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Dynedux posted...
Johnny Blaque posted...
bigjclassic posted...
pricelesslegacy posted...
bigjclassic posted...
ad_Talking_He posted...
if it’s because he’s been told that they don’t see anything for him beyond the cruiserweight division then he absolutely should leave.


He is dumb, his job is to elevate the division and it looks like he was all for himself. Brain Kendrick is trying to elevate the division same with a few others, I just think it's in poor taste if true.

Kendrick is a veteran who has been around since 2003 at least. Neville is in the prime of his career what the f*** are you talking about?


WWE likes company performers and people that will work for them and help out with certain things. That is why people like the Miz and Cena get rewarded because they do plenty of things for WWE.

If true, Neville is looking out for Neville and there is nothing wrong with that, just don't expect a mega push. 

In life you have to earn stuff, and he did a great job as champ. Now he needs to work with the guys under him to bring them up to his level.

It's basic pro wrestling. Sheamus, Orton, Dean and so many former champs work with underneath guys to put them over, that is how it works.


What? Orton gave management his ass to kiss for years and they rewarded him. What is Dean doing? Or Rollins? I mean Everybody does make a wish stuff so that's not it. And Neville has been working with and putting over talent his whole career. Tell me the last time Neville squashed a dude.

His entire CW run, basically.


Meh, those were competitive matches. Isn't that why they were praised?
bigpatpunchhard posted...
DominicanGlory posted...
Bulls***. If Nakamura, AJ and Balor can be seen as main event players what's holding Neville back?

He's better on the mic than all three of those guys, better in the ring than Nak and Balor, on par or even better than AJ and he has a lot of charisma. There's no reason to think he has a glass ceiling. The man s***tered it a long time ago.

wtf lol

Nice counterpoint
DominicanGlory posted...
bigpatpunchhard posted...
DominicanGlory posted...
Bulls***. If Nakamura, AJ and Balor can be seen as main event players what's holding Neville back?

He's better on the mic than all three of those guys, better in the ring than Nak and Balor, on par or even better than AJ and he has a lot of charisma. There's no reason to think he has a glass ceiling. The man s***tered it a long time ago.

wtf lol

Nice counterpoint

You're absolutely right. Nothing to say.
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musumane 1 day ago#154
MRW1215 posted...
bigjclassic posted...
WWE likes company performers and people that will work for them and help out with certain things. That is why people like the Miz and Cena get rewarded because they do plenty of things for WWE.


People always talk about the "extra work" guys like Cena and Miz do, but honestly, I've never seen evidence to suggest that "no one else" on the roster is willing to do these things. Rather, it seems like these opportunities just aren't presented to a lot of other workers. WWE will pick the workers they feel are the more "presentable" to represent them on talk shows and charity events, and whatnot. Would Neville do that extra work? I dunno, but I'd wager that he's never even been asked to do it, by WWE.

bigjclassic posted...
It's basic pro wrestling. Sheamus, Orton, Dean and so many former champs work with underneath guys to put them over, that is how it works.


Sure, sure, but workers also shouldn't "settle" and be complacent with not being able to move up anymore. I'm sure Neville would've been happy to put over some other workers in the CW, and then move on to bigger and better things for himself. Instead, they gave Tozawa a week long title run, and then threw the belt back at Neville just so he could drop it to Enzo. And in the meantime, he was probably having behind the scenes discussions about his future prospects, and was probably given the "We don't currently have anything lined up for you" line, and/ or was told there were no opportunities for him outside of the CW division.


About Cena and Miz, both, and many other superstars, have gone on record and said they do all the extra stuff because they want to. Think of it this way, do you really think WWE wouldn't put Roman in the make a wish spot, or have him be the person primary promoting 2K18 the game if given the chance?

And I am getting real sick of people acting like wrestlers are owed anything. It's a job. You don't like your job you quit. This whole " contracted free agents " crap needs to be done away with. You signed a contract for ?????? amount for ? years, you have 0 right to complain as long as you are getting payed.
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DominicanGlory posted...

Nice counterpoint

Thanks, was in the debate team at school
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musumane posted...
MRW1215 posted...
bigjclassic posted...
WWE likes company performers and people that will work for them and help out with certain things. That is why people like the Miz and Cena get rewarded because they do plenty of things for WWE.


People always talk about the "extra work" guys like Cena and Miz do, but honestly, I've never seen evidence to suggest that "no one else" on the roster is willing to do these things. Rather, it seems like these opportunities just aren't presented to a lot of other workers. WWE will pick the workers they feel are the more "presentable" to represent them on talk shows and charity events, and whatnot. Would Neville do that extra work? I dunno, but I'd wager that he's never even been asked to do it, by WWE.

bigjclassic posted...
It's basic pro wrestling. Sheamus, Orton, Dean and so many former champs work with underneath guys to put them over, that is how it works.


