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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/965108054873145346
I gotta agree with him on this one, I haven't seen a WWE shirt since the Attitude Era but I see people wearing Bullet Club merch everywhere. You'd think the "big leagues" would have it together better than a group of guys in their late 20's/early 30's when it comes to branding.
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This is such a mark thing to say
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sobergermanguy posted...
This is such a mark thing to say He's right though, even at WWE shows there are more people wearing Bullet Club merch than anything they're selling.
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Isn't wwe's number source of sales their store? I have few shirts on there preordered likemy Ronda shirt.
It's like saying psvita has made pc games second rate in shops. It's technically true vita sold more in store but pc sells alit more through steam
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What? People in their 20s/30s are fantastic about branding right now, primarily because they are the people they’re marketing to. Very rarely do corporations actually “get” what’s cool, which is why they’re usually too late to the party.
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Hot Topic is gonna go out of business soon. Bullet Club shirts ain’t selling like they used to.
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One mall store in Hot topic chose to prioritize BC over WWE...
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sobergermanguy posted...
This is such a mark thing to say Bro let me tell you bro, this guy bro, he cares too much about fake wrestling bro, I love basball man, I love Baseball more than anyone else bro, but I'm not looking up Japense baseball stats bro or finding out where baseball merch sells bro. He's such a mark bro.
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codey posted...
What? People in their 20s/30s are fantastic about branding right now, primarily because they are the people they’re marketing to. Very rarely do corporations actually “get” what’s cool, which is why they’re usually too late to the party. Very true. All of WWE's decisions are made by a 80 year old man and it shows in their product as well as their tacky merchandise. Bullet Club has their finger on the pulse of what wrestling fans want.
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Dave Meltzer most likely gets his clothes from Jacamo so I don't think he is in a position to give an opinion on fashion.
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BaronNugget posted...
Dave Meltzer most likely gets his clothes from Jacamo so I don't think he is in a position to give an opinion on fashion. He didnt. He gave an opinion on sales.
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The Bullet Club shirts look like real shirts people would plausibly wear outside of a wrestling event. That's why. Especially Jericho's "Alpha Club," shirt.
Heath Slaters' "I need this job. I have kids," t-shirt was a great one for example. Anyone could wear that without the context being completely wrestling related. And WWE just moved them onto RAW and dropped that story. |
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I've only ever seen one WWE shirt in my whole life. It was the Daniel Bryan "Respect the Beard" shirt. Some asian kid was wearing it.
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I really wonder how many people buy Bullet Club t-shirts there and just like the design ands look. How many have no interest in professional wrestling?
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People in the crowd, particularly the ones you see on camera and at the front, are such a small pool and a very specific demographic.
You'd think Roman Reigns was incredibly unpopular going by them, but kids especially are fucking insane for him. He's like their Undertaker, so cool and big and strong.
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I refuse to buy WWE shirts because of that stupid tag they put on the bottom.
It's fucking hideous and ruins any good designs they come up with.
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Sada_Pop posted...
I really wonder how many people buy Bullet Club t-shirts there and just like the design ands look. How many have no interest in professional wrestling? Jesus Christ, you WWE marks are in denial, LOL. You truly can't handle something being more popular than WWE.
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TrulyEpicLawls posted...
People in the crowd, particularly the ones you see on camera and at the front, are such a small pool and a very specific demographic. Go back and look at the last Wrestlemania crowd, there are far, far more Bullet Club shirts than WWE shirts, and Wrestlemania is the show for casual fans so don't give me that "only hardcore fans like them!" cop out.
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DizzyTechno posted...
Sada_Pop posted...I really wonder how many people buy Bullet Club t-shirts there and just like the design ands look. How many have no interest in professional wrestling? NJPW isn't more popular than WWE.... so how the fuck do you think Bullet Club is? LMAO
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If WWE really wanted to sell T-Shirts, they should bring in the master of sales Don West. Guy literally could sell sand to Egyptians.
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MegatokyoEd posted...
I refuse to buy WWE shirts because of that stupid tag they put on the bottom. This. Lol. Also most of WWEs designs look embarrassing.
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Maze_ posted...
BaronNugget posted...Dave Meltzer most likely gets his clothes from Jacamo so I don't think he is in a position to give an opinion on fashion. Meh like I said he probably shops at Jacamo so I don't think he can call anything second rate
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Via_Negativa posted...
DizzyTechno posted...Sada_Pop posted...show hidden quote(s) Might not be more popular than WWE itself but they're certainly a hotter act than any full timers in WWE.
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Probably because BC>WWE🔫🔫
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DizzyTechno posted...
Sada_Pop posted...I really wonder how many people buy Bullet Club t-shirts there and just like the design ands look. How many have no interest in professional wrestling? Again is it? As again WWE gets most of its sales from its store. Compare of games sold at GameStop vs steam. Your reaching , you know your reaching.
