse women on the roster: Alexa Bliss, Liv Morgan, Tamina, and Nia Jax are devoid of wrestling skills.
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Twins fan 1 day ago#10
Just don't do spots like this where someone gets kicked from behind. Big injury risk for something that doesn't look impressive at all. I thought these people were professionals? Why do dumb shit like this? Its like they want to get injured.
zenandi 1 day ago#11
I just have no idea how anyone can be picking Paige at all.

Cleared by doctors and basically doing nothing, just receiving the blow. Blaming the victim as per normal while the one who followed through full force is supposedly blameless and the doctors who somehow cleared her isn't at fault either.

Literally the only thing she did wrong was agreeing to it.

Not wanting to point fingers at Sasha either, but y'all have some weird reasoning to pick Paige.
187mike 1 day ago#12
zenandi posted...
I just have no idea how anyone can be picking Paige at all.

Cleared by doctors and basically doing nothing, just receiving the blow. Blaming the victim as per normal while the one who followed through full force is supposedly blameless and the doctors who somehow cleared her isn't at fault either.

Literally the only thing she did wrong was agreeing to it.

Not wanting to point fingers at Sasha either, but y'all have some weird reasoning to pick Paige.


No one was picking Paige at the beginning of this poll. But then she got 11 votes in like a minute so its obvious the Sasha fanboys are logging onto their alts to rig it
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187mike 1 day ago#13
Lol now its at 17
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187mike 1 day ago#14
Lmfao sad
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lmao PWB. Somehow it's unfair to blame Sasha but we got no issue with blaming the victim
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187mike 1 day ago#16
babyeatermax posted...
lmao PWB. Somehow it's unfair to blame Sasha but we got no issue with blaming the victim


Sasha fanboys at their worst lol
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TwinStars posted...
1234Life posted...
Who cares? We all win.

Not really. Paige is decent in the ring and on the mic. 

There are much worse women on the roster: Alexa Bliss, Liv Morgan, Tamina, and Nia Jax are devoid of wrestling skills.

i'm no fan of paige but i agree with this.
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Legit surprised at the results to this. I voted Everybody.
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187mike 1 day ago#19
matthardyrules posted...
Legit surprised at the results to this. I voted Everybody.


Lol so you're just going to blatantly ignore all the Paige votes that occured seconds apart? Its obvious one of you Sasha trolls are signing onto their million alts rig it
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187mike posted...
matthardyrules posted...
Legit surprised at the results to this. I voted Everybody.


Lol so you're just going to blatantly ignore all the Paige votes that occured seconds apart?


How the fuck was I supposed to know they were seconds apart?

I literally opened the topic, voted, then immediately posted. I haven't even read through the topic.
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187mike 1 day ago#21
matthardyrules posted...
187mike posted...
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Lol so you're just going to blatantly ignore all the Paige votes that occured seconds apart?


How the fuck was I supposed to know they were seconds apart?

I literally opened the topic, voted, then immediately posted. I haven't even read through the topic.


Exactly
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187mike 1 day ago#23
Lol
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Micah_93 1 day ago#24
187Mike, out of curiosity, do you work or go to school? You seem to be here all day.
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187mike posted...
Oh look the Sasha alt defense force came and voted Paige all at once

Ok, usually your posts about Sasha seem like trolling or even shit posting and usually I ignore them. And I hate Paige and voted for her in this topic "before it was cool" b/c I really do think it's her down fault for coming back too soon and taking that bump godawfully.

But damn, gotta agree w/ you here. Poll results went from me and like 1 or 2 other rational people voting Paige to a damn blowout! Something foul is afoot...
187mike 1 day ago#26
So typical lol
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Everyone is at some fault.

Her doctor the only one blameless since he told her don't.

I'd have no issue with banning the mule kick.

Also, why are "the match agents" not an option?
He should have IP locked it. Anyone should have been smart enough to do that.
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187mike posted...
Oh look the Sasha alt defense force came and voted Paige all at once


You only made this topic to try and bash Sasha that's pretty sad
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187mike 1 day ago#31
Micah_93 posted...
187Mike, out of curiosity, do you work or go to school? You seem to be here all day.


I finished school last May. I now work part-time in the evenings as an English Tutor. Helps to know more than one language :P

I also work three seperate seasonal positions from May to January. I've been out of work for the past two weeks so thats why I've been on here more than I should. Oh well I have interviews the next week for more permanent hours so y'all are just going to have to dealwitit until then. 

Are you still in school? Hurry up man.
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187mike 1 day ago#32
ChampionCloud posted...
He should have IP locked it. Anyone should have been smart enough to do that.


I trusted you guys 

Guess I should have known
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pycho316 1 day ago#33
TwinStars posted...
Injuries happen. It's no ones fault.


