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With Cena having been gone for so long, Reigns has overtaken him for the No. 1 spot in merchandise sales. It’s weird how news like this will make people so upset and then go into denial. There’s a reason they’re still strong on him as the company’s centerpiece despite crowd reactions. Really, there was a time when Cena was getting booed out of every television taping and his merch sales were through the roof, and he was outdrawing everyone on house shows by a substantial margin, and that point was probably when Vince McMahon stopped paying attention to top faces getting booed. Cena missed his first SummerSlam this weekend as he’s in China doing a movie with Jackie Chan Link to this week's observer (subscription needed): https://members.f4wonline.com/wrestling-observer-newsletter/august-27-2018-wrestling-observer-newsletter-summerslam-and-nxt
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Impossible. A random nobody on gamefaqs with no ties to the buisness who calls WWE "the fed" and most likely has no job , told me "nobody likes Roman reigns" and insist that the gate for him is "100% real"
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OurLadyPeace posted...
nwo_4_lyfe724 posted...He outsells a semi retired wrestler. Good for him. Maybe the boos are piped in. To curb the high demand of merchandise. Justin Credible can only work so many hours.
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Wells that's bad considering Cena has been a part timer since.....2016/2017?
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Coca-Cola posted...
Big deal, anyone being pushed and protected to this extreme would be just as successful. No it's lies remember everyone hates reigns. So the numbers must be wrong. You don't buy merch of a guy you hate
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OurLadyPeace posted...He's only number 1 because that's all they sell at house shows!* Because I've been to multiple house shows and Raw and SmackDowns and they have a pretty decent variety of wrestling merch. Hell, last show I went to had those tacky ass B Team shirts.
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nwo_4_lyfe724 posted...
OurLadyPeace posted...nwo_4_lyfe724 posted...show hidden quote(s) John Cena has been the #1 merchandise seller for over a decade. I don't even like Reigns but how isn't it a big deal that Reigns has become the guy to finally snap that?
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Janpei posted...
dbf50 posted...OurLadyPeace posted...show hidden quote(s) This is true. At least the ones in UK. They have lot of merch even from people not there. Last one I went too I got a event top , untertaker top and a Seth Rollins shirt
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MasterFoxCheif3 posted...
Wells that's bad considering Cena has been a part timer since.....2016/2017? Part of over taking Cena to be the top merch seller also means he outsells everyone else too. So like...
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I like that there are people who think it's unimpressive that Reigns is outselling Cena because Cena has been a part timer for the last two and a half years.
If that's the position you're going to take, that means your favorite wrestlers are also selling less than a part time worker. Lmao.
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Janpei posted...
If that's the position you're going to take, that means your favorite wrestlers are also selling less than a part time worker. Lmao My favourite is a part timer 😂😂 every event I go to I get event shirt , some undertaker merch as he's always been my favourite and then a random current starving like going all the way back to when undertaker and current star was the same catagory 😂 I loved our UK ppvs.
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OurLadyPeace posted...He's only number 1 because that's all they sell at house shows!* It’s not true because they sell more than Reigns merch at house shows. They have the same merch booths set up at those as they do any other Raw event.
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Janpei posted...
dbf50 posted...OurLadyPeace posted...show hidden quote(s) I haven't been to any WWE live events in about 2 years, but the featured merch is usually what WWE wants.
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Janpei posted...dbf50 posted...show hidden quote(s) A shop only sells the merchandise they approved of? 😳 This changes everything!!!!
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I mean, to a degree, it is "manufactured", though. Most people buying merch at a show, itself, are probably buying stuff for their kids, and kids are an easy market. They'll basically buy into whatever WWE is selling. Push Cena, they want Cena. Push Roman, they want Roman. So, of course Roman's merch is an easy sell, because it's easy to sell to kids.
What bugs me is that kids shouldn't be the ONLY demographic that matters. Yes, WWE is "family friendly", but this isn't a Saturday morning cartoon. There's a wide demographic, and it's silly to go all in on the guy who happens to appeal mostly to children at the expense of everyone else. It's not like pushing others as Roman's equals is going to kill merch sales. So why does there have to only be ONE "top guy"? Just seems dumb. |
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Janpei posted...
nwo_4_lyfe724 posted...OurLadyPeace posted...show hidden quote(s) Because its not like he did it while cena was still a full time performer. So no its not as big of a deal.
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Now imagine how much more merch they could have sold if they pushed someone to the moon that the fanbase was less divided on. Isn't that the issue with the vocal minority booing Reigns? If those guys get the sense the feeling that someone is being pushed as the new 'chosen one', they will reject them?