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lol this is so fucking stupid. people who point to hot topic miss the point. hot topic is the primary place to buy their merch in the states. thats not the case with wwe. if you have 5 places to buy bullet club shirts and 50 stores to buy wwe, you arent going to get an accurate reflection of what is selling more based on just one fucking store. this isnt rocket science. if one store sells 50 bullet club shirts a day and 20 stores sell 5 wwe shirts a piece a day, you arent going to point to bullet club and say they sell more shirts.
of course smarks will ignore this and go lol bullet club is more popular. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=Bullet%20Club%20Shirts,WWE%20Shirts bullet club has a damn good shirt and most wwe shirts are ugly pieces of shit with about 2 minutes of thought put into them. that doesnt change anything. lol at meltzer for being this dumb. |
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Babirusa posted...
lol this is so fucking stupid. people who point to hot topic miss the point. hot topic is the primary place to buy their merch in the states. thats not the case with wwe. if you have 5 places to buy bullet club shirts and 50 stores to buy wwe, you arent going to get an accurate reflection of what is selling more based on just one fucking store. this isnt rocket science. if one store sells 50 bullet club shirts a day and 20 stores sell 5 wwe shirts a piece a day, you arent going to point to bullet club and say they sell more shirts. NOOOOOOOOOO facts! You can't post those. Don't you know this the anti-wwe board gotta make up stuff to say WWE us doooooom'd
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People who I know for a fact don’t watch NJPW, or even WWE, have recognized Bullet Club shirts when I wear them.
Might be the Hot Topic effect.
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MegatokyoEd posted...
People who I know for a fact don’t watch NJPW, or even WWE, have recognized Bullet Club shirts when I wear them. Probably because they are in stuff like tekken ect... Too. It's like twilight. I wasn't a fan but recognised stufffrom it as it kept getting put in other stuff
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MegatokyoEd posted...
People who I know for a fact don’t watch NJPW, or even WWE, have recognized Bullet Club shirts when I wear them. It's like with Austin 3:16 or NWO, Bullet Club has transcended professional wrestling and entered the modern cultural zeitgeist.
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WWE shirts have been god awful for like 10 years.
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DizzyTechno posted...
sobergermanguy posted...This is such a mark thing to say Giants worry not about the business of midgets
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DizzyTechno posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...People who I know for a fact don’t watch NJPW, or even WWE, have recognized Bullet Club shirts when I wear them. Comparing them nWo 😂 you njpw fanboys are so ridiculous
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Bullet Club has blasted off and become massive, but that doesn't mean NJPW made WWE merch second rate. Bullet Club has kind transcended the company. Yes they are owned by New Japan, but it's not like LIJ or Okada merchandise are putting WWE to shame, it's just BC.
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I feel like some people are just looking at the topic title rather than reading the full tweet. Meltzer isn't saying BC shirts flat out sell more numbers overall than WWE shirts. The tweet specifically quantifies his statement as pertaining to merch sold in third party stores. And in fairness, to my knowledge, WWE doesn't really put much merch in third party stores. I think they used to let places like K-Mart and maybe Hot Topic sell some of their merch, but I don't know if that happens that much anymore. As far as I know, the primary places they sell their stuff is through their online store and at their own live events.
Either way, I don't get why there are WWE "diehards" here that are so bothered by BC being a hot, popular brand. Is it doing "WWE numbers"? I mean, probably not, but who cares? WWE isn't the be all, end all, and it's incredibly impressive that anyone has managed to create such a successful brand outside of WWE, and not only that, but for it to be something that has already lasted so many years and will probably continue to exist in some capacity for years to come.
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MRW1215 posted...
Is it doing "WWE numbers"? I mean, probably not, but who cares? . Because that's how it's been presented. It's just people are shooting down the lie with the truth. Is that so bad?
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MRW1215 posted...
I think they used to let places like K-Mart and maybe Hot Topic sell some of their merch, but I don't know if that happens that much anymore. Hot Topic still sells WWE shirts. Well, they try to anyway, not a single WWE shirt in the Top 500 Best Sellers.
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i actually had a dream last night that I went to a night club wearing a Bullet Club shirt. swear to god in heaven
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DizzyTechno posted...
https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/965108054873145346 WWE is way too corporate, which hurts it because corporations rarely know whats cool. I mean they think flashing text across the screen like this was a Truth commercial is fucking cool. The last WWE shirts I have seen randomly in public are Daniel Bryan shirts and WWE hates him.. I have to agree with Dave on this one.
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ssjmole posted...
But who really liked? Sure, TC hyperbolized the quote a bit, but again, the full Meltzer quote is not necessarily wrong. But, if you're just beefing with Dizzy, I don't really care about that, so refrain from involving me in whatever you have going on with that.