This. People needing to assign blame are so pathetic. Shit happens. This is a contact sport, these people put wear and tear on their bodies and it's impossible to be 100% safe all the time. 

Paige has supposedly been wrestling since she was 12 which means that at 25 years of age, she's already got 13 years worth of bumps under her belt. That's a long time to be taking this kind of punishment. Add to that women aren't naturally as durable as men (cue the triggered feminists; sorry to have to mansplain shit to you!) and have a shorter shelflife than men when it comes to this kind of stuff and it's impressive she's held up as long as she has. 

Despite the all knowing, armchair quarterbacks of the PWB who know exactly what was communicated between Sasha and Paige in that match, there's no way to know whether that move was planned or spontaneous and whether Sasha acted too soon, Paige didn't ready herself correctly, or where things went wrong. 

But that wasn't that bad of a bump and if something like that could put Paige into retirement then it was only a matter of time before something else did the trick if it didn't happen there. 

If you want to assign blame, blame the WWE as a company for the absurd schedule they keep and the number of matches they make their people work and the amount of travel they put their people through. Putting your people in a grind like that, it's only a matter of time before injuries start piling up which is why every time you turn around someone is suffering a serious injury. They should cut the number of shows they work in half. They'd get a lot more shelflife out of their people, people would be better rested, people would have more time to recover from stuff, and there'd be fewer incidents like this (the improved quality of the product would be a happy by-product too).
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187mike 1 day ago#35
SSJ3Goku222 posted...
187mike posted...
Oh look the Sasha alt defense force came and voted Paige all at once


You only made this topic to try and bash Sasha that's pretty sad


It was actually everyone's fault so I don't know what you're going on about
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ssjmole 1 day ago#36
Sasha. All the people voting Paige are literally victim blaming to protect Sasha. It's disgusting
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jimbiz 1 day ago#37
ChampionCloud posted...
He should have IP locked it. Anyone should have been smart enough to do that.

This 
And how you know if it's the Sasha fans voting for Paige? I bet some of them are Sasha haters vot My for Paige to make her real fans look bad.
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jimbiz 1 day ago#38
Oh and Sasha has 27 votes but I don't see Mike whining about it 
If anything, it is everybody fault and the everybody option should be winning
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187mike 1 day ago#39
jimbiz posted...
Oh and Sasha has 27 votes but I don't see Mike whining about it 
If anything, it is everybody fault and the everybody option should be winning


I voted for everybody too. 

And I was watching the vote lol. Sasha Banks didnt get spammed seconds apart like what happened with Paige earlier 

But now the entire poll is rigged lol
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Wow Sasha INSTANTLY caught up. Last I looked Paige had 28 Sasha had 13.

Now who has all the alts voting for them?
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187mike 1 day ago#41
Its rigged on all fronts
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TonyRodney 1 day ago#42
1234Life posted...
Who cares? We all win.

I care you NJPW swallower. This is why I sometimes hate being fans with you people.
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Everybody.

WWE doctors for clearing her and then disqualifying her

Sasha for kicking her stiff in the spine after neck surgery

Paige for agreeing to do the spot to begin with
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187mike posted...

But watch Sasha Banks. She puts her entire weight into that mulekick no pun intended. Excessive much? 


Sasha Banks is at fault. She didn't hold back on that mulekick, she went FULL FORCE with that shit into Paige's back. That's bullshit. This isn't illegal shoot fighting, this is pro wrestling, you aren't suppose to go full force like that (especially into the spinal area). I remember Alexa Bliss in shoot interviews complaining about how Sasha would PURPOSELY hurt her because Sasha didn't like her. I'm seriously wondering if Sasha did the same to Paige because it looks like she did.... look closely at the footage:

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How the hell is it Paige's fault? She kicked herself in the neck?
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Tupacrulez 1 day ago#46
By the logic of some of you, SCSA was to blame for getting his neck broken.
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SavageGlum100 posted...
187mike posted...

But watch Sasha Banks. She puts her entire weight into that mulekick no pun intended. Excessive much? 


Sasha Banks is at fault. She didn't hold back on that mulekick, she went FULL FORCE with that shit into Paige's back. That's bullshit. This isn't illegal shoot fighting, this is pro wrestling, you aren't suppose to go full force like that (especially into the spinal area). I remember Alexa Bliss in shoot interviews complaining about how Sasha would PURPOSELY hurt her because Sasha didn't like her. I'm seriously wondering if Sasha did the same to Paige because it looks like she did.... look closely at the footage:

ZnuRKYd


Alexa is a lying **** who does ****ing for pushes.

Go watche when Sasha "hurt" her. It's 100% Alexa's fault.

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TonyRodney 1 day ago#49
Heatseeker500 posted...
Everybody.

