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Even when he has one good match after another.
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Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is.
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BaronNugget posted...
Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. Daniel Bryan |
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BaronNugget posted...
Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. Stone Cold Brock Lesnar (2002-2004)
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EffectAndCause posted...
BaronNugget posted...Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. Hmmm hard to say really I mean Brock ended the streak on the same night D-Bry won the title and would have probably dropped it to him if he didn't get hurt.
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BaronNugget posted...
Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. kinda agree to this but I feel like its now become a hipster thing where there is just so much denial with Roman. It turned to a few thousand being mad he got the push of indie darlings and then it grew and grew to excuses like hes pushed too soon and too much yet they forget he was in that losing streak from the authority he even gave the green light and wanted his friend Seth to cash in the bank at mania to take it from brock over him. Roman is not bad I agree and I am a fan if you take away the booing and just sit and watch his character in the ring is not that bad and with the shield reunion I hope they all become heels I like heel shield members where they just wreck the roster thats what Roman needs to do
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BaronNugget posted...
Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. Tell that to THE RAINMAKER |
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I hate this whole "People just pretend they like/don't like it" thing.
I don't think anyone is claiming Reigns is boring and they don't like him when they actually do. Whether or not a match is good is subjective, going "All the fans are just lying to themselves" is crazy. I've loved Drew since IWW but the people who didn't like him weren't lying. They just didn't like him
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EffectAndCause posted...
BaronNugget posted...Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. He was already starting to get some hate while he was feuding with Kane. It wasn't long enough for it to pick up since he was injured shortly after which placed him back in the "Held down" column that people here clamor for, only by injuries and not the machine this time around. Example topics for fun: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/218-pro-wrestling-wwe/69074002 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/218-pro-wrestling-wwe/69125012 - even a topic that correlated business dropping with him, in line with Reigns and attendance https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/218-pro-wrestling-wwe/69167347
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EffectAndCause posted...
BaronNugget posted...Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. People hate Roman because that shit ain't organic mic skills are bad. the character is bad. the push is too much.
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True. They are morons.
A good looking, young, athletic guy who didn't come from some indy promotion is never going to be accepted by the neck beards. Jealousy is a horrible thing. |
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Via_Negativa posted...
EffectAndCause posted...BaronNugget posted...Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. I think what Meltzer's saying though is that people don't hate on Okada even though in his opinion, Okada's push has been just as forced as Roman's. |
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He's not a good wrestler. He's solid at best. He looks good when he has good opponents. He absolutely embarrassed himself trying to carry the undertaker. He's better in the ring than super Cena was, but still not as good as recent Cena who tries a bit harder.
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JfAtS1O3N posted...
I think what Meltzer's saying though is that people don't hate on Okada even though in his opinion, Okada's push has been just as forced as Roman's. Big Money Kaz isn't completely obnoxious like Roman's character is despite having the gimmick of "spoilt rich kid". Also, though both have great matches, Okada's are much better and Dave believes that more than anyone. |
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I don't dislike Roman Reigns, I just don't like the way they are forcing his character.
He doesn't feel genuine. He FEELS scripted and boring. I know it's all scripted, but some you can tell will work well within that system, and others need to be allowed to just "be". Roman would be far better if he wasn't put into this specific role of basically being the next John Cena. Cena wasn't "the next Stone Cold", he was John Cena, and got over as John Cena. Stone Cold was not the "next HBK", he was Stone Cold. Roman Reigns doesn't seem to really be Roman Reigns quite yet... and if this IS what Roman Reigns is really like, he lacks charisma and presence. |
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It's his character and top guy booking most of us have issues with.
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Peoples hate for wwe top brass for all their evil deeds (real or percieved) got put onto roman once it became obvious that he was the guy they wanted to be the top guy
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The problem with Roman was they tried turning him into some "witty" cena/rock knockoff Cena/rock character, when he's better off being more like masked Kane aka borderline mute. Pretty sure he wasn't cutting suffering succotqsh promos or overly wordy promos when he was in the shield and super over
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The problem with Roman is they gave him a mic. Dude tears the house down every damn week (and then does eleventy superman punches and a spear ruining what would have been a fantastic match) but he embarrasses himself trying to talk with the top talent. This is why he is booed to all hell during his entrance and promos but people pop for his spots.
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can we retire the "roman push" excuse
that boy finn balor literally had a rocket strapped to his ass.
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But most fans or casuals don't care about ring work. From an entertainment standpoint he's boring. That's just a fact. He was certainly not forced down our throats the same as others in the past. That's a damn fact. He was protected so much. Hogan like. Warrior like.
