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- Regarding the finish of Brock Lesnar vs. Braun Strowman at No Mercy, it was reportedly what WWE originally had planned for the match. Lesnar vs. Strowman was initially going to take place at Great Balls of Fire until Strowman got injured. Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns is still expected to be the main event of Wrestlemania 34 and the Strowman match was merely something for Lesnar to do until then. Despite Strowman's recent momentum, WWE decided to stick with the original plan. - Regarding Brock Lesnar's next opponent, the current belief is that Finn Balor will be Lesnar's next challenger for the Universal Title at either Survivor Series or Royal Rumble. In storyline, Balor still hasn't gotten a one-on-one match for the title since he had to forfeit it. Also, WWE booked Balor strongly at the No Mercy PPV which indicates that he will be the next challenger for Lesnar. It was also rumored that Seth Rollins would face Lesnar again but Rollins is currently involved in the tag team with Dean Ambrose. |
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I enjoyed Reigns v Lesnar I, but if we're getting II... I ain't too sure.
I mean, the ending kind of made the match if I'm being honest, but if we're getting a clean Roman pin, forget it.
Via_Negativa. Y'all 'ready know.
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last night really hurt brauns character. losing clean after a single f5 is bs
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I don't get how they can do a Finn/Lesnar feud without Finn winning.
I don't care about size but WWE does. So it would be a David vs Goliath feud where... Goliath wins? What kind of story is that? "The small weaker man bravely stepped up to the unstoppable larger opponent and with the faith of God in his heart got smushed into the ground like an egg under the treads of a large tank. The end."
When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner.
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Maze_ posted...
I don't get how they can do a Finn/Lesnar feud without Finn winning. You haven't watched WWE very long have you? |
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You could have Finn win and it wouldn't be so ridiculous, tbh. He just needs to avoid shit and take out Brock's legs with them running drop kicks.
I mean... if Rey Mysterio can be the giant killer... say no more. I mean, Kofi had a puncher's chance at that house show (beast in the east) if they go toe to toe it would look silly... but if Finn has a strategy of running and attacking... making lesnar do himself in with runs into the turnbuckles and stairs few dirty eye gouges... joint manipulation
Via_Negativa. Y'all 'ready know.
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King_Fenig posted...
You could have Finn win and it wouldn't be so ridiculous, tbh. He just needs to avoid shit and take out Brock's legs with them running drop kicks. No sorry
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KBGiantsfan posted...
King_Fenig posted... Yeah... you weren't even alive when Rey Mysterio was the giant killer, so be quiet. it's unthinkable to you because you've never seen shit like that happen in YOUR LIFE. it's wrestling... not UFC... and you don't know anything about it... so NAH... "no sorry" to you and your attempts at 'fitting in' on this board.
Via_Negativa. Y'all 'ready know.
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Maze_ posted...
I don't get how they can do a Finn/Lesnar feud without Finn winning. There's an active topic where some people defend Triple h telling a black guy that people like him aren't good enough to be champion and then beating him So david and Goliath barely rates tbh
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Maze_ posted...
I don't get how they can do a Finn/Lesnar feud without Finn winning. See: Summer Slam 2014 Brock Lesnar vs John Cena
Less is more.
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KeJo6 posted...
So suplex city vs dropkick village? Slingblade village
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KeJo6 posted... There's a joke about the Irish and French fried p'taters mmmhmm in there. But I wont. I'm a bigger man than that.
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Balor vs Lesnar needs to be a TLC match or something like that, so that there's a chance Balor could win without having to pin Lesnar, and then he still loses.
Slow and steady wins the race
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mrlowrider posted...
That's because none of the people complaining were actually watching when it happened. Booker T was the kayfabe dominant one in that feud, beat Triple H before and after mainia, and only lost due to cheating. Came out of the feud looking better + the biggest reason HHH won was because Nash was coming back and they needed a program. Face Nash vs Face Booker would be a mess. It's not comparable. Brock is Kayfabe Bizzaro Superman. Finn is kayfabe little boy Robin. Who wants to read a story about evil Superman beating the shit out of Robin as anyone would expect him to with no surprises or tricks? There's no real purpose to the story unless Robin wins.
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Why the fuck did I waste my time on you. This reflects so poorly on me
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Maze_ posted...
I don't get how they can do a Finn/Lesnar feud without Finn winning. Umm easy. They have a match and Brock wins. Brock vs Roman with Roman winning is the goal. Finn is just a placeholder. He will probably go fight Miz after that
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snoochtonooch posted...
And Brock could have a math with Emma and win What's the point tho?