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OurLadyPeace posted...
JustMyOpinion posted...Now imagine how much more merch they could have sold if they pushed someone to the moon that the fanbase was less divided on. Possibly. Depends who they push and if it develops organically. Imagine if they pushed Seth as the top guy instead of Roman. The IWC would probably complain less and buy more stuff. Kids probably wouldn't care either way. They like who they're told to like.
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ssjmole posted...
Impossible. A random nobody on gamefaqs with no ties to the buisness who calls WWE "the fed" and most likely has no job , told me "nobody likes Roman reigns" and insist that the gate for him is "100% real" Talking about yourself there?
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Coca-Cola posted...Big deal, anyone being pushed and protected to this extreme would be just as successful. No, you don't. But factor in, that it's a child's show. Parents are buying the crap for their kid. Factor in, Parents don't really WATCH the show. And their child probably doesn't even really LIKE Reigns. But no, he outsells everyone so he's liked. This board, I swear.
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ssjmole posted...Impossible. A random nobody on gamefaqs with no ties to the buisness who calls WWE "the fed" and most likely has no job , told me "nobody likes Roman reigns" and insist that the gate for him is "100% real" I never call WWE the fed , have a job and like reigns and think a lot of his hate is meme hate. So only the posting on gamefaqs .. but okay . Your trying something , it didn't work. Props for trying let's move on. Okay?
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Iwin2013 posted...
ssjmole posted...Coca-Cola posted...show hidden quote(s) I'd like to see numbers and statistics to back up this hypothesis Otherwise it's just a meaningless claim made by bitter internet nerds
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Iwin2013 posted...
ssjmole posted...Coca-Cola posted...show hidden quote(s) It doesn't mention anywhere that all his .etch is just kids. You're reaching.
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Dynedux posted...
For speculation you sure framed it matter-of-factly Read it, however you choose. Point is, he's majorly boo'ed. Ratings sink with him as champion. They delayed him winning the belt cause of crowd reaction. But he's a draw? He's a merch pusher? I'd like to see the breakdown if there is any.
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Iwin2013 posted...
Dynedux posted...Ratings sink with him as champion? Can I have numbers that prove this or are we basing this off of a loose correlation from literally 2+ years ago? That didn't stop you from making the claim. Strange.
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Well considering the last time, he was champion was like 2 years ago. Yes, basing it off of that. I'll post ratings here when and if they sink again. Where am I gonna get numbers if he hasn't been champion? Go troll somewhere else if you're tryna to troll me. Maybe you and @ssjmole can wear helmets and join the special Olympics
That didn't stop you from making the claim. Strange.
Two year ago numbers. If it's the same, then he's not the draw that you think he is. Next week's raw, I will post the following ratings.MAGA 2020Iwin2013 posted...Dynedux posted...
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That didn't stop you from making the claim. Strange.
Two year ago numbers. If it's the same, then he's not the draw that you think he is. Next week's raw, I will post the following ratings.
What's the correlation that he caused ratings to sink? Because he was champion? So in this day and age literally one person makes or breaks ratings?The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeantIwin2013 posted...ssjmole posted...
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No it's lies remember everyone hates reigns. So the numbers must be wrong. You don't buy merch of a guy you hate
No, you don't. But factor in, that it's a child's show. Parents are buying the crap for their kid. Factor in, Parents don't really WATCH the show. And their child probably doesn't even really LIKE Reigns. But no, he outsells everyone so he's liked. This board, I swear.
Their child doesn't really like Reigns but asks their parents to buy his merch anyway.
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John Cena has been the #1 merchandise seller for over a decade. I don't even like Reigns but how isn't it a big deal that Reigns has become the guy to finally snap that?
Because its not like he did it while cena was still a full time performer. So no its not as big of a deal.
Then it is a big deal that Styles, Bryan, Seth, etc. aren't moving more merch than a part time performer. I'm just using your logic.A board for armchair bookers
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1453-pro-wrestling-be-the-bookerJanpei posted...Iwin2013 posted...
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No, you don't. But factor in, that it's a child's show. Parents are buying the crap for their kid. Factor in, Parents don't really WATCH the show. And their child probably doesn't even really LIKE Reigns. But no, he outsells everyone so he's liked. This board, I swear.
Their child doesn't really like Reigns but asks their parents to buy his merch anyway.
Really? That's the angle you're going with? Lmao.