Sure, sure, but workers also shouldn't "settle" and be complacent with not being able to move up anymore. I'm sure Neville would've been happy to put over some other workers in the CW, and then move on to bigger and better things for himself. Instead, they gave Tozawa a week long title run, and then threw the belt back at Neville just so he could drop it to Enzo. And in the meantime, he was probably having behind the scenes discussions about his future prospects, and was probably given the "We don't currently have anything lined up for you" line, and/ or was told there were no opportunities for him outside of the CW division.


About Cena and Miz, both, and many other superstars, have gone on record and said they do all the extra stuff because they want to. Think of it this way, do you really think WWE wouldn't put Roman in the make a wish spot, or have him be the person primary promoting 2K18 the game if given the chance?

And I am getting real sick of people acting like wrestlers are owed anything. It's a job. You don't like your job you quit. This whole " contracted free agents " crap needs to be done away with. You signed a contract for ?????? amount for ? years, you have 0 right to complain as long as you are getting payed.

Except in normal jobs you do well and prove yourself you get promoted and/or a raise. In WWE you suck Vince Or Kevin's cock to get to the top.

Also, it's paid.
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SmashBurb 1 day ago#158
HatchetandShank posted...
Doubt this is true but I figured he'd be f***ed when his time as CW champ was over anyways so if it is true he probably knows it too. Not like they have any long term plans for anyone not named Roman.


This is such a stupid narrative.

Rollins, Styles, and Owens always have clear cut long term plans, but you guys just disregard that because you think it's cool for your faves to be UNDERDOGS HELD DOWN BY THE MACHINE!!111

GameGodOfAll posted...
THEY BUILT AN ENTIRE DIVISION AND SHOW AROUND NEVILLE

I hate anyone saying they didn't utilize him properly. The worst you can say is that he was snuffed and put on the pre show multiple times.

Now if you want to speculate on where they planned to take him from here that is a whole different story and one I can actually agree with because IF this is true I would think that would be the most likely reasoning. If they had no plans to advance him by the end of the year then that is a problem.


They say that about everyone they don't hate.

Even the indy darlings that were put in the World Title picture or given the World Title were somehow under-utilized.
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Dynedux 1 day ago#159
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MRW1215 1 day ago#160
DominicanGlory posted...
Bulls***. If Nakamura, AJ and Balor can be seen as main event players what's holding Neville back?

He's better on the mic than all three of those guys, better in the ring than Nak and Balor, on par or even better than AJ and he has a lot of charisma. There's no reason to think he has a glass ceiling. The man s***tered it a long time ago.


I say that Neville has more of a "ceiling" than those guys because while Neville is very good, he lacks the "charisma" to really get people to latch on to him in a big way.

Say what you will about the mic skills of Balor and Nakamura, but even still, they both have more inherent "charisma" than Neville, and thus, they have a better connection with the audience. Heck, you also have Jeff Hardy, who is horrid on the mic and mostly gets by on high spots for his ring work, yet he's still crazy over with the audience. Neville is very, very good, but he just lacks that certain something that draws people to his presence.
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Dynedux posted...
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"Holy s*** if Neville joined up with the Bullet Club, WWE would go out of business right away since Bullet Club are a world famous stable who are much better than those losers in the Shield and NJPW is going to become the top wrestling company in the world very soon because Neville vs. Nomo Noki would draw all the casuals. WWE is f***ed!!"
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BaronNugget posted...
"Holy s*** if Neville joined up with the Bullet Club, WWE would go out of business right away since Bullet Club are a world famous stable who are much better than those losers in the Shield and NJPW is going to become the top wrestling company in the world very soon because Neville vs. Nomo Noki would draw all the casuals. WWE is f***ed!!"

Casual racism from BaronNugget.

The only surprise is the "casual" part. We all expect him to go full Jinder Mahal every time he posts.
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Dynedux 1 day ago#165
BaronNugget posted...
"Holy s*** if Neville joined up with the Bullet Club, WWE would go out of business right away since Bullet Club are a world famous stable who are much better than those losers in the Shield and NJPW is going to become the top wrestling company in the world very soon because Neville vs. Nomo Noki would draw all the casuals. WWE is f***ed!!"
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SmashBurb 1 day ago#166
Dynedux posted...
BaronNugget posted...
"Holy s*** if Neville joined up with the Bullet Club, WWE would go out of business right away since Bullet Club are a world famous stable who are much better than those losers in the Shield and NJPW is going to become the top wrestling company in the world very soon because Neville vs. Nomo Noki would draw all the casuals. WWE is f***ed!!"
SmashBurb posted...
Dynedux posted...
BaronNugget posted...
"Holy s*** if Neville joined up with the Bullet Club, WWE would go out of business right away since Bullet Club are a world famous stable who are much better than those losers in the Shield and NJPW is going to become the top wrestling company in the world very soon because Neville vs. Nomo Noki would draw all the casuals. WWE is f***ed!!"

