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During his recent podcast, Booker T commented on the Lavar Ball segment from RAW and brought up his infamous WCW promo from 1997 where he accidentally called Hulk Hogan the 'N' word: “I just want to make it publicly known that I don’t condone that at all, especially coming off of Monday Night. We as a people, we gotta know when it’s time to speak up and when it’s time to shut up. My mother taught me that a long time ago; if you don’t know, it’ll come back and haunt you. [The WCW promo blooper] has haunted me for this many years. You put yourself in a situation for something to happen, just like Mike Tyson did, something can happen. For these young kids to understand and realize and be able to speak up for themselves…you know…then again, I spoke up because I was talent, I spoke up because I knew that I could speak up. I implore these young people out there to know exactly what they’re doing and how they are affecting our young people that are coming up. That’s the most important thing as far as I’m concerned. Me personally, I know I’ve made mistakes, that word that I said on national television in front of the world; I wish I could go back and erase it. I wish that I could take it back. I wish that WWE would never do something like that ever again.” Booker T also commented on Big E referencing the WCW promo on Smackdown Live: “Me personally, I don’t appreciate it. I don’t know if [WWE] knew that the parody was gonna go down because I know those guys do a lot of their own stuff. I don’t think that we as a company need to go that route. I think that parody should not have ever been shown on television because it wasn’t a great moment for us as black people. For us as black people, it was one of our worst moments, just like the Ball thing. The kid is 15-years old, I don’t blame him or anything like that. It was something that slipped out just like myself, it was something that slipped out. For me as a person that’s trying to set an example for us as black people and for me to let so many people down; even the ones that thought it was the cool; even the ones that thought it was an anthem. I want them to know that it was my worst day that I could have ever had being a black man and letting so many of our people down by calling us that word or saying that word in any realm, any form, was definitely not right by any means. I wish I could take it right back. That one blemish is the only thing they have over my head that they could put out there to try to make me look bad in any way shape, form, or fashion. Of course, I could put a spin on it, but does that make it right? No, it doesn’t make it right. It’s still a stain, a blemish, a mark that no surgical procedure could ever repair. So I just want young people to know exactly what they’re saying and when they’re saying it.”
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Why does he give such long winded diatribes? All he says could probably be said in like 2-3 sentences.
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ShadowMan033 posted...
Why does he give such long winded diatribes? All he says could probably be said in like 2-3 sentences. Scorsese2002 posted... http://nodq.com/news/501096683.shtml Everything on a podcast gets extended to fill airtime
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ShadowMan033 posted...
Why does he give such long winded diatribes? All he says could probably be said in like 2-3 sentences. Because he's gone from Street Lingo Booker T to Conservative Sage Booker T. I like it.
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I understand that it seems to bother him down to his soul. But I never really got why. I understand the magnitude of the word but, even in his promo, he didn't call another black person an N-word. And he didn't even finish the sentence. Also whether they think highly of Booker T or not, no one has ever looked at that and blamed him for "setting us back as a people". On one hand, we understand it was an accident, a goof, a slip up. And just not that big a deal to "the people". On other hand, I'm sorry but, you're just not that important, Booker.
Also, while LaMello's incident wasn't a slip, he's a 15-year old kid used to talking a certain way with no media training. The way Booker was talking on the interview like he despises the word so much that wouldn't be just a slip. You're fired up in your promo but you're acting. You're not actually angry. So how does a word you despise so much and never say just "slip out" if you don't talk like that with your boys on the regular?
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The New Blueguy posted...
I understand that it seems to bother him down to his soul. But I never really got why. I understand the magnitude of the word but, even in his promo, he didn't call another black person an N-word. And he didn't even finish the sentence. Also whether they think highly of Booker T or not, no one has ever looked at that and blamed him for "setting us back as a people". On one hand, we understand it was an accident, a goof, a slip up. And just not that big a deal to "the people". On other hand, I'm sorry but, you're just not that important, Booker. I believe thats what happens when you've used a word so casually for so long, it just stays in your vocabulary. It's a word that means something different to a lot of people, so there's always a time and a place to use such a word. Because of who wwe is catering to, and who they have partnerships with, they can't promote certain things like they used to and the employees know that. They might call someone a b**** or a p**** once in a while, but they know the consequences of referring to their female talent on the regular as some b****es would mess up some of their guaranteed money. The Ball family being guests with no filter kind of messes that up, and wwe probably should have been more knowledgeable about them before giving them live mics.