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This Dave Meltzer guy, he’s always saying something. Does he ever just you know, shut up? Just wondering.
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ssjmole posted... Not beefing. I agree original tweet is not that. My issue is people twisting that to say WWE doesn't sell anything and if some corrects it then it's WWE mark or WWE diehard .... Over the truth Like if I posted say sky office numbers of ppvs only to say no wrestling but WWE sells , people should absolutely go "stop misleading" that's my issue.
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Dos_Pac posted...
This Dave Meltzer guy, he’s always saying something. Does he ever just you know, shut up? Just wondering. He's literally answering a question he was asked, you triggered little mark.
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DizzyTechno posted...
Dos_Pac posted...This Dave Meltzer guy, he’s always saying something. Does he ever just you know, shut up? Just wondering. How am I triggered, I’m just curious? I just know every other topic I see is Dave Meltzer says this and Dave Meltzer says that. Kinda reminds me of that Rugrats episode w/ the lipchitz or hower you spell it. Woah, it might be my destiny to finally meet this Dave Meltzer guy everyone keeps talking about.
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DizzyTechno posted...
Dos_Pac posted...This Dave Meltzer guy, he’s always saying something. Does he ever just you know, shut up? Just wondering. did he answer it like... "So so so so so.... it's like... it's like"?
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Lol I've never seen a single person wearing any kind of merch, anywhere. Ever. Unless at a wrestling event.
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VicVinegar posted...
Lol I've never seen a single person wearing any kind of merch, anywhere. Ever. Unless at a wrestling event. I’ve seen a BC shirt in Chicago and a TNA shirt in the UK back in 08
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VicVinegar posted...Lol I've never seen a single person wearing any kind of merch, anywhere. Ever. Unless at a wrestling event.
BC merch is fairly common just being out and about.LightSnake: "Sigh....I might've been wrong about a lot this time."
Terra-enforcer: "You were right. I was wrong. I'm a filthy welcher."Muflaggin posted...VicVinegar posted...
Lol I've never seen a single person wearing any kind of merch, anywhere. Ever. Unless at a wrestling event.
BC merch is fairly common just being out and about.
That's what OP was pretending thoVic Vinegar. Bodyguard. I don't shake hands.VicVinegar posted...Lol I've never seen a single person wearing any kind of merch, anywhere. Ever. Unless at a wrestling event.
i live by a high school and drive to work while they are going into school and i see a bunch of BC shirtsThe night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench.
Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content.VicVinegar posted...Lol I've never seen a single person wearing any kind of merch, anywhere. Ever. Unless at a wrestling event.
I’ve seen elementary aged kids wear wwe shirts.PSN: Dos_Pac1980 "I'm Batman" officially
Super Mario Maker Profile: https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/dospac?type=postedMost WWE t-shirts are made for kids it seems. The only ones I have that I wear in non-wrestling show situations are the classic Macho Man shirt, a Rockers one and an nWo Wolfpack one.DeathMagnetic80 posted...Most WWE t-shirts are made for kids it seems. The only ones I have that I wear in non-wrestling show situations are the classic Macho Man shirt, a Rockers one and an nWo Wolfpack one.
This. WWE merch targets kids not adults. Vince doesn’t ascribe to the theory that you should market to 19 year olds."Not only is Andre way smarter than you, he's also way smarter than you think you are." - SaikyoStylewwe t shirts look fucking awful
bullet club shirts actually look cool and something that's wearableSave water. Take a golden shower.Need to bring back Punk's Best in the World shirt tbqhSan Francisco 49ers
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This just made me realize... if Punk really does return for "All In" like he and the Bucks have been teasing he'll probably release his own Bullet Club shirt. If that happens that could be the highest selling wrestling shirt of all-time.ironic love for yoshi tatsuDizzyTechno posted...TrulyEpicLawls posted...
People in the crowd, particularly the ones you see on camera and at the front, are such a small pool and a very specific demographic.
You'd think Roman Reigns was incredibly unpopular going by them, but kids especially are fucking insane for him. He's like their Undertaker, so cool and big and strong.
Go back and look at the last Wrestlemania crowd, there are far, far more Bullet Club shirts than WWE shirts, and Wrestlemania is the show for casual fans so don't give me that "only hardcore fans like them!" cop out.
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I didn't give you a cop-out. I'm informing you of something, oddly enough I thought this was a disucussion, not "this is my view and anyone who dares disagree is wrong and being insulting to my presence" forum warrior crap.Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep tryingMuflaggin posted...VicVinegar posted...
Lol I've never seen a single person wearing any kind of merch, anywhere. Ever. Unless at a wrestling event.
BC merch is fairly common just being out and about.
Guess it depends on the area. I never see shirts like that in my area unless it's marvel or DC comics shirts.I once boxed my ferret and lost
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