WWE doctors for clearing her and then disqualifying her

Sasha for kicking her stiff in the spine after neck surgery

Paige for agreeing to do the spot to begin with

Pretty much. The real issue is that this proves the truth of this board like back in Daniel bryan days. If this board likes a person they will bar criticisms against them just because they are great talent. This topic is bad on both sides and there's a lot of people on their high horse.
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I don't give a shit whose at fault. What's done is done, and throwing blame at people isn't gonna do anything to undo the situation. Professional wrestling is a very dangerous sport, and these things happen. It's a really shitty deal for Paige, but she's at least able to live to tell the tale. That's more than I can say for people like Misawa. Everyone who laces up a pair of wrestling boots knows the risks. I would expect everyone on this board to know that same fact too.
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    Fo real tho that kick from Sasha was too stiff
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    That kick wouldn't have done anything to anyone healthy, much less end their career. Not to mention that it was a planned spot. Lol at all the Sasha haters trying to hard to blame this on Sasha just because they don't like her and not because they have a legit point. These are the same people that are always clueless about wrestling and rely on bias anyway so not surprising their patheticness and clueless runs here. Same way some of you people are a waste of oxygen actually being happy someone got injured and may also have their career come to a halt. Never change PWB. More archival fuel for me to mock you lmao
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    187mike 1 day ago#53
    smh
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    TonyRodney 1 day ago#54
    xOmniCloudx posted...
    That kick wouldn't have done anything to anyone healthy, much less end their career. Not to mention that it was a planned spot. Lol at all the Sasha haters trying to hard to blame this on Sasha just because they don't like her and not because they have a legit point. These are the same people that are always clueless about wrestling and rely on bias anyway so not surprising their patheticness and clueless runs here. Same way some of you people are a waste of oxygen actually being happy someone got injured and may also have their career come to a halt. Never change PWB. More archival fuel for me to mock you lmao

    I like her, like my 3rd favorite wrestler but it's still her fault because she did do it. So people have a right to blame her. Still just cause it's her fault does not mean we have to crucify her. 

    And fuel for what? You're over here clearly victim blaming. Why are you trying to take the moral high ground here?
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    Mike I don't see you complaining now that Sasha is somehow up by 20 votes haha
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    A lot of people are at fault but Sasha is definitely the most to blame. You have to protect your opponents. Wrestling someone who's had neck issues and kicking them like THAT is just plain stupid and careless. That kick is fucking brutal even if it was against a healthy opponent. Just plain careless.
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    IronWolf87 1 day ago#57
    I said everyone, but I think most of the fault lies with WWE here. After they saw that spot done w/ Bailey they should of told them all to knock that shit off right then and there.

    Paige is only really at fault for agreeing to do that spot, and given the culture of the WWE and her wanting to make the most of her comeback it's understandable why she agreed to do it but yeah...bad call.
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    ssjmole 1 day ago#58
    matthardyrules posted...
    Mike I don't see you complaining now that Sasha is somehow up by 20 votes haha


    What?? He didn't check or respond for a hole 19 minutes!? Yeah @187mike how dare you look away from this exact thread for less time than it takes to watch an episode of the Simpsons. Clearly this outrage can not be tolerated.

    Don't worry guys I reported mike

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    187mike 1 day ago#59
    matthardyrules posted...
    Mike I don't see you complaining now that Sasha is somehow up by 20 votes haha


    lol why would I be mad I voted for the everybody option
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    187mike 1 day ago#60
    ssjmole posted...
    matthardyrules posted...
    Mike I don't see you complaining now that Sasha is somehow up by 20 votes haha


    What?? He didn't check or respond for a hole 19 minutes!? Yeah @187mike how dare you look away from this exact thread for less time than it takes to watch an episode of the Simpsons. Clearly this outrage can not be tolerated.

    Don't worry guys I reported mike

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    ssjmole 1 day ago#61
    187mike posted...
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    What?? He didn't check or respond for a hole 19 minutes!? Yeah @187mike how dare you look away from this exact thread for less time than it takes to watch an episode of the Simpsons. Clearly this outrage can not be tolerated.

    Don't worry guys I reported mike

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    187mike 1 day ago#62
    Damnit !
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    Lawn_Dart 1 day ago#63
    SaviorGabriel posted...
    I don't give a shit whose at fault. What's done is done, and throwing blame at people isn't gonna do anything to undo the situation. Professional wrestling is a very dangerous sport, and these things happen. It's a really shitty deal for Paige, but she's at least able to live to tell the tale. That's more than I can say for people like Misawa. Everyone who laces up a pair of wrestling boots knows the risks. I would expect everyone on this board to know that same fact too.


    I can't see it's a what's done is done. Sasha will continue wrestling and she's had a history of being too stiff(even w/o resulting injury) and rushing spots.

    The road agents and maybe even the higher ups really do need to have a long sitdown with her and discuss changes going forward.

