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I remember he was pretty hot during his feud with Miz but then he kinda died out.
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Theres a reason why....AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA
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He DID get over.
People forget this but there was a period after he split with Miz where he got huge reactions every night. Then they made him lose all the time, he was only on TV half the time and then he vanished from TV. After that every now and then he would pop up on Superstars (usually losing) and he'd still get a decent pop for someone who is never used on TV and has no storyline. Riley got over. The only reason he never stayed over was because WWE took him off TV and did nothing with him.
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Because he was only the flavor of the month at best and wasn't really going to go anywhere whether Cena was involved or not.
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Because he was a dull, bland, white bread looking motherfucker who was only interesting when he was opposite Miz.
Once that feud ended and it was time to sink or swim on his own, he wasn't even slightly interesting and couldn't keep people behind him, despite having a dope theme.
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Because he looked like a 40 year old while rocking a varsity jacket and didn't do Jack **** after the Miz turn.
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EffectAndCause posted...
He was hugely over post-Miz. This, we’ll never know if Cena was justified in his actions, but that is what happened and not just a rumor since they had Roman mention it on TV.
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pycho316 posted...
Because he was a dull, bland, white bread looking motherfucker who was only interesting when he was opposite Miz. This.
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Riley seemed like someone much more suited to play a heel than a face. I think they could've really had Miz influence Riley into a big heel character, but they saw potential in doing a split and feud instead. And Riley was over in that feud. But he just didn't really portray a good face. The "heel jock" persona could've been something, but when he turned face, he was basically another bland white meat babyface, and it was okay initially, but being a face just wasn't his strong suit, at least not at the time. He needed to be a more fleshed out heel first.
Granted, either way, it seems like he mostly got derailed by politics and attitude problems, and later on, injuries.
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I like how people just justify away WWE straight squandering opportunities. Like no one is saying Alex Riley or Sandow would set the word on fire, but from a business standpoint why not make the most money off of a thing that people want?
The personal side of WWE will be its end. Seriously. This company will probably be in the red over the next one or two yearly reports. Will be downgrading and cutting budgets while pretending, "Nah we just changin' stuff!" Keep tarping seats. When they could have pocketed how much off of people like Sandow, Riley, Bad News Barrett, Ziggler, Nexus and probably a million other people I can't even remember because it's happend so much? Just run them until people don't care and you've gotten every penny instead of having the same cycle of "lose every match/vanish from tv but still get pops every time you show up/ get fired". Vince is smart enough to know like everyone who's already pointed it out, that these dudes probably wouldn't have been actual threats to his golden boys. But the tiny possibility they might has cost Vince millions and most of those people their jobs.
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All of the above, and he looked quite old for his actual age.
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JokedUp posted...
I like how people just justify away WWE straight squandering opportunities. Like no one is saying Alex Riley or Sandow would set the word on fire, but from a business standpoint why not make the most money off of a thing that people want? Yeah, I mean, that's one of the things I always find the most puzzling about WWE. People within the company always seem to express that they want to "make new stars" all the time, but most of the time, WWE already has an idea in mind of who they REALLY want to push and "make stars", and they seemingly care very little about anyone else. They'll briefly give a half-assed "pushed" to some people, like Riley and Sandow, but then they give up almost instantly, then those guys are either back to low card meandering, or they're off TV altogether. Why? Why not try to do something with and maximize the gains you can get on a particular worker? Guys like Riley and Sandow were admittedly probably never going to be multiple time world champion main event guys, or anything like that, but they could've went a lot further than they did. But WWE just didn't care enough to even try.
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MRW1215 posted...
JokedUp posted...I like how people just justify away WWE straight squandering opportunities. Like no one is saying Alex Riley or Sandow would set the word on fire, but from a business standpoint why not make the most money off of a thing that people want?
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He was so meh. I'm glad his push ended quickly
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He didn't have the Miz to hold his hand anymore.
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I loved his theme and he looked great in nxt as the jaded veteran
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Honestly don't get a lot of posts in here. He got great reactions post Miz, he was genuinely not given a single angle after the angle with Miz ended. He wasn't given a chance to continue where he was headed at all.
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Shanty_Irishman posted...