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Stop posting please.
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Booker seems like he's trying too hard. He literally said 'the n word' so much that it slipped out in a WCW promo on live TV. To try to act like it's some devastating thing (it's not) is kinda...weird. Disingenuous.
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ShadowMan033 posted...
Why does he give such long winded diatribes? All he says could probably be said in like 2-3 sentences. Becauuuuuaaaase he is a biiiiig Texaaaas wiiindbaaaag. scukaaaaa!
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ShadowMan033 posted...
Why does he give such long winded diatribes? All he says could probably be said in like 2-3 sentences. Booker T makes all of his money by speaking as colorfully as he can. Once a week it's live for 3 hours. Something tells me he got the job because of natural tendencies like that.
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Booker seems like he's trying too hard. He literally said 'the n word' so much that it slipped out in a WCW promo on live TV. To try to act like it's some devastating thing (it's not) is kinda...weird. Disingenuous. It is. We're the only people who call each other what our ancestors slave masters called them. You don't see Asians going around calling themselves the c word or Jews the K word. I swear, the mainstream Black community will unfortunately do whatever it takes to stay ignorant. As a Black man I'm disappointed.
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Knowledge_King posted...
Booker seems like he's trying too hard. He literally said 'the n word' so much that it slipped out in a WCW promo on live TV. To try to act like it's some devastating thing (it's not) is kinda...weird. Disingenuous. And both times it was toward a white wrestler, so it does seem overdramatic. |
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Knowledge_King posted...
Booker seems like he's trying too hard. He literally said 'the n word' so much that it slipped out in a WCW promo on live TV. To try to act like it's some devastating thing (it's not) is kinda...weird. Disingenuous. Sorry for the double post. Simply put, Booker was younger and less trained at the time. Now that he's older, and wiser, he changed his opinion on the word. Booker's use of the word never had a racial connotation so it's easy to wrap your mind around how he can condemn the word as a whole. Many people feel like being approving of ***** with an "a" is giving power to ****** with an "er" despite your use and your intentions. It's easy to understand how a 50 year old Booker feels that 35 year old Booker's ways can kill his intended positive influence of his words. Tl;dr Booker learned to hate the word because even though HE never meant anything racial, he now sees that the word is forever linked with racism.
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Knowledge_King posted...
Booker seems like he's trying too hard. He literally said 'the n word' so much that it slipped out in a WCW promo on live TV. To try to act like it's some devastating thing (it's not) is kinda...weird. Disingenuous. yeah but decades ago . he doesnt use it anymore hes changed thats part of the point
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He definitely still uses the word when with friends
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When that little Ball punk gets older he may wise up like Booker T did, as you get older with age you tend to look at your past more and more and realize all that s*** you did when you were younger comes back to bite you like Booker T said. Book knows this well that his little slip up kick his ass and I'm sure most the the audience at home at that time thought of it as Bookers way of talking and took it all wrong. Who knows? lol
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RonWeassly posted...
It is. We're the only people who call each other what our ancestors slave masters called them. You don't see Asians going around calling themselves the c word or Jews the K word. I swear, the mainstream Black community will unfortunately do whatever it takes to stay ignorant. We're like the only ones that were actually enslaved and called a specific word in such a manner. It's not really ignorant to say the word. It's just a preference. You can know everything it meant, all of it's history, and still wish to use it. It seems to work as it infuriates those who used to say it, now that they "can't". llennroc posted...
Isn't that kinda weird though? To go from using it all the time to absolutely hating and despising it? And it's not like he 'grew up'. Dude was like late twenties, early thirties and using it. And either way, pretending like saying it is some HUGE set back is still wrong in many ways.
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When Booker said it, he was immediately embarrassed. When LaMello said it, he felt he needed to repeat himself in case the audience couldn't hear him over Ambrose's entrance theme.
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N word is bad when anyone says it. Glad Booker sees that.
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Knowledge_King posted...