NJPW got you wwe marks shook I see.
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people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE
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DominicanGlory posted...
MRW1215 posted...
But, having said that, I can agree that Neville's potential is limited

Bulls***. If Nakamura, AJ and Balor can be seen as main event players what's holding Neville back?

He's better on the mic than all three of those guys, better in the ring than Nak and Balor, on par or even better than AJ and he has a lot of charisma. There's no reason to think he has a glass ceiling. The man s***tered it a long time ago.


He's smaller than Nakamura and less interesting looking and not as handsome or marketable as AJ or Balor

AJ is better than him on the mic by a fair margin. I'd even say Balor is smoother it's just Neville has a more fun character.

If I was a promoter I would definitely let Neville work in the midcard scene and dabble in the main event but I wouldn't push him over those guys
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darealest47 posted...
SmashBurb posted...
Dynedux posted...
BaronNugget posted...
"Holy s*** if Neville joined up with the Bullet Club, WWE would go out of business right away since Bullet Club are a world famous stable who are much better than those losers in the Shield and NJPW is going to become the top wrestling company in the world very soon because Neville vs. Nomo Noki would draw all the casuals. WWE is f***ed!!"

NJPW got you wwe marks shook I see.


Not as shook as your has-been qb.
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BaronNugget posted...
darealest47 posted...
SmashBurb posted...
Dynedux posted...
BaronNugget posted...
"Holy s*** if Neville joined up with the Bullet Club, WWE would go out of business right away since Bullet Club are a world famous stable who are much better than those losers in the Shield and NJPW is going to become the top wrestling company in the world very soon because Neville vs. Nomo Noki would draw all the casuals. WWE is f***ed!!"

NJPW got you wwe marks shook I see.


Not as shook as your has-been qb.

Lol, I don't even know what your football team is and I already know they ain't s*** compared to 6-Burgh. 
How many rings you got bro?
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Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX
won't change this sig until pittsburgh steelers gets their 7th ring
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2eVPxvaIzec
darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX


Wikipedia says HiaC drew 16k while KoPW drew less than 10k.

No idea if those figures are any way accurate though.
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darealest47 posted...
BaronNugget posted...
darealest47 posted...
SmashBurb posted...
Dynedux posted...
BaronNugget posted...
"Holy s*** if Neville joined up with the Bullet Club, WWE would go out of business right away since Bullet Club are a world famous stable who are much better than those losers in the Shield and NJPW is going to become the top wrestling company in the world very soon because Neville vs. Nomo Noki would draw all the casuals. WWE is f***ed!!"

NJPW got you wwe marks shook I see.


Not as shook as your has-been qb.

Lol, I don't even know what your football team is and I already know they ain't s*** compared to 6-Burgh. 
How many rings you got bro?


I like how you dodge the fact that Roethlisburger seems to be washed up and just brag about your Super Bowl wins in the past instead of worrying about your future because I don't think you will be changing that sig for a long time,

Just like the real Big Ben, he has stopped working by the looks of things.
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Worry about your sorry ass team, bro.

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Wait, the clock is broken?


Sorta, it's stopped chiming for 4 years because it needs fixing.
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Wow, that's pretty crazy. I heard that it was slowing down at one point and that was fixed. Didn't know it stopped chiming too.
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Dynedux 1 day ago#179
darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

Disingenuous picture comparison is disingenuous
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darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.
truffleshuffles posted...
darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
truffleshuffles posted...
darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao

It was taken during the pre show. There are multiple shots during the main show of it being much more full. People are just DESPERATE to try and push their silly agenda.
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DoubleJ9 1 day ago#185
bigpatpunchhard posted...
truffleshuffles posted...
darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao


Yep, because photo editing isn't a thing....

Not saying that this picture is edited, because I don't believe it is, just pointing out how dumb your comment is. 

This picture can be debunked on how relative it is to the argument. I can't tell who is in the ring, but this could be a picture of WWE's pre-show compared to NJPW's main card.
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JfAtS1O3N 1 day ago#188
bigpatpunchhard posted...
truffleshuffles posted...
darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao

Its been debunked by the fact that the attendance for HIAC was higher than the NJPW show.
bigpatpunchhard posted...
truffleshuffles posted...
darealest47 posted... 
Via_Negativa posted... 
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE... 

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product... 

delusional 

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao

You can, you just ignore how he did it to focus on the part you think you can argue.
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187mike 1 day ago#190
Thank you Neville!
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Dynedux 1 day ago#191
bigpatpunchhard posted...
truffleshuffles posted...
darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao

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bigpatpunchhard posted...
truffleshuffles posted...
darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao

when is the HiaC pic taken

if you can't prove when then this doesn't work

to be fair, the only pre show match was a tag (right?), and this looks to be 1 on 1
musumane 1 day ago#193
pricelesslegacy posted...
musumane posted...
MRW1215 posted...
bigjclassic posted...
WWE likes company performers and people that will work for them and help out with certain things. That is why people like the Miz and Cena get rewarded because they do plenty of things for WWE.