    She's a great talent but great talent doesn't erase a black cloud of recklessness that has hung on her matches both in regard to her opponents' and her own safety.

    Seth was in a bit of the same situation and he's noticeably toned down himself in the ring(though part of it is the knee injury as well).
    darkus_f 1 day ago#64
    TwinStars posted...
    Injuries happen. It's no ones fault.

    This. Accidents happen. If we're going to give Sasha a hard time, why didn't we give Joe? Or Nakamura? Or Seth? Just leave it be.
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    darkus_f posted...
    TwinStars posted...
    Injuries happen. It's no ones fault.

    This. Accidents happen. If we're going to give Sasha a hard time, why didn't we give Joe? Or Nakamura? Or Seth? Just leave it be.

    All were given a hard time, especially Joe and Seth.
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    ssjmole 1 day ago#66
    nativengine posted...
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    This. Accidents happen. If we're going to give Sasha a hard time, why didn't we give Joe? Or Nakamura? Or Seth? Just leave it be.

    All were given a hard time, especially Joe and Seth.


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    Tupacrulez posted...
    By the logic of some of you, SCSA was to blame for getting his neck broken.
    I voted for everyone but Owen breaking Austin's neck is not the same as this situation.
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    Paige should just become a porn star.
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    vipermckay 1 day ago#69
    Whomever decided to include that spot in the match is at fault. Why put something like that in a match? Should it go wrong **like it did** it would put the wrestler in this case Paige in a dire situation
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    Paige should just become a porn star.

    Nobody gonna pay to see that
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    187mike 1 day ago#73
    Bestoffuture posted...
    I blame 187mike


    It wasn't my fault
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    WWE is entirely at fault they constantly let Paige get away with doing things others would get punished for(not the tapes) and they pushed her way too fast. 

    Once Paige got away from wrestling for awhile eventually she came back while others would have been fired. Now instead of making her pay her dues like anybody else they rush her back to in-ring action despite her damaged neck injury that Paige said her doctor said she should never wrestle again with having in that condition.

    WWE showed zero regard for her health while Paige pushed things too much ultimately WWE is at fault. They saw the dollar signs The Rock making a movie about Paige would be slated for 2018 and sacrificed her safety for future earnings
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    Jigen32 1 day ago#75
    If it wasn't Sasha it probably would've happened sooner or later.
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    Dez316 1 day ago#76
    @187mike I get you have to push your anti-Sasha/Horsewomen agenda but why didn't you put the correct answer in the poll?

    Accidents happen in wrestling and even the smallest of bumps (like this one) can injure people.

    It's pathetic that people feel the need to go around campaigning like they are over a situation like this.
    187mike 1 day ago#77
    Don't be delusional. The correct answer is everybody
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    Fate1021 1 day ago#78
    does the TC even have a job? i swear this guy is on 24/7 and always posting about how much he hates sasha >__>
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    Fate1021 posted...
    does the TC even have a job? i swear this guy is on 24/7 and always posting about how much he hates sasha >__>

    Not entirely. It's about 23 hours a day gushing over Alexa Bliss, and the other hour pushing a weird anti-Horsewomen agenda.
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    187mike 23 hours ago#82
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    Muflaggin 23 hours ago#83
    It's almost like the women are sloppy or something. Anyways shit happens.
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    Zazabar 23 hours ago#84
    Wait, is she actually retiring? tf is this
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    matthardyrules 23 hours ago#86
    187mike posted...
    matthardyrules posted...
    Mike I don't see you complaining now that Sasha is somehow up by 20 votes haha


    lol why would I be mad I voted for the everybody option


    Because you were mad when Paige got a bunch of votes in 5 minutes, but when Sasha got a bunch of votes in 5 minutes it's fine?

    Get a life dood
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    187mike 22 hours ago#87
    matthardyrules posted...
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    lol why would I be mad I voted for the everybody option


    Because you were mad when Paige got a bunch of votes in 5 minutes, but when Sasha got a bunch of votes in 5 minutes it's fine?

    Get a life dood


    Both sides were rigged and I acknowledged that because I didn't limit the poll to one IP. Now its beyond repair
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    juicebox4 22 hours ago#88
    187mike posted...
    But watch Sasha Banks. She puts her entire weight into that mulekick no pun intended. Excessive much?

    this. that bitch doesn't know how to do this job properly. she should be sued tbh. that was obviously gonna fuck anyone up, let alone someone with a neck problem.
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    Knowledge_King 22 hours ago#89
    Didn't vote, but everyone. Sasha kicked her too hard, for knowing she had an injury, Paige for admitting she shouldn't be wrestling, whoever put the match together for making that spot, and WWE doctors for not seeing this happening.
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    Sasha being an unsafe piece of shit. What else is new?