RonWeassly posted...It is. We're the only people who call each other what our ancestors slave masters called them. You don't see Asians going around calling themselves the c word or Jews the K word. I swear, the mainstream Black community will unfortunately do whatever it takes to stay ignorant. You can change your beliefs on certain things from your 30's to 50's. Something like whether one of the 'neighborhood words' is okay or not is not a huge change especially with the way he used it in the past. In the past it would just roll out of his mouth in place of "dude,man,guy,bro,etc".
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The N word is different (ie, not insulting) when black people say it, thanks to a rule in the English language about popular use. It's really that simple.
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That first paragraph is one of the more confusing things I've read.
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I normally like Booker , but get off it. He was ok with a white man saying it right in front of him, but is upset when a kid says it.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
The N word is different (ie, not insulting) when black people say it, thanks to a rule in the English language about popular use. It's really that simple. It makes no sense to hold it to a different standard due to race and is denial otherwise since a word can't be both good and bad at the same time. "Stop treating us differently and equally but allow us to treat ourselves different and non-equally" Yeah, no.
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xOmniCloudx posted...
Why is the N-word that only thing where this is an issue. Fat people can call each other fat and no one pats an eye, but if a fit person did it there would be issues. Woman have wrote songs calling themselves of a B-word. Yet if a guy goes up to the girl and say that then there would be issues. Same guy people throw around gay Slurs and that is ok, but if a non gay person did there would be trouble. But yet the -Word is where people flip out. I wonder way.
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cjsdowg posted...
xOmniCloudx posted... Fat isn't a slur, it's a factual health state. However even then, people do commonly lose it when used, especially many women if you call them fat though. b**** is a description of people and situations considered bad and people do go crazy when the term is used, especially toward women. Go ask rappers or anyone called sexist that especially get grilled for it. You'll get it endlessly for throwing gay slurs around these days and even lose your job and sometimes worse going off many people that did just that. Nice job using words that are not only different and used differently but also have the literal opposite of what you claim happens anyway. N word is a word that was specifically used to dehumanize people but also due to the people using it being too stupid to say and spell the word Niger correctly which is typical for Americans when it comes to spelling and pronouncing simple names they aren't used to correctly. Anyway, pretending that disappears or automatically changes just because someone's race changed is beyond absurd and how sheep you have to be to outright ignore sense to justify it. To everybody else it just makes you look like a moron to think like that and the word being more accurate than you realize but no in the ways you wanted.
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Did you not read what was written.
First all 3 of what I listed are insults. And by definition they would be slurs. Slur: a : an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo : aspersionb : a shaming or degrading effect : stain, stigma. Next in my post. I highlighted that people get upset when you use these things. Fat people can call each other fat and no one pats an eye, but if a fit person did it there would be issues. So you rant addressed nothing, tried to make it ok to insult people , and over looked what I stated . It is clear people like use the N word a lot, and just don't want people calling you on when you use it.
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I swear, people will defend the right to be ignorant and use a word that was used against our ancestors. It's stupid to call each other n words. So dumb. You sound ignorant as Hell. Same with women calling themselves Bs. That's dumb too. I don't like any of it and I don't get why people do it. It's like "Yeah! Let's disrespect each other by taking back a word!" It's dumb. All I'm saying is, there's much better things to pass down to the next generation. No one wants the next generation to have to keep carrying on the n word or anything else disparaging. Just like how Jews don't let their young ever say the K-word, we should be the same. We really need to have some nightmare theme park where you watch the slave experience and get called an N-word. You'd think ROOTS would have taught our people by now but apparently not. That will wake people up. Martin Luther King and X didn't math through streets and get their asses kicked so we could use the N word against each other. |
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cjsdowg posted...
I normally like Booker , but get off it. He was ok with a white man saying it right in front of him, but is upset when a kid says it. Your privilege doesn't allow you to tell a 50 year old black man how to feel about the N-word. Say that out loud to yourself until it really sinks in. And NO, that segment with Vince was a joke at Booker's expense and Vince is his boss. Who told you he was thrilled to be in that segment?! Book said that it's haunted him since, you don't think that segment and the New Day reference were two of the biggest examples of that? Quit trying to discredit him. I repeat, he's a 50 year old Black man from the South. On racial issues, you take HIS word. He's not even askin or demanding anything l, he's simply sharing his opinion of a word and people like you still can't take it.