People always talk about the "extra work" guys like Cena and Miz do, but honestly, I've never seen evidence to suggest that "no one else" on the roster is willing to do these things. Rather, it seems like these opportunities just aren't presented to a lot of other workers. WWE will pick the workers they feel are the more "presentable" to represent them on talk shows and charity events, and whatnot. Would Neville do that extra work? I dunno, but I'd wager that he's never even been asked to do it, by WWE.

bigjclassic posted...
It's basic pro wrestling. Sheamus, Orton, Dean and so many former champs work with underneath guys to put them over, that is how it works.


Sure, sure, but workers also shouldn't "settle" and be complacent with not being able to move up anymore. I'm sure Neville would've been happy to put over some other workers in the CW, and then move on to bigger and better things for himself. Instead, they gave Tozawa a week long title run, and then threw the belt back at Neville just so he could drop it to Enzo. And in the meantime, he was probably having behind the scenes discussions about his future prospects, and was probably given the "We don't currently have anything lined up for you" line, and/ or was told there were no opportunities for him outside of the CW division.


About Cena and Miz, both, and many other superstars, have gone on record and said they do all the extra stuff because they want to. Think of it this way, do you really think WWE wouldn't put Roman in the make a wish spot, or have him be the person primary promoting 2K18 the game if given the chance?

And I am getting real sick of people acting like wrestlers are owed anything. It's a job. You don't like your job you quit. This whole " contracted free agents " crap needs to be done away with. You signed a contract for ?????? amount for ? years, you have 0 right to complain as long as you are getting payed.

Except in normal jobs you do well and prove yourself you get promoted and/or a raise. In WWE you suck Vince Or Kevin's cock to get to the top.

Also, it's paid.


During contract negotiations ? Sure. But when you sign a contract saying " I will work xxx years/dates for xxxxxx amount of money " you have 0 right to be like " oh I'm killing it right now, I should be in a better spot ".
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
truffleshuffles posted...
darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao

It was debunked when the guy from this board posted the pic from his phone in the crowd, before this stupid pre show pic was posted by Dizzy. Basically proven to be false before the claim was even made
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they’re not employees though, they’re independent contractors. f*** this company

Still employees. There's a lot more to it than what the fans see too. We don't know who the real egos and difficult people behind he scenes, those that can't be relied upon and who show up late
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DoubleJ9 1 day ago#197
bigpatpunchhard posted...
lmao photo editing, paranoid much?


I clearly stated that I didn't think the photo was edited, just that you can't count a photo as 100% true just because it's a picture. So yes, you can "debunk" a picture. At this point I don't know if you're trolling or just ignoring parts of posts.

ShadowRaiden00 posted...
bigpatpunchhard posted...
truffleshuffles posted...
darealest47 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

delusional

people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

HR5CFHX

that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao

when is the HiaC pic taken

if you can't prove when then this doesn't work

to be fair, the only pre show match was a tag (right?), and this looks to be 1 on 1


It is a 1v1 match, but I can't tell who it is. It looks like one guy has black pants with dark hair and no shirt, but that doesn't match anyone that was on the card (that I can think of). They do, at times, have other matches on the pre-show that aren't shown. Usually you can hear them going on while the kickoff panel is talking, or sometimes see them in the background. I don't know if this was the case here though.
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Neville is one of the very, very few people who if he left and became bitter towards WWE, I'd definitely be on his side. He would actually have valid points. Dude is legit a top 10 guy in the entire company and they limit the s*** out of him.
Legend.
like it’s clearly shelton on the apron with gable holding on of the hype bros in their corner, the other likely down the other side of the ring
Dynedux 1 day ago#200
It appears to be Aiden English
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    yeah,that's right,he doesn't belong on the main roster and should know his place...





    ...oh wait
    he almost won the US title to a huge pop in a fantastic match and almost won the WWE title to a huge pop in a fantastic match
    [?]
    "He must've been a very important chimp."
    Vyrulisse 1 day ago#202
    GameGodOfAll posted...
    bigpatpunchhard posted...
    truffleshuffles posted...
    darealest47 posted...
    Via_Negativa posted...
    people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

    WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

    delusional

    people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

    HR5CFHX

    that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

    You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao

    It was taken during the pre show. There are multiple shots during the main show of it being much more full. People are just DESPERATE to try and push their silly agenda.
    CourtofOwls posted...
    yeah,that's right,he doesn't belong on the main roster and should know his place...





    ...oh wait
    he almost won the US title to a huge pop in a fantastic match and almost won the WWE title to a huge pop in a fantastic match
    He now exists in the darkness of deletion. Brother Nero is only a vessel of flesh that is empty on the inside. I deleted everything that made him special.
    Dynedux 1 day ago#204
    I don't think anyone said he doesn't belong on the main roster...
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    it’s sad that these marks have bought wwe’s propaganda that they’re wrong for quitting their s***ty company
    Dynedux 1 day ago#206
    It's so cool to s*** on wwe lmfao gosh I wish I could be cool like that one day
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    Well bigpatpunchard certainly got owned in this exchange
    huevos rancheros
    CourtofOwls posted...
    yeah,that's right,he doesn't belong on the main roster and should know his place...