    This, she always looks like a fucking idiot that'll hurt herself or hurt someone else in the fucking ring. Get that pos off the TV and find someone else to be your diva for a certain demographic WWE.
    schizoid37 22 hours ago#91
    This is all obviously a long term ploy by WWE management as retribution for the humiliation caused by Paige's tapes
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    Fate1021 22 hours ago#92
    TashaMK posted...
    Fate1021 posted...
    does the TC even have a job? i swear this guy is on 24/7 and always posting about how much he hates sasha >__>

    Not entirely. It's about 23 hours a day gushing over Alexa Bliss, and the other hour pushing a weird anti-Horsewomen agenda.

    You nailed it.
    AzumaNaroon 22 hours ago#93
    SSJ3Goku222 posted...
    187mike posted...
    Oh look the Sasha alt defense force came and voted Paige all at once


    You only made this topic to try and bash Sasha that's pretty sad


    Lol exactly. Then he spams posts back to back whining about the votes not being overwhelmingly against Sasha (even though right now there's a lot blaming her, but the rest all either equal it out or trump it.)

    Sad topic from a sad troll. 288mike has seen better days.
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    187mike 22 hours ago#94
    Lol you weren't even there.
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    GeneralZhao 22 hours ago#95
    I don't see why freak injuries like these have to be anyone's fault.

    EDIT: The post early on showing the clip b/t Nikki and Carmella had a good point, its virtually impossible to brace yourself for that. Even if Sasha put her whole weight into it, there's no way you can intentionally injure someone like that. Shit happens.
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    kylekillgannon 22 hours ago#96
    GeneralZhao posted...
    I don't see why freak injuries like these have to be anyone's fault


    I don't see why it can't be Sasha's fault in some capacity without being a crime.
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    OZ_Archangel 21 hours ago#97
    sasha for sure that kick was real you see the whiplash and lunged her forward why couldnt she pull the kick and tap her back with her feet so that paige sells the move instead she went full blast hard kicking her
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    Micah_93 21 hours ago#98
    AzumaNaroon posted...
    SSJ3Goku222 posted...
    187mike posted...
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    You only made this topic to try and bash Sasha that's pretty sad


    Lol exactly. Then he spams posts back to back whining about the votes not being overwhelmingly against Sasha (even though right now there's a lot blaming her, but the rest all either equal it out or trump it.)

    Sad topic from a sad troll. 288mike has seen better days.

    Fate1021 posted...
    TashaMK posted...
    Fate1021 posted...
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    Not entirely. It's about 23 hours a day gushing over Alexa Bliss, and the other hour pushing a weird anti-Horsewomen agenda.

    You nailed it.
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    RCP3_04 21 hours ago#99
    Never was a fan, overated as hell and acted like a total b**** on Tough Enough as if she was some kind of freakin legend, it was hilariously cringe, but oh karma...how sweet it is, she was the one who put Patrick aka Velveteen Dream up for elimination, cause of some competitive harmless thing he said to ZZ, and he ended up getting eliminated cause of it, and ZZ didnt even end up winning as it panned out, but here we are today, Patrick still ended up with a contract, debuted as Velveteen Dream, put on a hell of match last year at NXT Takeover with Allestair Black, and his career is set to take off, while Paiges just ended with a whimper, f*** her, she can put her other talents to good use and add to her ever growing collection on the Phub
    RCP3_04 posted...
    Never was a fan, overated as hell and acted like a total b**** on Tough Enough as if she was some kind of freakin legend, it was hilariously cringe, but oh karma...how sweet it is, she was the one who put Patrick aka Velveteen Dream up for elimination, cause of some competitive harmless thing he said to ZZ, and he ended up getting eliminated cause of it, and ZZ didnt even end up winning as it panned out, but here we are today, Patrick still ended up with a contract, debuted as Velveteen Dream, put on a hell of match last year at NXT Takeover with Allestair Black, and his career is set to take off, while Paiges just ended with a whimper, f*** her, she can put her other talents to good use and add to her ever growing collection on the Phub

    How many times are you going to post this
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      ssjmole 21 hours ago#101
      sobergermanguy posted...
      RCP3_04 posted...
      Never was a fan, overated as hell and acted like a total b**** on Tough Enough as if she was some kind of freakin legend, it was hilariously cringe, but oh karma...how sweet it is, she was the one who put Patrick aka Velveteen Dream up for elimination, cause of some competitive harmless thing he said to ZZ, and he ended up getting eliminated cause of it, and ZZ didnt even end up winning as it panned out, but here we are today, Patrick still ended up with a contract, debuted as Velveteen Dream, put on a hell of match last year at NXT Takeover with Allestair Black, and his career is set to take off, while Paiges just ended with a whimper, f*** her, she can put her other talents to good use and add to her ever growing collection on the Phub

      How many times are you going to post this


      My guess is untill people get "triggered by it" just report it and move on
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      187mike 21 hours ago#102
      Lol
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      Anyone who has seen Sasha Banks matches should notice that she rushes all of her spots, and that's her major issue. She goes way too fast and that's why her or her opponents constantly gets hurt or hurts other people. For instance, the reason she hurt Emma was because she rushed to put Emma in the corner for her knee drop and Emma wasn't positioned right. Rather than taking a moment to look at Emma and notice she isn't set up right, she immediately jumped up onto the top rope while Emma desperately tried to fix herself, but Sasha just did the move as fast as she could and tore Emma's shoulder out.

