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- In Japan, KENTA (Hideo Itami) is seen as "the guy who didn't make it."
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Regarding Japan, one thing noted is both how much Itami has lost his fire and some of that may also be how he was booked on the tour. He lost in the opener on the first night to Jericho. Usually when Jericho goes on tour, his role is to have good matches and put over the younger talent, plus the usual rule on tours is babyface goes over if at all possible. Yet they had Jericho pin him the first night. Not only that, but Jericho, even in playing heel, got more cheers than Itami as they apparently see Itami as a superstar who went there and didn’t make it. The second night he was just used as a backdrop for the Enzo vs Cass feud.
I feel sorry for the guy, WWE ruined his career.
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Or maybe because he is made of glass? Just a thought.
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Nah, WWE ruined his career just like they're ruining Nakamura's career. Poor guys.
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Jericho has a good W/L record in Japan and he is always over in Japan. He defeated Neville in Beast in the East where he used the lion tamer users like yourself where complaining about not putting Neville over. When it comes to Japan and Mexico Jericho usually wins and he's popular because of his past. This is common sense....check all the past house shows/tours/etc...as for Itami he got injured at the worse times and is now being used properly just still getting built in development. He has improved in his English which is a bonus, before the injury he was in Balors shadow now Balor can't even cast a shadow.
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He's fat.
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Itami should just leave and go back to Japan soon(but after wrestling Ohno at Takeover hopefully). He hasn't been able to get momentum & at this point I could see him ending up on 205 Live or something if he made the main roster.
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DizzyTechno posted...
Nah, WWE ruined his career just like they're ruining Nakamura's career. Poor guys. You don't know anything about either of their careers to make a statement like that. Already been proven you ain't really THAT much of a professional wrestling fan.
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DizzyTechno posted...
Nah, WWE ruined his career just like they're ruining Nakamura's career. Poor guys. Yeah and if Nakamura was back in NJPW, Naito and Kenny wouldn't be nearly as over as they are now. I know you absolutely hate seeing Nakamura in WWE since "NJPW is the only place he should ever be, tearing it up with the best talent in the world" but in the end it was the best decision for both himself and New Japan Pro Wrestling's future because as great as he is...he was stagnating their future.
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KENTA was always overhyped as all hell, he's a decent worker but was never the superstar the net makes him out to be.
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I think KENTA's best move would be to go to GFW. They have Marufuji now through a relationship with NOAH. KETNAfuji could win some tag belts in the US and KENTA could work on rebuilding.
Nakamura made the right move because either he would hold someone else back in NJPW, or he would be in the Nagata spot. Plus he has "made" it in WWE just by being on the main roster and getting wins. So he can easily go do legend stuff in Japan later on. He can probably have a MiSu type run when he goes back.
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Kenta is a bigger bust than Mistico (the original Sin Cara) was.
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TranceQuina posted...
Kenta is a bigger bust than Mistico (the original Sin Cara) was. Untrue. He's not a botch machine nor the complete b****made a****** Mistico is.
Burn...let it all burn.
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If you're a Japanese wrestler who is over in Japan you don't leave Japan. The only who come over are young lions trying to prove themselves (Okada six years ago), old timers (Nakamura), or guys who were never that over to begin with (KENTA, Asuka).
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KENTA and Kana were plenty over in Japan, what makes you think otherwise?
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WWE is f***ing terrible. Their booking is horrendous, creative botches talent constantly. It's like they can only focus on 1-2 people and leave the rest at the wayside until it is their turn.
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DizzyTechno posted...
KENTA and Kana were plenty over in Japan, what makes you think otherwise? KENTA was working for a dying promotion and joshi is a super niche product.
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What?
Its a good role for him. Losing doesnt put him below others. It helps others gain much needed attention. Itami has a name. Hes a brand on his own while others arent. Its simple. Itami is fine. The wwe cant put both Nakamura and Itami over at the same time on the main shows so, hideo itami is doing his part to get the rest over while Nakamura establishes himself on the main roster. Then when its Itami's turn to go to the main roster, the folks he helped put over will help him get established on the main roster.
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ninja rabbit posted...