    ...oh wait
    he almost won the US title to a huge pop in a fantastic match and almost won the WWE title to a huge pop in a fantastic match


    Yeah I don't get why people are saying he had no serious potential.
    If you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple.
    Why do you continue to watch something that you don't like weekly? I don't get it.
    DoubleJ9 1 day ago#209
    Vyrulisse posted...
    GameGodOfAll posted...
    bigpatpunchhard posted...
    truffleshuffles posted...
    darealest47 posted...
    Via_Negativa posted...
    people need to look at the numbers when it comes to NJPW and WWE...

    WWE could flop 10x harder than it is doing now with content and whatever else... it will still be BIGGER... more revenue... more fanfare... more eyes on the product...

    delusional

    people don't realize how small NJPW is compared to WWE

    HR5CFHX

    that picture has already been debunked and does not represent the ppv during the main show.

    You can't debunk a PICTURE lmao

    It was taken during the pre show. There are multiple shots during the main show of it being much more full. People are just DESPERATE to try and push their silly agenda.


    Besides that you can see when this picture took place. I didn't watch the pre-show so I went back and watched the match.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/PZbLp

    That's Shelton on the apron with his back to the camera, look at the opposite corner and you can see Ryder laying down on the apron in his corner. You can see the green of Mojo's tights in the center of the ring as he pins Gable.

    It all starts right here; https://youtu.be/lyhbiBImn1s?t=38m19s

    To be back on topic of Neville, to me it's hard to say if he should be a top guy. He shown that he can carry a division and he has the strength/athleticism in the ring, but so far the only gimmick that he's done that has worked has been the King of the Cruiserweights. That's not going to really work in the main event or even as an IC title contender. He has always been awesome in the ring, but his NXT reign wasn't that memorable and he struggled with the "Mighty Mouse"/Superhero gimmick in his main roster debut. 

    I'd like to see him move up, but in reality that will only really work if he can get a character going that can work in other places besides the one division. He has shown that he can make a character work though, so I hope he continues to expand.
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    He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.
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    musumane posted...
    pricelesslegacy posted...
    musumane posted...
    MRW1215 posted...
    bigjclassic posted...
    WWE likes company performers and people that will work for them and help out with certain things. That is why people like the Miz and Cena get rewarded because they do plenty of things for WWE.


    People always talk about the "extra work" guys like Cena and Miz do, but honestly, I've never seen evidence to suggest that "no one else" on the roster is willing to do these things. Rather, it seems like these opportunities just aren't presented to a lot of other workers. WWE will pick the workers they feel are the more "presentable" to represent them on talk shows and charity events, and whatnot. Would Neville do that extra work? I dunno, but I'd wager that he's never even been asked to do it, by WWE.

    bigjclassic posted...
    It's basic pro wrestling. Sheamus, Orton, Dean and so many former champs work with underneath guys to put them over, that is how it works.


    Sure, sure, but workers also shouldn't "settle" and be complacent with not being able to move up anymore. I'm sure Neville would've been happy to put over some other workers in the CW, and then move on to bigger and better things for himself. Instead, they gave Tozawa a week long title run, and then threw the belt back at Neville just so he could drop it to Enzo. And in the meantime, he was probably having behind the scenes discussions about his future prospects, and was probably given the "We don't currently have anything lined up for you" line, and/ or was told there were no opportunities for him outside of the CW division.


    About Cena and Miz, both, and many other superstars, have gone on record and said they do all the extra stuff because they want to. Think of it this way, do you really think WWE wouldn't put Roman in the make a wish spot, or have him be the person primary promoting 2K18 the game if given the chance?

    And I am getting real sick of people acting like wrestlers are owed anything. It's a job. You don't like your job you quit. This whole " contracted free agents " crap needs to be done away with. You signed a contract for ?????? amount for ? years, you have 0 right to complain as long as you are getting payed.

    Except in normal jobs you do well and prove yourself you get promoted and/or a raise. In WWE you suck Vince Or Kevin's cock to get to the top.

    Also, it's paid.


    During contract negotiations ? Sure. But when you sign a contract saying " I will work xxx years/dates for xxxxxx amount of money " you have 0 right to be like " oh I'm killing it right now, I should be in a better spot ".

    So wrestlers only move from mid card to main event during contract negotiations? K
    7/10 for me means it wasn't really bad or really good, but resting somewhere in the middle. -hulkhogan1
    musumane 1 day ago#212
    pricelesslegacy posted...
    musumane posted...
    pricelesslegacy posted...
    musumane posted...
    MRW1215 posted...
    bigjclassic posted...
    WWE likes company performers and people that will work for them and help out with certain things. That is why people like the Miz and Cena get rewarded because they do plenty of things for WWE.