      Sasha is a reckless wrestler and it's obvious.
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      BazzaPersonal 20 hours ago#104
      ^^^

      Like I said, she does shit that’s way out of her league and she (or the other women) pay for her mistakes. She’s trying to wrestle like AJ Styles when she’s in reality a Jinder Mahal.
      ssjmole 20 hours ago#105
      BazzaPersonal posted...
      ^^^

      Like I said, she does shit that’s way out of her league and she (or the other women) pay for her mistakes. She’s trying to wrestle like AJ Styles when she’s in reality a Jinder Mahal.


      See I think that's a tad unfair. I'd see her as a Dolph. A while ago Dolph kept going too fast ect.. and it looked off. It looked dangerous. He's slowed back down now and he's awesome. But Sasha isn't slowing that's the bad part.
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      Black Out 20 hours ago#106
      Goddamn, injury-retirement.
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      blasster 20 hours ago#107
      Sasha Banks is definitely at fault here.
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      187mike 20 hours ago#108
      ssjmole posted...
      BazzaPersonal posted...
      ^^^

      Like I said, she does shit that’s way out of her league and she (or the other women) pay for her mistakes. She’s trying to wrestle like AJ Styles when she’s in reality a Jinder Mahal.


      See I think that's a tad unfair. I'd see her as a Dolph. A while ago Dolph kept going too fast ect.. and it looked off. It looked dangerous. He's slowed back down now and he's awesome. But Sasha isn't slowing that's the bad part.


      I noticed that Sasha Banks has toned down her offense ever since the Emma incident.
      Deal With It
      SaviorGabriel posted...
      I don't give a shit whose at fault. What's done is done, and throwing blame at people isn't gonna do anything to undo the situation. Professional wrestling is a very dangerous sport, and these things happen. It's a really shitty deal for Paige, but she's at least able to live to tell the tale. That's more than I can say for people like Misawa. Everyone who laces up a pair of wrestling boots knows the risks. I would expect everyone on this board to know that same fact too.


      TBF the consensus with Misawa was he should hang them up before the injury. I love the guy for his work but he was both a glory hound and felt the company couldn't succeed without him on the card.
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      187mike 20 hours ago#110
      Sasha Banks is one of the sloppiest faces on the roster. Turn heel. Try to emulate Neville.
      Deal With It
      AzumaNaroon 20 hours ago#111
      HorrorSindicate posted...
      SaviorGabriel posted...
      I don't give a shit whose at fault. What's done is done, and throwing blame at people isn't gonna do anything to undo the situation. Professional wrestling is a very dangerous sport, and these things happen. It's a really shitty deal for Paige, but she's at least able to live to tell the tale. That's more than I can say for people like Misawa. Everyone who laces up a pair of wrestling boots knows the risks. I would expect everyone on this board to know that same fact too.


      TBF the consensus with Misawa was he should hang them up before the injury. I love the guy for his work but he was both a glory hound and felt the company couldn't succeed without him on the card.


      Paige is the same way. This injury didn't come from nowhere. Paige admitted herself on Lilian's podcast that her doctors told her she shouldn't wrestle again. No idea why/how WWE's doctors cleared her. She would've gotten annihilated by someone else some other way if not by Sasha. 

      Misawa was also having issues since the 90s at least. The Young Boys would hold him down and decompress his neck after matches because he was so banged up. It's actually astounding he lasted as long as he did. Still he went out doing what he loved, so while tragic, at least he did what he wanted and had a long great career in spite of going past his prime.
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      pycho316 20 hours ago#112
      BazzaPersonal posted...
      ^^^

      Like I said, she does shit that’s way out of her league and she (or the other women) pay for her mistakes. She’s trying to wrestle like AJ Styles when she’s in reality a Jinder Mahal.


      This is one of the few legitimate criticisms you can level as Sasha in this. She (and all the other women for that matter) are trying to wrestle well above their ability. I do think Sasha is probably the most egregious offender of this too. She tries to do shit that is WAY beyond what she's capable of safely doing. A fucking kick to the back isn't something complicated so it doesn't really apply in the Paige situation but she tries all these real complicated, technical or high risk moves and she nearly kills herself or injures her opponent half the time doing so. 