If you're a Japanese wrestler who is over in Japan you don't leave Japan. The only who come over are young lions trying to prove themselves (Okada six years ago), old timers (Nakamura), or guys who were never that over to begin with (KENTA, Asuka). lolwut
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well maybe he just really didn't make it...
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Byuusetsu posted...
Itami should just leave and go back to Japan soon(but after wrestling Ohno at Takeover hopefully). He hasn't been able to get momentum & at this point I could see him ending up on 205 Live or something if he made the main roster. Itami would perfect for 205 tbh. KENTA v PAC? Yes plz
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xOmniCloudx posted...
ninja rabbit posted...If you're a Japanese wrestler who is over in Japan you don't leave Japan. The only who come over are young lions trying to prove themselves (Okada six years ago), old timers (Nakamura), or guys who were never that over to begin with (KENTA, Asuka). KENTA was one of the top guys in Japan for a while before he went to WWE.
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AndreLeGeant posted...
DizzyTechno posted...KENTA and Kana were plenty over in Japan, what makes you think otherwise? I guess KENTA's star was dying by the time he signed with NXT but to say he was "never over" is disingenuous, he was one of NOAH's bigger stars when the company was still worth a s***, possibly the biggest they made on their own, and he could've been even bigger if NOAH didn't f*** it up and wait so long to put the heavyweight title on him, by that time both NOAH and KENTA's popularity had started to diminish. As far as Kana is concerned, I agree that joshi is a niche product but I'd argue that she transcended modern joshi with the article she wrote for Weekly Pro Wrestling (or was it Tokyo Sports?) in 2010 and became not only one of the biggest heels in joshi but in all of Japanese wrestling.
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DizzyTechno posted...
AndreLeGeant posted...DizzyTechno posted...KENTA and Kana were plenty over in Japan, what makes you think otherwise? Both had more potential for money in WWE is the point. I'd have said KENTA was more past his prime like Nakamura than a never was. But I think the core point is WWE will never get an Okada type star because if you're that good you will stay in Japan.
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If they'd just send Itami to SD and turn him heel, everything would be fine again.
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pycho316 posted...
If they'd just send Itami to SD and turn him heel, everything would be fine again. All this "Send them to SDL to fix them" when SDL is at the worst it's ever been since the split right now...makes sense.
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Saitsuofleaves posted...
pycho316 posted...If they'd just send Itami to SD and turn him heel, everything would be fine again. thatsthejoke.gif
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Saitsuofleaves posted...
pycho316 posted...If they'd just send Itami to SD and turn him heel, everything would be fine again. I've also grown tired of them thinking the only solution to everything is to turn them heel, as if that atomically adds character.
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BaronNugget posted...
Or maybe because he is made of glass? Just a thought. had a pretty stiff career for someone made of glass |
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AndreLeGeant posted...
Both had more potential for money in WWE is the point. I'd have said KENTA was more past his prime like Nakamura than a never was. But I think the core point is WWE will never get an Okada type star because if you're that good you will stay in Japan. i think if wwe gave any kind of impression that they would take a japanese wrestler seriously and allow them the chance to be a top guy, they would have a much better chance |
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lol at all these KENTA haters. go back to fellating Reigns or Corbin
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cheese_game619 posted...
AndreLeGeant posted...Both had more potential for money in WWE is the point. I'd have said KENTA was more past his prime like Nakamura than a never was. But I think the core point is WWE will never get an Okada type star because if you're that good you will stay in Japan. Well here's the thing. Up until now, only Nakamura has legitimately had the personal ability to deserve that shot. I mean, the other Japanese wrestlers WWE has brought in...haven't been THAT good. I mean, TAKA is fine (and COMING MOTHERf***ER) but his ceiling was pretty much where he started. Tajiri, about the same. Yoshi Tatsu is absolute trash so there's that and Jimmy Wang Yang even with a better gimmick, was at best a good midcard filler guy. So while I can understand the blame towards WWE about "not treating Japanese wrestlers with more respect" at the same time...WWE wasn't holding them back either, they weren't "top" talent. Nakamura and Hideo are really their first tries at TOP Japanese talent and while Hideo has been a struggle due to a ton of freak injuries, Nakamura is obviously being treated as a big deal. And no, not immediately getting a World Title shot doesn't mean he's being held back as much as people would like to think.