    People always talk about the "extra work" guys like Cena and Miz do, but honestly, I've never seen evidence to suggest that "no one else" on the roster is willing to do these things. Rather, it seems like these opportunities just aren't presented to a lot of other workers. WWE will pick the workers they feel are the more "presentable" to represent them on talk shows and charity events, and whatnot. Would Neville do that extra work? I dunno, but I'd wager that he's never even been asked to do it, by WWE.

    bigjclassic posted...
    It's basic pro wrestling. Sheamus, Orton, Dean and so many former champs work with underneath guys to put them over, that is how it works.


    Sure, sure, but workers also shouldn't "settle" and be complacent with not being able to move up anymore. I'm sure Neville would've been happy to put over some other workers in the CW, and then move on to bigger and better things for himself. Instead, they gave Tozawa a week long title run, and then threw the belt back at Neville just so he could drop it to Enzo. And in the meantime, he was probably having behind the scenes discussions about his future prospects, and was probably given the "We don't currently have anything lined up for you" line, and/ or was told there were no opportunities for him outside of the CW division.


    About Cena and Miz, both, and many other superstars, have gone on record and said they do all the extra stuff because they want to. Think of it this way, do you really think WWE wouldn't put Roman in the make a wish spot, or have him be the person primary promoting 2K18 the game if given the chance?

    And I am getting real sick of people acting like wrestlers are owed anything. It's a job. You don't like your job you quit. This whole " contracted free agents " crap needs to be done away with. You signed a contract for ?????? amount for ? years, you have 0 right to complain as long as you are getting payed.

    Except in normal jobs you do well and prove yourself you get promoted and/or a raise. In WWE you suck Vince Or Kevin's cock to get to the top.

    Also, it's paid.


    During contract negotiations ? Sure. But when you sign a contract saying " I will work xxx years/dates for xxxxxx amount of money " you have 0 right to be like " oh I'm killing it right now, I should be in a better spot ".

    So wrestlers only move from mid card to main event during contract negotiations? K


    Someone needs to learn to read ;)

    I said they have no right to complain about moves up/down the card until renegotiating contracts. I never said moves didn't happen before/after. It's just that is managements decision, not yours, and you signed on the dotted line to be given what you both agreed upon. 

    This is EXACTLY why I said the independent contractor **** needs to be done away with.
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    But nothing in a contract talks about your place on a card. So if im killing it all around in my job performance and you cap me at 205 live or tell me after 6 months of the best stuff of my entire career you got nothing for me then you damn right you can f*** off.
    7/10 for me means it wasn't really bad or really good, but resting somewhere in the middle. -hulkhogan1
    Dynedux 1 day ago#214
    pricelesslegacy posted...
    But nothing in a contract talks about your place on a card. So if im killing it all around in my job performance and you cap me at 205 live or tell me after 6 months of the best stuff of my entire career you got nothing for me then you damn right you can f*** off.


    And what should they do, reshuffle their plans? He's not the only person on the roster, and he's not the only one "killing it". I mean, I agree, he should have a place on the card but if there's nothing for him at the moment what is there to do?
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    Dynedux posted...
    pricelesslegacy posted...
    But nothing in a contract talks about your place on a card. So if im killing it all around in my job performance and you cap me at 205 live or tell me after 6 months of the best stuff of my entire career you got nothing for me then you damn right you can f*** off.


    And what should they do, reshuffle their plans? He's not the only person on the roster, and he's not the only one "killing it". I mean, I agree, he should have a place on the card but if there's nothing for him at the moment what is there to do?

    Go elsewhere like he's possibly doing?
    If I were in charge I'd had used the Neville beatdown on Amore to write him out of the CW division, draft him to SDL and have him feud with AJ for the title and win it, none of this Borin Corbin s***.
    Dynedux 1 day ago#217
    DominicanGlory posted...
    Dynedux posted...
    pricelesslegacy posted...
    But nothing in a contract talks about your place on a card. So if im killing it all around in my job performance and you cap me at 205 live or tell me after 6 months of the best stuff of my entire career you got nothing for me then you damn right you can f*** off.


    And what should they do, reshuffle their plans? He's not the only person on the roster, and he's not the only one "killing it". I mean, I agree, he should have a place on the card but if there's nothing for him at the moment what is there to do?

    Go elsewhere like he's possibly doing?

    I'm talking about the company. What should they do, reshuffle their plans? If he's not happy with his placement and really can't wait, then he has every right to leave and that's fine. I see that as a dumb decision myself, I'd much rather stay where I have benefits like good on site medical care, the different avenues of merch, and especially the exposure. And hell, while he is traveling more and working more dates he's also working a safer style that will allow him to Wrestle for much longer.
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    Dynedux 1 day ago#218
    DominicanGlory posted...
    If I were in charge I'd had used the Neville beatdown on Amore to write him out of the CW division, draft him to SDL and have him feud with AJ for the title and win it, none of this Borin Corbin s***.