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From everyone I've talked to, his match with Cena was overly long and outright garbage.
I haven't seen it yet, but that's pretty odd since Cena has been putting on classics with nearly everyone he's wrestled the last 2-3 years.
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NathanCopeland posted...
can we retire the "roman push" excuse and now he's stuck in a dead end rivalry with Bray, while Roman's push never really slowed down
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JfAtS1O3N posted...
Via_Negativa posted...EffectAndCause posted...BaronNugget posted...Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. Okada's push was far more forced that Roman's. He came back, wasn't cared about and booed at his first match, won the title a month later from the Ace, Tanahashi. Roman at least needed to wait 3 years before winning the World Title. Gedo took the mother of all risks with Okada and got lucky and proven right when Okada did end up taking off. You know why he did? Because he has a great character and puts on better matches than Roman (and honestly the entire planet right now so it's not really an offense to Roman). Plus the flow of NJPW favors strong pushes more, since it's much easier to stay strong and yet out of the title limelight when needed there, compared to WWE.
Burn...let it all burn.
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rocket strapped to his ass... my ASS
He's been on the backburner since returning. How the fuck is Finn Balor comparable to Roman Reigns in terms of a push? Fuck me. Some dumb posts on this board.
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Remember when Finn got satellite interviews
Remember when he totally spazzed on them Remember when he was given a world title shot on his return Here's a hint: Finn is actually decent at what he does. Give him the green light to do pretty much whatever and have long "epics" like Cena and Roman do rn and I bet he does better |
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Reigns is probably AT WORST already a top 20 in ring performer in WWE history.
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I wonder how @Dynedux feels about this turncoat reporter now.
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BrandonME posted...
Reigns is probably AT WORST already a top 20 in ring performer in WWE history. AJ Styles Shelton Benjamin Neville Johnny Gargano Shinsuke Nakamura Sami Zayn Kevin Owens Ricky Steamboat HBK Chris Jericho Bret Hart Owen Hart Chris Benoit Eddie Guererro Rob Van Dam Kurt Angle Daniel Bryan Pete Dunne Tyler Bate Mr Perfect I know I'm missing people, but there are 20 that are significantly better than Roman. Go learn your history
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occupine posted...
BrandonME posted...Reigns is probably AT WORST already a top 20 in ring performer in WWE history. List your metrics. Some of them are technicians that couldn't brawl their way out of a wet paper bag.
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n00bsaib0t posted...
occupine posted...BrandonME posted...Reigns is probably AT WORST already a top 20 in ring performer in WWE history. in ring performer. It has nothing to do with styles [insert AJ joke here]. These 20 at minimum are overall better in ring performers and put on more entertaining/engaging/(there's another word..I just forgot what it was) matches than Roman
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occupine posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...occupine posted...BrandonME posted...Reigns is probably AT WORST already a top 20 in ring performer in WWE history. That's fair. I personally think that Roman is as good as a few of them, but that's just me.
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As an entertainer Roman sucks. Because he's not entertaining. It's literally the 3rd letter in WWE. If you don't entertain you don't matter. Roman doesn't entertain. See one Roman match, see them all.
Fans don't like Roman (I assume, haven't seen him wrestle much since Wrestlemania and Summerslam, and they hated him then) because he has no personality. There's no reason to give a shit about him. He can't talk, so he can't convey the emotion needed to connect with an audience. His matches are all boring spot fests, jumping here, jumping there, hard for fans to connect there, then his look is just off putting. It's so fake and tired. He's what you think a 70 year old man would assume people in their teens and twenties think looks cool. If Roman developed a personality, if he developed mic skills, maybe people could back him. Wrestling skills aren't everything. John Cena couldn't wrestle for shit for a literal decade. The Rock still can't fucking wrestle. And Stone Cold got his biggest when his wrestling ability was essentially crippled. But they all had personalities. They all had copious amounts of charisma, and they all had great mic skills. They were all also heel before turning face in sympathetic natures (sans Cena). So yea, Roman, 4 years in, has still given us no reason to give a shit about him. The closest he ever got was when Bray was doing weird shit about him and his daughter. That was it. They quickly abandoned that and here we are. Same shit, different day, different month, different year. Same match though.
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And Cena got shat on by the fans for 10 years, what's your point
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occupine posted...
And Cena got shat on by the fans for 10 years, what's your point Fans actually wanted to see Cena beat JBL. I can't think of many times fans actually wanted to see Roman win anything.