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http://www.wwe.com/superstars/stephanie-mcmahonOurLadyPeace posted...No one likes Reigns! Except the people who do like him, but they don't really like him. And being number 1 merch seller is no big deal because someone else could hypothetically, under the right circumstances, sell more.
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No, you don't. But factor in, that it's a child's show. Parents are buying the crap for their kid. Factor in, Parents don't really WATCH the show. And their child probably doesn't even really LIKE Reigns. But no, he outsells everyone so he's liked. This board, I swear.
Their child doesn't really like Reigns but asks their parents to buy his merch anyway.
Really? That's the angle you're going with? Lmao.
You didn’t understand my point. Parents usually buy their kids crap related to their favorite shows without actually buying the actual fan favorite. For example, when I was 10 years old, Stone Cold was on top. My parents who stopped watching, bought me Rock and Taker shirts. I didn’t want Rock and Taker. Even though, I’m more of a fan now than I was then. I wanted Stone Cold. That’s my point.MAGA 2020Iwin2013 posted...Janpei posted...
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Their child doesn't really like Reigns but asks their parents to buy his merch anyway.
Really? That's the angle you're going with? Lmao.
You didn’t understand my point. Parents usually buy their kids crap related to their favorite shows without actually buying the actual fan favorite. For example, when I was 10 years old, Stone Cold was on top. My parents who stopped watching, bought me Rock and Taker shirts. I didn’t want Rock and Taker. Even though, I’m more of a fan now than I was then. I wanted Stone Cold. That’s my point.
So you're saying only kids get Roman merch because their parents buy it for them but the kids actually want Seth Rollins and AJ Styles merch? Is that your point?The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeantIZimbra posted...Ratings are an outdated metric of success, and since WWE has never been this successful, it’s time you and others stopped using them to justify your opinion.
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Two year ago numbers. If it's the same, then he's not the draw that you think he is. Next week's raw, I will post the following ratings.
What's the correlation that he caused ratings to sink? Because he was champion? So in this day and age literally one person makes or breaks ratings?
Literally, wrestling stopped being “cool.” When all the old timers started retiring. But in the old times, they blamed the ratings on their draws at the time. Gate, Ratings, Merch sales.MAGA 2020Dynedux posted...Iwin2013 posted...
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You didn’t understand my point. Parents usually buy their kids crap related to their favorite shows without actually buying the actual fan favorite. For example, when I was 10 years old, Stone Cold was on top. My parents who stopped watching, bought me Rock and Taker shirts. I didn’t want Rock and Taker. Even though, I’m more of a fan now than I was then. I wanted Stone Cold. That’s my point.
So you're saying only kids get Roman merch because their parents buy it for them but the kids actually want Seth Rollins and AJ Styles merch? Is that your point?
Never said Styles or Rollins. Never stated any Indy darling. I just stated that’s the likely scenario. If you don’t believe me, ask people on the street who the fuck Roman Reigns is. They won’t know whom he is. Ask who the fuck John Cena is. Undertaker. Triple H.MAGA 2020Iwin2013 posted...Janpei posted...
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Their child doesn't really like Reigns but asks their parents to buy his merch anyway.
Really? That's the angle you're going with? Lmao.
You didn’t understand my point. Parents usually buy their kids crap related to their favorite shows without actually buying the actual fan favorite. For example, when I was 10 years old, Stone Cold was on top. My parents who stopped watching, bought me Rock and Taker shirts. I didn’t want Rock and Taker. Even though, I’m more of a fan now than I was then. I wanted Stone Cold. That’s my point.
That's such a fucking reach lol.
I liked Goldberg when I was in 4th grade. I asked for Goldberg shirts. I got Billy Gunn instead.
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1453-pro-wrestling-be-the-bookerJanpei posted...nwo_4_lyfe724 posted...
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Because its not like he did it while cena was still a full time performer. So no its not as big of a deal.
Then it is a big deal that Styles, Bryan, Seth, etc. aren't moving more merch than a part time performer. I'm just using your logic.
No, because they arent being put in that john cena spot like roman. Its literally the new cena is finally outselling the old cena who now works a couple months a year.
Where CM Punk actually started outselling Cena while Cena was still a full time main event superstar. You see how thats different or are you really that dumb?I am better than you.I think it is much more likely that you invented reasons for the hypothesis you've presented that can neither be proven or disproven, un-testable, which makes it all a giant waste of time.
But what we do know is Roman is a (or the) top merch seller. Whatever boogeyman reason you want to fabricate as to why that is is just denying the truth presented.The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeantDynedux posted...I think it is much more likely that you invented reasons for the hypothesis you've presented that can neither be proven or disproven, un-testable, which makes it all a giant waste of time.
