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Wednesday, August 22, 2018

Jerry "The King" Lawler calls out Dave Meltzer

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Scorsese2002 3 months ago#1
http://www.wrestlefix.com/jerry-the-king-lawler-calls-out-dave-meltzer/

On the latest episode of Dinner with the King, Jerry Lawler discussed Dave Meltzer. Here are some highlights….

On Dave Meltzer’s beginnings in the pro wrestling business:

“Back in the day Dave Meltzer was one of the originators of what we called dirt sheets. This was kind of even before internet. I remember when he used to put them together. It was called mimeograph before copy machines. He’s staple them together and mail them out and you would go out and get your little Wrestling Observer Newsletter in the mail every week. It was just insider information that people in the wrestling business would try to protect from the fans. These were things in the wrestling business – stuff about their personal lives they felt shouldn’t have been out there. There was stuff about the behind the scenes of the business that shouldn’t have been out for the fans. That’s how Dave Meltzer became somebody people knew about, through these original dirt sheets. Most of the wrestlers couldn’t stand the guy. The promoters hated him because they felt like he was bad for the business and I felt the same way. I don’t really know Dave Meltzer. I don’t know him enough to say I’m friends with him or dislike him or anything.”

On how he felt as a promoter when Meltzer leaked information to fans:

“You hated that. That’s part of the mystique, the fun of the wrestling business is fans not knowing what’s gonna happen next. What he was like is he would be like a movie critic that would go and watch the movie before it came out and then he would go and tell a story to everybody, ‘Hey here’s what happens in the movie. This guy gets killed at the end.’ And he would just spoil the fun and that’s why they call them spoilers. He was one of the guys that originated spoilers. They would spoil the fun of what was gonna happen in the wrestling business. That’s what these guys did with these dirt sheets. They were spoilers.”

On people wanting spoilers:

“You think they do and they think they do; but, in reality, if you’re a true wrestling fan, you still may think you do; but, it diminishes the enjoyment of the product if you do hear that stuff.”

On Meltzer’s reporting on Lawler’s Greatest Royal Rumble comment:

“I had no inside information to base that statement on. That statement was my own personal opinion. I said something about, ‘I would think Vince McMahon would give the females a pay day from the Saudi Arabia show they didn’t get to attend because of political reasons.’ That was just my own personal opinion; but, Dave Meltzer made it sound like an official statement that it was coming from the WWE. That’s the kind of stuff he’s always done. He’s a sensationalizer. He’s always looked for inside and dirt. That’s why we call them the dirt sheets because bad news sells better than good news. People always wanted to know the bad stuff that was going on in wrestler’s lives. Everybody felt like that was an invasion of privacy on his part to delve into their personal lives and then throw it all out there in front of the public.”
Scorsese2002 3 months ago#2
On Meltzer’s sources:

“There’s always these idiots, I say, that are backstabbers that are actually working for the WWE and I’m sure there are now and have always been, that were working and getting paid by the WWE and then would turn around and give him information. It was almost like a spy or a mole in the company that has always worked with him and given him the information he gets.”

On Dave Meltzer’s 1994 report that Lawler would win the WWE Championship from Bret Hart:

“I would say absolutely not. That was never even mentioned to me and I don’t think anybody. Back in that day when I came up and first started in the WWE, I really don’t think Bret liked working with me. I think Bret thought it was beneath him to work with me. He looked at the guys from Memphis as being inferior hillbilly type wrestlers. We had some classic matches; but, at the time Bret thought he was the champion and I don’t think he thought it was a program or an opponent that was worthy of him. That was never mentioned to me. I don’t think that was true at all. I think that’s something Dave Meltzer made up back in the day. Fake news.”
Charged151 3 months ago#3
That last part about Bret ending with Fake news was just...wow.
I'm...the...official...master...of...ellipses...
Dynedux 3 months ago#4
On people wanting spoilers:

“You think they do and they think they do; but, in reality, if you’re a true wrestling fan, you still may think you do; but, it diminishes the enjoyment of the product if you do hear that stuff.”

That is 1000% correct
DizzyTechno 3 months ago#5
Older guys like Lawler and Bradshaw just use Meltzer's name for publicity, he's best off ignoring them instead of giving them exposure.
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BaronNugget 3 months ago#6
It's funny seeing all the sheep on Wreddit being triggered by King's comments about their lord and savoir.
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YU2 3 months ago#7
This angle has slowly but steadily gotten better. Needs an unexpected betrayal to reach new heights.
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LAC_HARLO 3 months ago#8
Dynedux posted...
On people wanting spoilers:

“You think they do and they think they do; but, in reality, if you’re a true wrestling fan, you still may think you do; but, it diminishes the enjoyment of the product if you do hear that stuff.”

That is 1000% correct


Agreed. I've been reading NXT Spoilers for months when they do their tapings finally after that last amazing TakeOver New Orleans I said "Fuck this, why am I purposely spoiling this product that I enjoy so much by reading results weeks before they happen."
ssjmole 3 months ago#9
Dynedux posted...
On people wanting spoilers:

“You think they do and they think they do; but, in reality, if you’re a true wrestling fan, you still may think you do; but, it diminishes the enjoyment of the product if you do hear that stuff.”

That is 1000% correct


We agree on this lol I've said this for awhile like talking to a friend back in the day on what was going to happen was like "I think ___ could happen because ___ (story or theory)" now its like "____ will happen , read it on online" and it's boring it kills the surprise.

Like I normally avoid spoilers/dirtsheets but I heard from a friend they said rock was back to host wrestlemania and this happened



I was happy and enjoyed but had that "yup knew it" feeling that kinda killed the enjoyment.