      These women need to pull their heads out of their own asses and stop smoking the shit that Stephanie McMahon is passing, filling their heads with all this HERstory nonsense and thinking they're as good as the men, cause they're not even close and won't be for some time, if ever. Baby steps. And Sasha is just like "Fuck that, I'm Daniel Bryan" and then botches all the time.
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      187mike 20 hours ago#113
      Sasha Banks bites off way more than she can chew
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      It's legitimately Paige's fault. WWE doctors wanted her to treat her scoliosis and she refused. Paige said as much in the Steve Austin podcast.
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      187mike 19 hours ago#115
      But is it Paige's fault that Sasha Bank put her entire weight into that mule kick?
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      AzumaNaroon 19 hours ago#116
      187mike posted...
      But is it Paige's fault that Sasha Bank put her entire weight into that mule kick?


      I wonder if you'd be reaching this hard if it was Alexa who did the exact same move and Paige got hurt. 

      Of course not, you'd be scrambling for excuses and claiming it's Paige's fault. 

      I'd say it's not anybody's fault since this is pro wrestling and shit happens, but Paige did return sooner than she was meant to, so there's that. But a lot of people have hate-boners for Sasha so they'll just go with blaming her 100% no prob.
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      187mike 19 hours ago#117
      Sasha Banks was at fault too -.-

      I don't know why you guys keep defending her. Stop being irrational
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      llennroc 19 hours ago#118
      Voted ‘everybody’

      This is as 50/50 as possible as far as blame goes.

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      EverDownward 19 hours ago#119
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      187mike posted...
      But is it Paige's fault that Sasha Bank put her entire weight into that mule kick?

      If you have spinal issues in wrestling, it doesn't take much to end your career.

      And it's not ballet. Paige openly tells her opponents to be stiff and give receipts, because Paige also works stiff. Not Sasha's fault at all.
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      Micah_93 19 hours ago#121
      AzumaNaroon posted...
      HorrorSindicate posted...
      SaviorGabriel posted...
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      TBF the consensus with Misawa was he should hang them up before the injury. I love the guy for his work but he was both a glory hound and felt the company couldn't succeed without him on the card.


      Paige is the same way. This injury didn't come from nowhere. Paige admitted herself on Lilian's podcast that her doctors told her she shouldn't wrestle again. No idea why/how WWE's doctors cleared her. She would've gotten annihilated by someone else some other way if not by Sasha. 

      Misawa was also having issues since the 90s at least. The Young Boys would hold him down and decompress his neck after matches because he was so banged up. It's actually astounding he lasted as long as he did. Still he went out doing what he loved, so while tragic, at least he did what he wanted and had a long great career in spite of going past his prime.

      This post is great but will sadly fall on deaf ears. 

      Unintelligence and brazen bias are rife here at PWB. No one is a better example of that than the TC himself, whose sole hobby seems to be spreading misinformation.
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      RCP3_04 18 hours ago#122
      ssjmole posted...
      sobergermanguy posted...
      RCP3_04 posted...
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      How many times are you going to post this


      My guess is untill people get "triggered by it" just report it and move on

      Triggered like you are. Report yourself and move on
      C Redfield 18 hours ago#123
      Sasha I've seen Vader deliver less stiff shots.
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      Sasha... she's a freaking dangerous wrestler.

      This is not the first time she injured somone. Sasha should head to Joshi ... if you want more Stiff wrestling...
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      BazzaPersonal 18 hours ago#125
      Dragonruler9999 posted...
      Sasha... she's a freaking dangerous wrestler.

      This is not the first time she injured somone. Sasha should head to Joshi ... if you want more Stiff wrestling...


      Sasha would get broken in half if she even attempted to wrestle in Japan.
      BazzaPersonal posted...
      Dragonruler9999 posted...
      Sasha... she's a freaking dangerous wrestler.

      This is not the first time she injured somone. Sasha should head to Joshi ... if you want more Stiff wrestling...


      Sasha would get broken in half if she even attempted to wrestle in Japan.


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      Jesus fuck. This board probably has about 50ish people that post on it.

      SO who has that many fucking alts lol
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      TonyRodney 18 hours ago#131
      AzumaNaroon posted...

      I'd say it's not anybody's fault since this is pro wrestling and shit happens, but Paige did return sooner than she was meant to, so there's that. But a lot of people have hate-boners for Sasha so they'll just go with blaming her 100% no prob.

      They do for bliss but if the ssme situation happened i can promise you @Micah_93 would use that as fuel and you yourself probably just wouldn't respond. It may not be anyone's fault but you can most certainly put the blame on sasha. Just because you blame someone doesn't mean you don't understand or can't forgive them. You got micah agreeing with you and you know damn well micah has a horsewomen bias.