EffectAndCause posted...He was hugely over post-Miz. Undertaker should be arrested he murdered his family and burnt his brother. not just a rumor since they had Paul Bearer mention it on tv
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he was never going anywhere
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because john cena nuff
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The best thing he ever did was get his ass kicked by Kevin Owens.
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ShadowRaiden00 posted...
he was never going anywhere He's garbage
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Shanty_Irishman posted...
EffectAndCause posted...He was hugely over post-Miz. Roman called Riley by name?
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TundraKing87 posted...
Because he looked like a 40 year old while rocking a varsity jacket and didn't do Jack **** after the Miz turn. The difference is Sandow was over before that completely fucking stupid copycat gimmick.
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Markispsycho posted...
Honestly don't get a lot of posts in here. He got great reactions post Miz, he was genuinely not given a single angle after the angle with Miz ended. He wasn't given a chance to continue where he was headed at all. This. The sink or swim thing makes no sense when he's not in any storylines. We KNOW wrestlerd in the WWE can't create their own stories and characters on tv so why do people act like WWE not using guys is the wrestler's fault? Riley can't force himself in a midcard match on Raw. Someone who actually fails to connect to the crowd like Roman can get chance after chance until they actually can and they are seen as someone who proved their worth lol. |
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n00bsaib0t posted...
Shanty_Irishman posted...EffectAndCause posted...He was hugely over post-Miz. 
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dawnset posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...Shanty_Irishman posted...EffectAndCause posted...He was hugely over post-Miz. Now that is some extreme SHOOTING right there.
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BaronNugget posted...
dawnset posted...n00bsaib0t posted...Shanty_Irishman posted...EffectAndCause posted...He was hugely over post-Miz. Yeah I must have missed that one. I didn't necessarily doubt he would have said it considering the nature of the feud I just didn't remember it happening.
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BaronNugget posted...
dawnset posted...n00bsaib0t posted...Shanty_Irishman posted...EffectAndCause posted...He was hugely over post-Miz. extreme reading of internet forums |
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I might be thinking of someone else, but didn't he sandbag like Jack Swagger or something? I thought it was immediately after that they started burying him.
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TundraKing87 posted...
Because he looked like a 40 year old while rocking a varsity jacket and didn't do Jack **** after the Miz turn. THIS. Lack of character development got Riley...
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PesticideDream posted...
I might be thinking of someone else, but didn't he sandbag like Jack Swagger or something? I thought it was immediately after that they started burying him. He did sandbag Swagger, although it was almost certainly an accident as Swagger had hit Riley with a really stiff looking elbow to the back of the head and when he fell down Riley smacked his face and neck on the second rope. Then Swagger went for the powerbomb and Riley was clearly loopy and not all there. Regardless, he wasn't depushed immediately after the Swagger thing anyway. He was still regularly appearing on Raw and Smackdown for a month afterward including a Fatal Four Way for the US Title at Night of Champions 2011. It wasn't until after that he was shipped to Superstars, and even then he mostly won on Superstars for the first few months. Finally in early 2012, about 4 months after the Swagger thing, he was suddenly jobbing to everyone on Superstars, on his rare Raw and Smackdown appearances, and even on house shows despite being a babyface.
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JimPean posted...
NEVER FORGET OURGUY WARNED US HOW BAD THE PRODUCT WAS ABOUT TO GET He also warned us he was about to get fired. Well not really but in his last ever promo he said something like "Next week the fury of Alex Riley is going to be released!" And then next week he was released.
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JimPean posted...
NEVER FORGET OURGUY WARNED US HOW BAD THE PRODUCT WAS ABOUT TO GET I wish something actually came out of this.
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Maze_ posted...
"Next week the fury of Alex Riley is going to be released!" STRAIGHT SHOOTER |
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Markispsycho posted...