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to get their dates out of brock and boost the appeal of the network
this isnt hard, wwe arent interested in crowning balor as the one who defeats lesnar for the title, we know its roman and we know they want it at wrestlemania they have dates with brock to fulfill and they regard him as a draw, balor is a matchup thats fresh and is easy to set up because finn was never beaten for the universal title. beyond that wwe isnt interested in telling a story. Im sure theyll give him a hope spot or two and hope he doesnt come out of it needing rehabing like braun does but so be it if so to you, finn being built as an underdog that overcomes the beast might be a better story than lol roman wins but its not one that wwe are going to tell |
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new star gaining momentum and getting over? better feed 'em to brock like it's 2003!
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I knew that Finn would be up next.
I really don't understand why the fuck they would book their entire program around Roman and Brock. If they're so determined to have that match just fucking do it and get it out of the way.
People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism.
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I csnt see a match happening where Baylor looks even remotely convincing winning s
Especially due to the way he fights I could see a guy like Bryan winning but not balor. Like even if he drop kicks him for ten minutes straight Brock is so ridiculously strong that it doesn't matter
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Sada_Pop posted...
I knew that Finn would be up next. Roman toppling Brock on a throwaway ppv wouldn't be a big enough accolade for his highlight reel
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ad_Talking_He posted...
to get their dates out of brock and boost the appeal of the network But how will it help Finn by having Brock crush him and how will it build Brock towards Reigns by having Goliath beat David? You're sacrificing David for no reason. Literally just to "Fill a date" dat's dumb. Compare to Joe. Someone super talented who just needed a spotlight to get over. Put him with Lesnar when everyone knew he would lose and boom, Joe and Lesnar benefit. Same with Braun. Finn's already over and small. If the plan is Brock/Reigns in the future and this is just "To fill a date" Then use it for someone who would benefit. Like Matt Hardy or Sheamus or Cesaro or Big Cass or Apollo Crews. Just like they did with Braun and Joe. Where you can get fans invested and tell a story. Not "The small weaker man bravely stepped up to the unstoppable larger opponent and with the faith of God in his heart got smushed into the ground like an egg under the treads of a large tank. The end."
When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner.
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Maze_ posted...
ad_Talking_He posted... ok? you think its dumb and would do something different but thats not how wwe works and it hasnt for a long time. why would you tell a story about the long time top guy being dismissive of the next big thing and not willing to give up his spot only for them to have a match booked with zero regard for that story and have the top guy raise his hand at the end and the top guy not willing to give up god spot goes away anyway? cause its the only time they could fit that match in, build and follow up be damned theyre never going to book brock with anyone other than someone percived to be a top guy, and they dont book people with brock to help the other guy. if it helps them? great! if it doesnt? well theyre sort of over anyway and brock is a law on to himself so meh who cares is their attitude |
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ad_Talking_He posted...
But in Universe 7 where Joe and Braun never fought Brock on PPV you'd be saying this about them. Fighting Brock is what helps them be percived as a top guy, Sheamus USED to be a top guy and only stopped because they stopped booking him as such
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Maze_ posted...
ad_Talking_He posted... Sheamus used to be a top guy until after nearly a decade of underperforming they reconciled to have him be a dominant midcarder. Finn Balor is a top guy because people buy his ugly ass shirt and do that gesture in time with his entrance. Roman Reigns is a top guy not just because of nepotism but because morons browsing Hot Topic see his shirt.
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Maze_ posted...
ad_Talking_He posted... it helps but joe, braun and balor are about as big as it gets for guys that have been on the main roster for less than two years and without doing rematches you seem to be struggling with the concept. you continue to ask why dont you book this perennial midcarder with brock so said midcarder gets a rub even in defeat? because theyre not interested in that, they want to fulfil dates and get as much money and network subscriptions out of it as possible yes joe got hotter through feuding with brock but he was still another level above anyone you named, except perhaps the hardys, who theyre obviously not interested in doing much with in this first year or so |
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Maze_ posted... I would agree with the nepotism thing but.. Usos.
People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism.
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Weren't the Isis like tag team of the year 8 years in a row while having a stranglehold on the tag titles?
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Right on cue
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King_Fenig posted...
KBGiantsfan posted... Yeah, I wasn't alive when Rey was the giant killer in WCW against Nash. Lmfao I remember 1985 WWF, hell, I rememebr Rey doing shit to people off cars in ECW and I wasn't going to dignify your response with a reaponse but that's just hilarious...lmfao
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I'm not sure how you book a guy who's way smaller and not even faster or a better athlete than Brock to beat Brock. Am I supposed to believe Brock selling Finn's pathetic offense?
And lol at using the Mysterio defense. Dude was like a thousand times better an athlete in his prime than Finn.
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There is no more steam for Braun anymore. Everybody is just "meh" at this point. WWE ruins another one.
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Maze_ posted...
ad_Talking_He posted... Did it help Bob Holly?