    This, or move him into a feud with Miz after this Shield angle runs its course
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    Dynedux posted...
    DominicanGlory posted...
    Dynedux posted...
    pricelesslegacy posted...
    But nothing in a contract talks about your place on a card. So if im killing it all around in my job performance and you cap me at 205 live or tell me after 6 months of the best stuff of my entire career you got nothing for me then you damn right you can f*** off.


    And what should they do, reshuffle their plans? He's not the only person on the roster, and he's not the only one "killing it". I mean, I agree, he should have a place on the card but if there's nothing for him at the moment what is there to do?

    Go elsewhere like he's possibly doing?

    I'm talking about the company. What should they do, reshuffle their plans? If he's not happy with his placement and really can't wait, then he has every right to leave and that's fine. I see that as a dumb decision myself, I'd much rather stay where I have benefits like good on site medical care, the different avenues of merch, and especially the exposure. And hell, while he is traveling more and working more dates he's also working a safer style that will allow him to Wrestle for much longer.

    Plans aren't set in stone, if someone is red hot for almost a year you capitalize on him. Business 101
    Dynedux 1 day ago#220
    DominicanGlory posted...
    Dynedux posted...
    DominicanGlory posted...
    Dynedux posted...
    pricelesslegacy posted...
    But nothing in a contract talks about your place on a card. So if im killing it all around in my job performance and you cap me at 205 live or tell me after 6 months of the best stuff of my entire career you got nothing for me then you damn right you can f*** off.


    And what should they do, reshuffle their plans? He's not the only person on the roster, and he's not the only one "killing it". I mean, I agree, he should have a place on the card but if there's nothing for him at the moment what is there to do?

    Go elsewhere like he's possibly doing?

    I'm talking about the company. What should they do, reshuffle their plans? If he's not happy with his placement and really can't wait, then he has every right to leave and that's fine. I see that as a dumb decision myself, I'd much rather stay where I have benefits like good on site medical care, the different avenues of merch, and especially the exposure. And hell, while he is traveling more and working more dates he's also working a safer style that will allow him to Wrestle for much longer.

    Plans aren't set in stone, if someone is red hot for almost a year you capitalize on him. Business 101

    What about everyone else red hot right now? The only person they could push him over, in terms of championships on duds, is Jinder and that's clearly not happening.
    Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244
    Dynedux posted...
    DominicanGlory posted...
    Dynedux posted...
    DominicanGlory posted...
    Dynedux posted...
    pricelesslegacy posted...
    But nothing in a contract talks about your place on a card. So if im killing it all around in my job performance and you cap me at 205 live or tell me after 6 months of the best stuff of my entire career you got nothing for me then you damn right you can f*** off.


    And what should they do, reshuffle their plans? He's not the only person on the roster, and he's not the only one "killing it". I mean, I agree, he should have a place on the card but if there's nothing for him at the moment what is there to do?

    Go elsewhere like he's possibly doing?

    I'm talking about the company. What should they do, reshuffle their plans? If he's not happy with his placement and really can't wait, then he has every right to leave and that's fine. I see that as a dumb decision myself, I'd much rather stay where I have benefits like good on site medical care, the different avenues of merch, and especially the exposure. And hell, while he is traveling more and working more dates he's also working a safer style that will allow him to Wrestle for much longer.

    Plans aren't set in stone, if someone is red hot for almost a year you capitalize on him. Business 101

    What about everyone else red hot right now? The only person they could push him over, in terms of championships on duds, is Jinder and that's clearly not happening.

    Corbin, Dillinger, Nakamura, Bray, Jason Jordan, Finn are all much less important than Neville atm and they're all being used better.
    Went to a Raw house show recently. You know which cruiserweights were there? Enzo vs Mustafa Ali. That's it. The cruiserweights don't even get a clusterf*** match like the men and women get. Looking at other cards that is the norm for them. One match, champion vs challenger. That's it. Looks like PPV cards in that respect...

    Neville isn't stupid. If they just decided they didn't have anything for him after the year he has had, he knows that means he drops into the black hole of the cruiserweight midcard. That means no house shows, random f***off tag match on RAW occasionally, maybe a feud nobody pays attention to on 205 Live, and absolutely no hint at a PPV. That kind of booking has happened to every other past champion or challenger in the cruiserweight division and has done a marvelous job of cooling off other acts that were over. Remember when Jack Gallagher was hot? When he came out for the Royal Rumble people popped for him. Now nobody cares. 

    If that was what Neville had to look forward to, and honestly is there any reason to expect it wouldn't, then who can blame him if indeed he did pack it up and call it quits? I mean aside from the people that think it is a personal affront to them that somebody has the gall to not just take whatever s*** is slapped into their face.
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    f***, if you want to get really creative... You know how there was that mutual respect thing with him and Braun going on? Have Braun say that he wants to take everything away from the Shield and he needs to have a partner to rid them of the tag belts. Enter Neville.
    Ricky-Williams posted...
    Went to a Raw house show recently. You know which cruiserweights were there? Enzo vs Mustafa Ali. That's it. The cruiserweights don't even get a clusterf*** match like the men and women get. Looking at other cards that is the norm for them. One match, champion vs challenger. That's it. Looks like PPV cards in that respect...