Honestly don't get a lot of posts in here. He got great reactions post Miz, he was genuinely not given a single angle after the angle with Miz ended. He wasn't given a chance to continue where he was headed at all. I feel the same way. I think the whole notion that he was too bland and yadda yadda goes out the window when he was objectively still getting great reactions wayyyy after the Miz feud. Like I'm no Riley mark and I don't really know why people liked him, but hell, they did. I know sometimes people like to play the company line that if he were good enough he would've received more opportunities and it was sink or swim and all that sort of stuff. But I don't think that applies to Riley. I think he's a pretty clear case of someone who they could have run with, and they didn't, for no particularly good reason. I always look at Ryback the same way. There's really no particularly good reason why he didn't get a better shot. You can say all you want about bad attitudes or lack of abilities in certain areas, and there will probably be 50 examples of people who were in that same boat and who WWE still pushed in the past. So Ryback will always be a headscratcher for me.
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He was pretty awful in-ring, I personally didn't see him going anywhere Cena or not. He was over though.
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Quintana88 posted...
I think the whole notion that he was too bland and yadda yadda goes out the window when he was objectively still getting great reactions wayyyy after the Miz feud. Like I'm no Riley mark and I don't really know why people liked him, but hell, they did. I don't get why people have such a hard time understanding how this can happen. Riley was a vanilla, boring guy, who was involved in a time tested story designed to get someone over (sidekick/partner/servant/student of the heinous hated heel who finally has enough and turns on his protege). He was partnered up with Miz who, while I'm not a huge Miz fan, I'll give credit where it's due, the guy is a heat magnet and knows how to make other people hate him. So Miz is working overtime doing what he does really well and making people hate him and Riley is, by proxy, the babyface who fans want to see kick his ass. He looks like a million bucks cause Miz is really good at his job. Once their feud is over, Riley is in about as good a place as he can be in and at that point it's his job to, hopefully, keep his momentum going. Initially fans are still hot for him because Miz has done such a good job of building him up. However he no longer has the same white hot feud to help him (seriously does anyone remember who he worked with after Miz? I don't!) and over the coming weeks and months fans start realizing "Damn, I don't think I noticed before but this guy is kind of boring." He's pretty bland in the ring, he's bland on the microphone, he's even bland looking and has a bland personality. After having very average matches and very average feuds people start cooling off on him and slowly but surely his fan support dwindles and then eventually it's like "Oh..... it's that guy." and that was it for Riley. And understand, I don't hate or dislike Riley. I have almost no real feelings towards him (which is half the problem sadly). It's not hard to understand why someone can be white hot after being really well booked and working opposite a guy the crowd just fucking loathes and then keeping SOME of that sizzle for awhile after getting out of that feud. It doesn't mean the guy was doing anything really well. It just takes awhile for someone's heat to cool off. That's all that was going on with Alex Riley.
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Check him out on the Netflix GLOW series (warning it's pretty adult oriented).
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For what it's worth I liked what he was doing when he returned to NXT with dark/longer hair. But he lasted like 2-3 weeks before being released. I think his last match was a taped one with Nakamura.
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They jobbed him off of TV.
That is the objective answer.
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pycho316 posted...
Once their feud is over, Riley is in about as good a place as he can be in and at that point it's his job to, hopefully, keep his momentum going. Initially fans are still hot for him because Miz has done such a good job of building him up. However he no longer has the same white hot feud to help him (seriously does anyone remember who he worked with after Miz? I don't!) and over the coming weeks and months fans start realizing "Damn, I don't think I noticed before but this guy is kind of boring.” This is the notion I dispute. I don’t think that’s what happened with Riley because, as I mentioned, I remember being perplexed for like, years, as to why this guy kept getting a great reaction for so damn long. I don’t think anyone (or at least the majority of his fans) just up and decided he was boring. I just looked it up on Wiki and apparently he was in the US Title picture before an injury sidelined him, and when he came back, he was only ever on Superstars. That was pretty much a wrap for his career: he went on a 12-match losing streak the next year. I don’t think that’s fully on him. WWE basically got tired of him and/or forgot him after his injury. It wasn’t that he didn’t catch on with the fans - it was one storyline! Yeah guys have to work hard, talk to Vince, push for opportunities blah blah blah. But I think we all know that when WWE makes up its mind about a person, it’s hard to get them to change their mind. I think WWE could have given him more than that one post-Miz storyline to make an impact.
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 At 5:59. Alex Riley attacks Percy Watson (who was on his side) for some reason lol
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