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mrlowrider posted... Face Nash vs Heel HHH was a mess and not really what people wanted to see. Booker T was hot and should have gotten the belt, at least through the summer.
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^ But this ass-backward thinking WWEwas never gonna have Booker go over HHH for a world title.
I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down...
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Poet Laureate posted...
Maze_ posted... Goldberg had just signed with the company, and so it wouldn't have made sense for a face Booker to win the WHC and hold it through the summer when they were planning the big HHH vs. Goldberg feud. Besides, Booker ended up getting hurt and having to drop the IC Title before the summer was out anyway, so in hindsight it was probably better that that scenario didn't happen with him holding the WHC instead. |
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Roman should just main event every mania from here on out
Not changing until Big Show AND Rey Mysterio are both permanently gone from WWE. 10/28/2011
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DragonKing0 posted...
Poet Laureate posted...In hindsight it was still a terrible decision. The storyline mandated for Booker to beat HHH yet the WWE had HHH pick up the cleanest win of his run over a hot commodity. Even if Booker lost the title shortly after, at least he had won the match he was supposed to win.
1984: Ironically the GOAT year.
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laundrysucks posted...
Roman should just main event every mania from here on out He's probably going to for the next five or six, barring injury.
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We've had a main event heel who thinks he's a face for years now. His name is John Cena. |
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GPRailroad posted...
DragonKing0 posted... Booker was never supposed to win that match. He wasn't being groomed for a main event run. The storyline mandated nothing. It was not some half-year angle that was building towards Booker taking the title in the WM main event (e.g. like Daniel Bryan's story had been in 13/14). It was a few weeks worth of cheap heat to sustain a stopgap feud between Triple H's matches with Steiner earlier and Nash and Goldberg after. Booker was a tag team worker prior to WM, and then used the extra rub from the program with Triple H to move into the singles division and capture the IC Title. That was what his push mandated. And then he got hurt right after winning that belt and had to drop it at a house show before taking months off. People look back at the manner in which Triple H won, and the racism overtones in the buildup, and try to paint it as if Booker was destined to win the WHC at WrestleMania, only to be buried by HHH. In fact, Goldberg had just signed with the company and Kevin Nash was returning from injury, and those were the guys that they wanted to get world title shots in the summer/fall of 2003. It just didn't make sense to hotshot the title to Booker for a few months, only to give it back to Trips and try to have him look strong for those feuds. Booker was primed for a solid midcard run with the IC title after his feud with Triple H, got that push, and then got hurt. |
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DragonKing0 posted...
Booker was a tag team worker prior to WM The 5 time WCW Champion Booker T that made his WWE debut as a singles star and who's first major feud was with Steve Austin?
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n00bsaib0t posted...
DragonKing0 posted... Yes. Booker's spot had declined a lot since those days, well before the feud with Triple H. He had spent the later months of 2002 competing for the Hardcore title, getting kicked out of the NWO, feuding with the likes of Big Show, and finally working the tag division with Goldust. He was not on a main event trajectory going into WrestleMania 19. If anything, the feud with Triple H in 2003 put Booker on the road back to being a solid singles star, priming him for a run with the IC Title before perhaps actually rising to the main event afterwards. But Booker got hurt soon after winning the IC belt, had to drop it at a house show, and was out for several months. That did more to hurt his push than anything Triple H did. |
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Just saw the Booker's programme as an excuse for HHH to be racist but thinly mask it up in Kayfabe.
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DragonKing0 posted...
GPRailroad posted...When you have a feud in which the heel is racist toward the face, the face is SUPPOSED to win. In no way was it right for HHH to walk out of Wrestlemania with the WHC after the things he said to Booker T. You can make all the excuses you want but it doesn't matter. Booker could have won the match and dropped the title later. It's literally that simple.
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Guess it's back of the queue for Strowman.
I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down...
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Why bother building Finn? He is going to be over and sell merch no matter what. He can be pushed again later. Obviously you have a hard on for Finn but he doesn't need to be in the main event or the top guy
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GPRailroad posted...
DragonKing0 posted... No cuz booker T just wasn't on that level yet.
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snoochtonooch posted...No cuz booker T just wasn't on that level yet.
Then he shouldn't have been booked in a storyline that was set up for him to win in the first place.
You don't have the heel make blatant racist remarks against the babyface just for the heel to win the match.1984: Ironically the GOAT year.Finn is going to be slaughtered by the beast it wont even be close. hell get his few moves in but I predict a another boring powerhouse 1 sided brock to show up
Also lets be real pups, who isnt hyped for mania roman vs brock match I cant wait for the rematch with a stronger roman coming back. 2018 going to be so hype for him and the shield its good to have the crew back"Why do you hesitate to extend the power of Macedon - your power"-Alexander The Great \_O__/ >>>> l__O__l "YES"."YES"GPRailroad posted...snoochtonooch posted...