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llennroc posted...
A 30 year old black man from the South. And my point still stands, if he hated that much he should have complained about his boss saying it. You have to stand for something .
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cjsdowg posted...
llennroc posted... Your point certainly does not
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llennroc posted...
Yes it does, you can't complain about the 15 year old saying that word, a 30 year old make joke like he was going to say it. yet when a 70 yr old white man say it ..do nothing.
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It's simple, either everyone can say it or no one can. That's equality.
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CM101Play posted...
It's simple, either everyone can say it or no one can. That's equality. So let's fix racial profiling, the criminal justice system, hiring ect. Then we can get to that word.
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RonWeassly posted...
I swear, people will defend the right to be ignorant and use a word that was used against our ancestors. It's stupid to call each other n words. So dumb. You sound ignorant as Hell. But...it's not ignorance. I know every bad thing that happened. It was horrible, borderline cartoonish villain s*** with how savage and brutal and evil it was. But...that has nothing to do with me saying the n word. And what others do doesn't matter since they didn't go through the same experience. Roots isn't even touching the surface of what happened but w/e. Oh and the n word has nothing to do with MLK or Malcom X. Nor are they our greatest heroes. I get not liking it, but ignorant is the wrong word. And so is pushing others to change their harmless behavior/vocabulary that's only used among a certain group of people.
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cjsdowg posted...
llennroc posted... Despite the fact that Booker CAN complain about whatever he wants on the topic because of who he is and his personal experience... Like I said, he was not happy about Vince saying it for shock humor. It's an example of how his slip up from 20 years ago has haunted him. Booker grew up in a low income, low education environment. Booker also is the type that learns and adapts. Don't mistake the value of a white person's opinion on the 'n' word with the value of a black person's opinion of it. A white person's opinion on the word will always be less important because of its history of it. White people were on the wrong side of history. They were the abusers and used this word as just one form of abuse on blacks BECAUSE we were black. Black people tried to kill the negative power of the word by reclaiming it for their use only, however older and wiser individuals see this as keeping the abusive history alive and relevant. Many black people come to this realization during their lifetime. In closing, you should be ashamed of yourself for telling a 50 year old black man from the South how to feel about a term that has roots as a racial slur. Check your privilege, dude. Also, saying that everyone should have the same access to saying the word is misguided. Saying "WHITE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT SAY THE N-WORD" is hardly oppressing white people. Check your privilege as well. I'm dropping the mic now but I have no problem schooling anyone else with questions.
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llennroc posted...
cjsdowg posted...llennroc posted... You haven't schooled anyone, at this point you really seem to be parody .
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Oh my God. It's just a word. People are way too sensitive these days.
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^Raise a point toward the argument. That post is clearly just filler.
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Maybe in the distant future, we'll be equal with white people but until the day that that's even a likelihood good, it makes no sense making statements like "if whites and blacks are equal".
CJ has no point since Booker was mad at LaMelo, Vince, and himself for saying it and mad at the New Day for referencing him saying it. The word is more destructive than Booker realized 20 years ago.
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llennroc posted...
My point is that he is aiming low . He is complaining about these young guys who did it . While being ok with a 60/70 year old guy doing it. The fact that you don't see that as an issue says a lot. The guy with all the power saying it is worse then some 15 year old .
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cjsdowg posted...
llennroc posted... Talk about being a parody. This must be some kinda sick joke...or insanity. Why do you think Booker was okay with Vince saying the n-word?
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llennroc posted...
e some kinda sick joke...or insanity. Why do you think Booker was okay with Vince saying the n-word? There is nothing to suggest otherwise .
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You've just established yourself as a joke
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llennroc posted...
You've just established yourself as a joke That doesn't mean much coming from you , since you literally told a black guy from the South to Check his privilege .
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cjsdowg posted...
llennroc posted...You've just established yourself as a joke I made a mistake. I thought you were ignorant and white instead of ignorant and black. Now that I know, your stance is EVEN MORE ridiculous. Haha
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