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ClayGuida posted...
occupine posted...And Cena got shat on by the fans for 10 years, what's your point vs Sheamus the night he won the title
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ClayGuida posted...
occupine posted...And Cena got shat on by the fans for 10 years, what's your point That's because it was John Boring Layfield. How long did those cheers last? 6 months?
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OZ_Archangel posted...
BaronNugget posted...Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. Yep
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ClayGuida posted...
From everyone I've talked to, his match with Cena was overly long and outright garbage. It wasn't garbage, it was just extremely average. It honestly felt like Cena was just going through the motions
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the match wasn't horrible but it wasn't good either
also kicking out of an AA, a super AA and a double AA as just stupid
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Saitsuofleaves posted...
Okada's push was far more forced that Roman's. He came back, wasn't cared about and booed at his first match, won the title a month later from the Ace, Tanahashi. Roman at least needed to wait 3 years before winning the World Title. Gedo took the mother of all risks with Okada and got lucky and proven right when Okada did end up taking off. Important distinction with The Rainmaker push compared to Reigns is that Okada got his megapush as a heel, his character is a spoilt rich kid who got everything handed to him, a guy who was driving around in a Lamborghini at 24. We were supposed to dislike him. Only when Okada showed the world that he was handpicked by NJPW for a reason and he got more nefarious villains to face off against in the form of the Bullet Club, Suzuki Gun and LIJ did he begin to be positioned as a top face and was only cemented as THE top face less than two years ago. We were expected to love Roman before he earned that, which is a terrible position for a guy you've strapped a rocket to to be in. |
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The thing about Roman is, it's not so much that he's "bad", it's just that he's poised to be booked as being far and away better than 99% of the roster. They're trying to push the narrative that Roman is the new "GOAT". And while he's not bad, there's nothing about him that truly says "GOAT". His character and promo work are both pretty mediocre. His wrestling isn't bad, but it's not far and away better than most of the other guys in the mid and upper card.
The problem with Roman is that he's a solid talent, but he's not a "GOAT" talent, yet he's being booked like he is one. And not even in an ironic heel way, but in a "What we say goes, dammit!" kind of way. This is basically the same reason Cena has faced so much negativity as well; neither guy is "bad", but neither guy is the "GOAT" like WWE tries so hard to portray them to be.
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He's alright. More "Meh" than anything else. I give him a 5.5 / 10
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Why you always talking about his dick tc?
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People are still making stupid justifications for Reigns and pretending they don't know why people don't like him?
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EffectAndCause posted...
BaronNugget posted...Well yeah Roman is a good wrestler but fans will always reject an undisputed top guy no matter how good he is. Daniel Bryan was never the undisputed top guy so don't know why you even mentioned him |
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Everybody that has any sort of tie with WWE, any, official or unofficial, will tow the line and say Roman is getting a "raw deal" from the fans and that "he's the bess" and shit.
WWE has indoctrinated God King Roman in everybody, and if anybody dares say otherwise they will suffer the consequences.
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EverDownward posted...
Everybody that has any sort of tie with WWE, any, official or unofficial, will tow the line and say Roman is getting a "raw deal" from the fans and that "he's the bess" and shit. Black Helicopters, etc
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- Big Dick Meltz: People pretend in their own minds that the Big Dawg isn't good
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- Big Dick Meltz: People pretend in their own minds that the Big Dawg isn't good
Dynedux posted...EverDownward posted...
Everybody that has any sort of tie with WWE, any, official or unofficial, will tow the line and say Roman is getting a "raw deal" from the fans and that "he's the bess" and shit.
WWE has indoctrinated God King Roman in everybody, and if anybody dares say otherwise they will suffer the consequences.
Black Helicopters, etc
I think maybe Austin is the only person I can legitimately think of that has ever rightfully criticized Roman.http://i.imgur.com/DKNJbBm.jpg
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He's been on the backburner since returning.
How the fuck is Finn Balor comparable to Roman Reigns in terms of a push? Fuck me.
Some dumb posts on this board.
"...H-H-He was tossed into the midcard as soon as he returned" No, he wasn't.
It actually took awhile for Finn to actually get tossed into the midcard and even that doesn't erase how utterly terrible his mega-push is even compared to Okada and Roman Reigns.
Stop defending stupid shit because "it's not like he's in the Main Event anymore", you can't criticize one person and suddenly pretend it's okay for another for some stupid reason. Next thing I'm going to hear is that it's okay for performers who leave for months come back, be handed a title shot and win in a single month because "They earned it for years of work" like the title is some star you get from a teacher in kindergarten.- Boards
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