No cuz booker T just wasn't on that level yet.
Then he shouldn't have booked him in a storyline that he was set up to win.
You don't have the heel make blatant racist remarks against the babyface just to have the heel win.
HHH does and did so fuck him.I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down...Hardcore_Adult posted...GPRailroad posted...
Dang, you quoted me before I could edit it...snoochtonooch posted...
No cuz booker T just wasn't on that level yet.
Then he shouldn't have booked him in a storyline that he was set up to win.
You don't have the heel make blatant racist remarks against the babyface just to have the heel win.
HHH does and did so fuck him.1984: Ironically the GOAT year.Nobody responds to stuff quicker than the pissed-off.I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down...GPRailroad posted...snoochtonooch posted...
No cuz booker T just wasn't on that level yet.
Then he shouldn't have been booked in a storyline that was set up for him to win in the first place.
You don't have the heel make blatant racist remarks against the babyface just for the heel to win the match.
You do when the heel is the top talent on the brand and the challenger is popular but not mega over enough to win a top title at mania. Which was what happened here. Booker T in WWE is a midcard talent. In WCW he was a midcard talent until everyone left at the end and it was him Steiner and Jarrett. He needed the real stars to get hurt or go home to get to the tophttp://www.last.fm/user/snoochtonooch
official protector of Cuddles the kitten of the rock boardsnoochtonooch posted...GPRailroad posted...
snoochtonooch posted...
No cuz booker T just wasn't on that level yet.
Then he shouldn't have been booked in a storyline that was set up for him to win in the first place.
You don't have the heel make blatant racist remarks against the babyface just for the heel to win the match.
You do when the heel is the top talent on the brand and the challenger is popular but not mega over enough to win a top title at mania. Which was what happened here. Booker T in WWE is a midcard talent. In WCW he was a midcard talent until everyone left at the end and it was him Steiner and Jarrett. He needed the real stars to get hurt or go home to get to the top
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No you don't.snoochtonooch posted...
No cuz booker T just wasn't on that level yet.
Then he shouldn't have been booked in a storyline that was set up for him to win in the first place.
You don't have the heel make blatant racist remarks against the babyface just for the heel to win the match.
You do when the heel is the top talent on the brand and the challenger is popular but not mega over enough to win a top title at mania. Which was what happened here. Booker T in WWE is a midcard talent. In WCW he was a midcard talent until everyone left at the end and it was him Steiner and Jarrett. He needed the real stars to get hurt or go home to get to the top1984: Ironically the GOAT year.He got the chance and WCW still died. He was never a top guy.http://www.last.fm/user/snoochtonooch
official protector of Cuddles the kitten of the rock boardsnoochtonooch posted...He got the chance and WCW still died. He was never a top guy.
Then neither were Flair and Sting.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
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official protector of Cuddles the kitten of the rock boardsnoochtonooch posted...???? Flair and Sting weren't the top of the card at the end. Flair was barely around from 97-on
Pretty convinced you never saw WCW
Goal post moving. And yes, Sting was at the top.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
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Posts but booker didn't go over H, was never a top guy in the WWE and didn't headline a HoF. Triple H did go over is still a top guy and will go in the HoF 3 timeshttp://www.last.fm/user/snoochtonooch
official protector of Cuddles the kitten of the rock boardsnoochtonooch posted...Say what you want about moving the goal
Posts but booker didn't go over H, was never a top guy in the WWE and didn't headline a HoF. Triple H did go over is still a top guy and will go in the HoF 3 times
Booker is every bit the top guy Triple H is, since neither one were ever the face of the company.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahnsnoochtonooch posted...Say what you want about moving the goal
What asinine "logic".
Posts but booker didn't go over H, was never a top guy in the WWE and didn't headline a HoF. Triple H did go over is still a top guy and will go in the HoF 3 times
Also, you can see into the future? Get that crystal ball back out and see if I get this job I want.1984: Ironically the GOAT year.GPRailroad posted...snoochtonooch posted...
No cuz booker T just wasn't on that level yet.
Then he shouldn't have been booked in a storyline that was set up for him to win in the first place.
You don't have the heel make blatant racist remarks against the babyface just for the heel to win the match.
As I said before, that was just cheap heat designed to prop up a stopgap feud. It was not the culmination of a lengthy storyline where Triple H was trying to hold Booker T down. People look back and talk as if HHH acting racist for a few short weeks meant that Booker was destined to win the WHC. In fact, it was simply another tasteless angle from the writers of that era. Keep in mind that the Katie Vick storyline took place just a few months prior.- Boards
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