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      KingCrabCake 17 hours ago#132
      187mike posted...
      Oh look the Sasha alt defense force came and voted Paige all at once

      Why make a poll if you're going to bitch about results
      Waaaah.
      187mike 17 hours ago#133
      Because the results become inaccurate duh. 

      Now I have no idea which votes are alt votes or not but when I was watching it early on, Paige votes were being entered seconds apart from one another.

      The Sasha votes could be alt votes too but I have no idea now because I wasn't always monitoring the poll
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      KingCrabCake 17 hours ago#134
      187mike posted...
      Because the results become inaccurate duh. 

      Now I have no idea which votes are alt votes or not but when I was watching it early on, Paige votes were being entered seconds apart from one another.

      The Sasha votes could be alt votes too but I have no idea now because I wasn't always monitoring the poll


      Okay bud 👌
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      KingCrabCake posted...
      187mike posted...
      Oh look the Sasha alt defense force came and voted Paige all at once

      Why make a poll if you're going to bitch about results

      its his gimmick
      ArtVandelay 17 hours ago#136
      UltimaterializerX posted...
      It's legitimately Paige's fault

      yeah okay shut the legitimate fuck up.
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      ArtVandelay 17 hours ago#137
      matthardyrules posted...
      Jesus fuck. This board probably has about 50ish people that post on it.

      SO who has that many fucking alts lol

      you're nuts. this is probably one of the top GFQs boards that always has a bunch of mofos on it. it's toxic, but it's popular.
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      ArtVandelay posted...
      matthardyrules posted...
      Jesus fuck. This board probably has about 50ish people that post on it.

      SO who has that many fucking alts lol

      you're nuts. this is probably one of the top GFQs boards that always has a bunch of mofos on it. it's toxic, but it's popular.

      maybe 300
      TeamXtreme415 16 hours ago#139
      If you don't think Sasha is at fault here you're either legitimately blind and cant watch the video, haven't watched the video or wear a helmet everywhere you go.
      BB mofo 16 hours ago#140
      Paige is at fault.

      The doctor warned her not to wrestle. She knows most of all from experience that anything can go wrong in the ring, but she chose to do it anyway. She's seen first hand that the company thinks of their wrestlers as products to be exploited until they break down, at which point they are discarded. 

      Did Paige really think everyone she would wrestle against would treat her any different from anyone else? Hell, I would be pissed she chose to come back injured if I had to wrestle against her because that would put added pressure on me.

      I also think Kurt Angle is a moron for the same reasons.
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      SGame 15 hours ago#142
      Whoever said it was ok for her to wrestle. You can’t blame Sasha for Paige not being fully healed. Every knows wrestling is physical and you take lots of bumps
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      TeamXtreme415 14 hours ago#143
      BB mofo posted...
      Paige is at fault.

      The doctor warned her not to wrestle. She knows most of all from experience that anything can go wrong in the ring, but she chose to do it anyway. She's seen first hand that the company thinks of their wrestlers as products to be exploited until they break down, at which point they are discarded. 

      Did Paige really think everyone she would wrestle against would treat her any different from anyone else? Hell, I would be pissed she chose to come back injured if I had to wrestle against her because that would put added pressure on me.

      I also think Kurt Angle is a moron for the same reasons.


      Did she think someone wouldn’t double kick her as hard as they could in the back? Probably.
      musumane 13 hours ago#144
      Sasha - For physically doing the move a bit too quick

      Paige - For rushing back after doctors told her not to wrestle anymore

      Match Agents - For deciding a mule kick to the back on a person with a bad neck was a good idea
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      musumane posted...
      Sasha - For physically doing the move a bit too quick

      lol
      AzumaNaroon 11 hours ago#146
      For what it's worth regarding the "alts" situation... I remember looking at the results of several polls I made here and a couple of them had a ton of votes, definitely way more than there are people who post here. But I think that just means there's a lot of smart people who lurk here rather than posting because they have common sense and aren't full-on masochists.
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      PyramidHead88 10 hours ago#147
      No one is at fault really. That kick spot was stupid considering Paige's neck issues but it was probably hanging by a thread. Was bound to happen sooner or later. She's been wrestling since she was 13 or so. I can't imagine bumping around in a wrestling ring before your body is fully developed does you any favours.
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      the spot shouldn't have been in the match in the first place, so probably everyone involved unless Sasha just winged it without asking anyone
      187mike 3 hours ago#149
      That spot is probably going to get banned.
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      GhettoMF 1 hour ago#150
      Patrick52Willis posted...
      ItsChristian posted...
      Sasha being an unsafe piece of shit. What else is new?


      This, she always looks like a fucking idiot that'll hurt herself or hurt someone else in the fucking ring. Get that pos off the TV and find someone else to be your diva for a certain demographic WWE.


      Certain demographic eh? And this is supposed to mean what exactly.....
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