But what we do know is Roman is a (or the) top merch seller. Whatever boogeyman reason you want to fabricate as to why that is is just denying the truth presented.
Like companies don’t fabericate sales. Y’all dumb as rocks.MAGA 2020Iwin2013 posted...Dynedux posted...
I think it is much more likely that you invented reasons for the hypothesis you've presented that can neither be proven or disproven, un-testable, which makes it all a giant waste of time.
But what we do know is Roman is a (or the) top merch seller. Whatever boogeyman reason you want to fabricate as to why that is is just denying the truth presented.
Like companies don’t fabericate sales. Y’all dumb as rocks.
Ok, let's see some numbers.The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeantIwin2013 posted...Dynedux posted...
I think it is much more likely that you invented reasons for the hypothesis you've presented that can neither be proven or disproven, un-testable, which makes it all a giant waste of time.
But what we do know is Roman is a (or the) top merch seller. Whatever boogeyman reason you want to fabricate as to why that is is just denying the truth presented.
Like companies don’t fabericate sales. Y’all dumb as rocks.
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Then it is a big deal that Styles, Bryan, Seth, etc. aren't moving more merch than a part time performer. I'm just using your logic.
No, because they arent being put in that john cena spot like roman. Its literally the new cena is finally outselling the old cena who now works a couple months a year.
Where CM Punk actually started outselling Cena while Cena was still a full time main event superstar. You see how thats different or are you really that dumb?
So by your own statement, you admit that Rollins, Bryan, Styles, etc are selling less than Roman who is, by the way, a full time worker.
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1453-pro-wrestling-be-the-bookerJanpei posted...John Cena has been the #1 merchandise seller for over a decade. I don't even like Reigns but how isn't it a big deal that Reigns has become the guy to finally snap that?
Cena got squashed at WM and hasn't been seen for 4 months. Reigns needing that to happen to win in sales after being pushed nonstop for 4 years is pathetic.Official Gardevoir and Gothitelle denier of the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate boards.
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John Cena has been the #1 merchandise seller for over a decade. I don't even like Reigns but how isn't it a big deal that Reigns has become the guy to finally snap that?
Cena got squashed at WM and hasn't been seen for 4 months. Reigns needing that to happen to win in sales after being pushed nonstop for 4 years is pathetic.
Which makes AJ Styles, Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Daniel Bryan and all of the other smark favorites more pathetic for not only selling less than Cena, still, but also selling less than Roman?The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeantDem sales are piped in m i rite smarks?PrivateBiscuit1 posted...I think a big part of this is that Roman also gets about five times the amount of merch made for him than anyone else, just like Cena did.
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I think a big part of this is that Roman also gets about five times the amount of merch made for him than anyone else, just like Cena did.
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I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV!Yeah that definitely skews things in his favor, like Cena, but it is a considerable feat to outsell the new day as not only are they almost universally loved but also have a dump truck load of merch.The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeantnwo_4_lyfe724 posted...Where did i ever claim they werent are you fuckin stupid? Im only addressing Reigns vs Cena i never mentioned any of those people.
No but you said you're not impressed that he's outselling a part time...who, by the way, is outselling everyone else on the roster.
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1453-pro-wrestling-be-the-bookerPrivateBiscuit1 posted...I think a big part of this is that Roman also gets about five times the amount of merch made for him than anyone else, just like Cena did.
Not true. Go look at the WWE Shop site:
Roman - 68 items
Rollins - 59 items
Cena - 45 items
Alexa - 67 items
Styles - 81 items
Balor - 78 itemsPSN - NesraegatVoidwards posted...Not true. Go look at the WWE Shop site:
Roman - 68 items
Rollins - 59 items
Cena - 45 items
Alexa - 67 items
Styles - 81 items
Balor 78 items
This makes sense. Styles has the gloves, too, and probably some other gear (maybe his armband?)
I was at Summerslam and surprised at the wide variety and styles of merch they had for wrestlers. There's like 5 Seth Rollins shirts I've never seen before. But I never buy WWE merch so IDK.
Anyway I agree that it's silly to throw all these qualifiers in for Reigns but no one else. The man sells merch. No point in whining about it.And everything I say is calculated appropriated written and arranged in Feng Shui.Voidwards posted...PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I think a big part of this is that Roman also gets about five times the amount of merch made for him than anyone else, just like Cena did.