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cheese_game619 posted...
AndreLeGeant posted...Both had more potential for money in WWE is the point. I'd have said KENTA was more past his prime like Nakamura than a never was. But I think the core point is WWE will never get an Okada type star because if you're that good you will stay in Japan. I dunno. Japanese are so Xenophobic by and large. I ant see someone who can make $2m in NJPW like Okada wanting to come here.
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Hideo Itami is the biggest what if scenario if he didn't get hurt in 2015. That Beast In the East show was meant for him to challenge for the NXT title in Japan against Kevin Owens and he got hurt. Since he got hurt that went to Finn Balor and Itami watched Balor win the title at Beast in the East. He had the look of sadness on his face when they panned to him in the crowd after Balor beat him.
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Hidden_Is_Back posted...
Hideo Itami is the biggest what if scenario if he didn't get hurt in 2015. That Beast In the East show was meant for him to challenge for the NXT title in Japan against Kevin Owens and he got hurt. Since he got hurt that went to Finn Balor and Itami watched Balor win the title at Beast in the East. He had the look of sadness on his face when they panned to him in the crowd after Balor beat him. I'd say the biggest what if scenario in 2015 is more on Daniel Bryan actually fighting Lesnar.
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AndreLeGeant posted...
cheese_game619 posted...AndreLeGeant posted...Both had more potential for money in WWE is the point. I'd have said KENTA was more past his prime like Nakamura than a never was. But I think the core point is WWE will never get an Okada type star because if you're that good you will stay in Japan. We need someone from Japan who's a reverse weaboo.
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Even if they like America most people want to work close to home. Okada is in his own bed multiple weeks in a row sometimes.
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schizoid37 posted...
Hidden_Is_Back posted...Hideo Itami is the biggest what if scenario if he didn't get hurt in 2015. That Beast In the East show was meant for him to challenge for the NXT title in Japan against Kevin Owens and he got hurt. Since he got hurt that went to Finn Balor and Itami watched Balor win the title at Beast in the East. He had the look of sadness on his face when they panned to him in the crowd after Balor beat him. WWE had zero intentions of that. Not the same.
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i thought itami won but i guess he won in singapore and then lost in japan? weird
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Saitsuofleaves posted...
pycho316 posted...If they'd just send Itami to SD and turn him heel, everything would be fine again. That's the joke along with the turn them heel. Still one thing I can say is that SDL can go up from here but raw cam go down a lot quicker.
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AndreLeGeant posted...
I think KENTA's best move would be to go to GFW. They have Marufuji now through a relationship with NOAH. KETNAfuji could win some tag belts in the US and KENTA could work on rebuilding. Wasn't KENTAfuji not over though? Don't know much of their history, but didn't Kenta kind of fail in NOAH?
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KENTA and Marufuji didn't fail per se. But NOAH fans st the time didn't care about NOAH. They just wanted their old AJPW Stars. If they weren't getting the old guys, they didn't care.
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That does kinda prove my point that KENTA was never that over in Japan and going to NXT was a better option for him than being an upper midcarder in a middle-tier fed in Japan.
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ninja rabbit posted...
That does kinda prove my point that KENTA was never that over in Japan and going to NXT was a better option for him than being an upper midcarder in a middle-tier fed in Japan. Middle tier is generous at this point. NOAH is like number 4 or 5.
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Kenta is a victim of bad circumstance he came into NXT at a time were they were stacked in between sucking of Balor they really had no time for him then at the time when things started to cool down were he would of gotten his turn he got hurt not his fault things happen
He came back and they were slowly pushing him the dusty classic with him teaming with Kota would of been big for him at that point but he got hurt because of some trash green wrestler Now hes back in NXT at a time when its packed again but hes getting a spotlight finally and doing his thing he will be fine as long as he can stay health now full sail still loves him |
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NOAH has to be on the verge of being bought and becoming the Invasion angle for this decade.
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- In Japan, KENTA (Hideo Itami) is seen as "the guy who didn't make it."
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- In Japan, KENTA (Hideo Itami) is seen as "the guy who didn't make it."
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- Pro Wrestling: WWE
- In Japan, KENTA (Hideo Itami) is seen as "the guy who didn't make it."
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