Cut to 2018 royal rumble. "STAND BACK THERES A HURRICANE COMING THROUGH" made me legit go 😮😮😮😮😮 omg!

I should have had that reaction to the rock. Like ask most wrestling fans would you be more excited for the Rock returning or the hurricane. Most will say the rock.

I don't think it'd coincidence the posters who seem to hate everything and talk about how predictable everything is , read dirtsheets. The same people if given chance would read episode V script and when Vader reveals the truth go "yup saw that coming soooooo predictable"

Anything can happen in the WWE is ruined if you see what will happen first.
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Dynedux 3 months ago#10
Yup. I don't read rag sheets and I have a pretty optimistic view of the Big Dub and I enjoy most of the product. What a coincidence.
n00bsaib0t 3 months ago#11
DizzyTechno posted...
Older guys like Lawler and Bradshaw just use Meltzer's name for publicity, he's best off ignoring them instead of giving them exposure.

You realize more wrestling fans know who Lawler and JBL are than Meltzer, right?
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Krow_Incarnate 3 months ago#12
n00bsaib0t posted...
DizzyTechno posted...
Older guys like Lawler and Bradshaw just use Meltzer's name for publicity, he's best off ignoring them instead of giving them exposure.

You realize more wrestling fans know who Lawlee and JBL are than Meltzer, right?

Shhh....
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Hardcore_Adult 3 months ago#13
I would pay to see Meltzer take a Mephis-style Piledriver.
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Carribean_Cool 3 months ago#14
Meltzer is a hack of a journalist.
I've seen this raw anger from fans once before. It didn't scare me enough then; it does now.
truffleshuffles 3 months ago#15
Lawler spitting the truth and some of melturds boys cant handle it
DizzyTechno 3 months ago#16
n00bsaib0t posted...
DizzyTechno posted...
Older guys like Lawler and Bradshaw just use Meltzer's name for publicity, he's best off ignoring them instead of giving them exposure.

You realize more wrestling fans know who Lawler and JBL are than Meltzer, right?


https://twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/status/985021760302071808?s=21

Meltzer was the eighth most googled name associated with Wrestlemania this year, there's absolutely no way you're going to convince Bradshaw and Jerry Lawler are as relevant as he is in 2018. They're probably just looking for podcast views and Meltzer "draws dimes" as you geek e-drones put it.
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n00bsaib0t 3 months ago#17
DizzyTechno posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...
DizzyTechno posted...
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You realize more wrestling fans know who Lawler and JBL are than Meltzer, right?


https://twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/status/985021760302071808?s=21

Meltzer was the eighth most googled name associated with Wrestlemania this year, there's absolutely no way you're going to convince Bradshaw and Jerry Lawler are as relevant as he is in 2018. They're probably just looking for podcast views and Meltzer "draws dimes" as you geek e-drones put it.

I never said they were relevant, I said more wrestling fans know who they are. I completely expect this kind of dishonesty from you, though.
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RetsuZaiZen 3 months ago#18
People that read dirt sheets just like looking for the sake of having a "reason" to complain about something ahead of time.

Preemptive bitching is prevalent on wrestling message boards mainly due to dirt sheets.
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Mizerous 3 months ago#19
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GameGodOfAll 3 months ago#20
Scorsese2002 posted...
On how he felt as a promoter when Meltzer leaked information to fans:

“You hated that. That’s part of the mystique, the fun of the wrestling business is fans not knowing what’s gonna happen next. What he was like is he would be like a movie critic that would go and watch the movie before it came out and then he would go and tell a story to everybody, ‘Hey here’s what happens in the movie. This guy gets killed at the end.’ And he would just spoil the fun and that’s why they call them spoilers. He was one of the guys that originated spoilers. They would spoil the fun of what was gonna happen in the wrestling business. That’s what these guys did with these dirt sheets. They were spoilers.”
On people wanting spoilers:
“You think they do and they think they do; but, in reality, if you’re a true wrestling fan, you still may think you do; but, it diminishes the enjoyment of the product if you do hear that stuff.”

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Shadow-Moses 3 months ago#21
DizzyTechno posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...
DizzyTechno posted...
 show hidden quote(s)

You realize more wrestling fans know who Lawler and JBL are than Meltzer, right?


https://twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/status/985021760302071808?s=21

Meltzer was the eighth most googled name associated with Wrestlemania this year, there's absolutely no way you're going to convince Bradshaw and Jerry Lawler are as relevant as he is in 2018. They're probably just looking for podcast views and Meltzer "draws dimes" as you geek e-drones put it.


You sound like a "geek" yourself since you take the internet so seriously. No one cares and yes they are more popular than Meltzer can ever hope to be. Meltzer is just a hack and a smark who overestimates himself just like all the other internet smarks. The internet wrestling fans are such a big joke.

And did you seriously say Lawler and JBL need a journalist for their publicity? A freaking journalist, a cheap dirt sheet writer who lives off the popularity of the wrestlers like a parasite? Guys like Meltzer are no better than your average paparazzi.
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ghettorevival 3 months ago#22
anyone else hate jerry lawler now? disrespecting the mother fucking real king Divine Dave "Mastermind" Meltzer like that
Maze_ 3 months ago#23
I'm not fond of the logic of "You say you want this but you actually don't!"

Seems dumb to me. When you're so bored you stopped watching and paying for shit, how can you tell me you know I really want it?

No one goes to Starbucks and orders a drink they don't like.

Why would people who don't want to know how Dean Ambrose's recovery is coming along look up how Dean Ambrose's injury coming along?
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jjonc2003 3 months ago#24
YU2 posted...
This angle has slowly but steadily gotten better. Needs an unexpected betrayal to reach new heights.


JR turns out to be one of the moles in WWE and hits King with a steel chair
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