Not true. Go look at the WWE Shop site:
Roman - 68 items
Rollins - 59 items
Cena - 45 items
Alexa - 67 items
Styles - 81 items
Balor - 78 items
How much does Ronda have ? Shes not even been a year and I own 5 tops and other merch. I don't think as .any as those but curiousNot changing signature until Stephanie McMahon wins the raw women's title.
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How is it not true, again?
Because I've been to multiple house shows and Raw and SmackDowns and they have a pretty decent variety of wrestling merch. Hell, last show I went to had those tacky ass B Team shirts.
And even then if all they sold were reigns merch and you didn't like it you wouldn't buy it. Selling only reigns gear would backfire if that were true. If people truly hated the big dawg stuff they wouldn't buy it. People just don't wanna give reigns credit.true megaman fan and CFE Ingrid fan- Boards
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Mightymega posted...And even then if all they sold were reigns merch and you didn't like it you wouldn't buy it. Selling only reigns gear would backfire if that were true. If people truly hated the big dawg stuff they wouldn't buy it. People just don't wanna give reigns credit.
Not to mention that if that were truly the case we wouldn't hear the end of it. People would be complaining non-stop about how there is just Roman merch at the events. But that is just not the case.PSN - NesraegatMightymega posted...Janpei posted...
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Because I've been to multiple house shows and Raw and SmackDowns and they have a pretty decent variety of wrestling merch. Hell, last show I went to had those tacky ass B Team shirts.
And even then if all they sold were reigns merch and you didn't like it you wouldn't buy it. Selling only reigns gear would backfire if that were true. If people truly hated the big dawg stuff they wouldn't buy it. People just don't wanna give reigns credit.
Have you not been to the smark meetings?
They sell nothing but Reigns stuff so no one else can sell anything and then they used those sales numbers to justify Roman's push. Why WWE have to justify this to themselves, I'm not sure but if you don't keep up with this stuff, you'll have to hand in your smark card.Pixel Noir. Coming soon to PC/Mac/Linux/PS4/PS Vita/Xbox OneSuspiria posted...Cena has had his merch sales surpassed by other people several times already. Which shows the whole 'we have to push Cena cuz merch sales!' argument from WWE and apologists alike was always bullshit and had more to do with inner politics more than anything.
And no evidence was shown at all... You stay making B.S posts. @Suspiria Then you go on to call anyone an apologist when you can't ever debate to save your life.true megaman fan and CFE Ingrid fanMightymega posted...Janpei posted...
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Because I've been to multiple house shows and Raw and SmackDowns and they have a pretty decent variety of wrestling merch. Hell, last show I went to had those tacky ass B Team shirts.
And even then if all they sold were reigns merch and you didn't like it you wouldn't buy it. Selling only reigns gear would backfire if that were true. If people truly hated the big dawg stuff they wouldn't buy it. People just don't wanna give reigns credit.
That's the other thing that just blows my mind about this nonsense. If Reigns merch was the only thing they sold at live events, people wouldn't just go "Uhh...they don't have any *insert favorite wrestler* shirts. I guess I'll buy this Reigns shirt since I've already been in line this long"A board for armchair bookers
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1453-pro-wrestling-be-the-bookerJanpei posted...nwo_4_lyfe724 posted...
Where did i ever claim they werent are you fuckin stupid? Im only addressing Reigns vs Cena i never mentioned any of those people.
No but you said you're not impressed that he's outselling a part time...who, by the way, is outselling everyone else on the roster.
Do you not understand why that makes you sound like a complete dolt?
B-e-c-a-u-s-e h-e i-s i-n t-h-e C-e-n-a s-p-o-tI am better than you.Janpei posted..."Uhh...they don't have any *insert favorite wrestler* shirts. I guess I'll buy this Reigns shirt since I've already been in line this long"
😂😂 It's sad that's what they think thoughNot changing signature until Stephanie McMahon wins the raw women's title.
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/stephanie-mcmahonnwo_4_lyfe724 posted...Janpei posted...
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No but you said you're not impressed that he's outselling a part time...who, by the way, is outselling everyone else on the roster.
Do you not understand why that makes you sound like a complete dolt?
B-e-c-a-u-s-e h-e i-s i-n t-h-e C-e-n-a s-p-o-t
AJ Styles has been WWE Champion since October 2017. To date, he has a positive win/loss record against Cena and has been the face of SmackDown since the brand split.
Cena is still pushing more merch than he is...A board for armchair bookers
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- Pro Wrestling: WWE
- WON: Reigns has overtaken Cena for the No. 1 spot in WWE merchandise sales
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