    Neville isn't stupid. If they just decided they didn't have anything for him after the year he has had, he knows that means he drops into the black hole of the cruiserweight midcard. That means no house shows, random f***off tag match on RAW occasionally, maybe a feud nobody pays attention to on 205 Live, and absolutely no hint at a PPV. That kind of booking has happened to every other past champion or challenger in the cruiserweight division and has done a marvelous job of cooling off other acts that were over. Remember when Jack Gallagher was hot? When he came out for the Royal Rumble people popped for him. Now nobody cares. 

    If that was what Neville had to look forward to, and honestly is there any reason to expect it wouldn't, then who can blame him if indeed he did pack it up and call it quits? I mean aside from the people that think it is a personal affront to them that somebody has the gall to not just take whatever s*** is slapped into their face.

    Preach
    DominicanGlory posted...
    f***, if you want to get really creative... You know how there was that mutual respect thing with him and Braun going on? Have Braun say that he wants to take everything away from the Shield and he needs to have a partner to rid them of the tag belts. Enter Neville.

    lol

    hes already killed them, without rains they can't beat him

    win them solo
    Ricky-Williams posted...
    Went to a Raw house show recently. You know which cruiserweights were there? Enzo vs Mustafa Ali. That's it. The cruiserweights don't even get a clusterf*** match like the men and women get. Looking at other cards that is the norm for them. One match, champion vs challenger. That's it. Looks like PPV cards in that respect...

    Neville isn't stupid. If they just decided they didn't have anything for him after the year he has had, he knows that means he drops into the black hole of the cruiserweight midcard. That means no house shows, random f***off tag match on RAW occasionally, maybe a feud nobody pays attention to on 205 Live, and absolutely no hint at a PPV. That kind of booking has happened to every other past champion or challenger in the cruiserweight division and has done a marvelous job of cooling off other acts that were over. Remember when Jack Gallagher was hot? When he came out for the Royal Rumble people popped for him. Now nobody cares. 

    If that was what Neville had to look forward to, and honestly is there any reason to expect it wouldn't, then who can blame him if indeed he did pack it up and call it quits? I mean aside from the people that think it is a personal affront to them that somebody has the gall to not just take whatever s*** is slapped into their face.


    *claps*
    This is GameFAQs. People here take great pride in ignoring common sense.
    Dynedux posted...
    What about everyone else red hot right now? The only person they could push him over, in terms of championships on duds, is Jinder and that's clearly not happening.


    everyone else that's red hot right now is in a team of some sort and with survivor series afterwards will continue to be in a team of some sort
    unless you count aj styles as always being red hot
    [?]
    "He must've been a very important chimp."
    ShadowRaiden00 posted...
    DominicanGlory posted...
    f***, if you want to get really creative... You know how there was that mutual respect thing with him and Braun going on? Have Braun say that he wants to take everything away from the Shield and he needs to have a partner to rid them of the tag belts. Enter Neville.

    lol

    hes already killed them, without rains they can't beat him

    win them solo

    You can't be a tag team champ by yourself smart-ass
    SmashBurb 1 day ago#229
    darealest47 posted...
    HR5CFHX


    http://fightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/images/15156_original.jpg

    Cherry-picking can work both ways.

    Here's another impressive NJPW crowd.
    (edited 1 day ago)reportquote
    MRW1215 1 day ago#230
    Ricky-Williams posted...
    Went to a Raw house show recently. You know which cruiserweights were there? Enzo vs Mustafa Ali. That's it. The cruiserweights don't even get a clusterf*** match like the men and women get. Looking at other cards that is the norm for them. One match, champion vs challenger. That's it. Looks like PPV cards in that respect...

    Neville isn't stupid. If they just decided they didn't have anything for him after the year he has had, he knows that means he drops into the black hole of the cruiserweight midcard. That means no house shows, random f***off tag match on RAW occasionally, maybe a feud nobody pays attention to on 205 Live, and absolutely no hint at a PPV. That kind of booking has happened to every other past champion or challenger in the cruiserweight division and has done a marvelous job of cooling off other acts that were over. Remember when Jack Gallagher was hot? When he came out for the Royal Rumble people popped for him. Now nobody cares. 

    If that was what Neville had to look forward to, and honestly is there any reason to expect it wouldn't, then who can blame him if indeed he did pack it up and call it quits? I mean aside from the people that think it is a personal affront to them that somebody has the gall to not just take whatever s*** is slapped into their face.


    Yep, pretty much this, to a "t". It's always funny to me when people act like workers are "egomaniacs" or "marks for themselves" or "ungrateful" when said workers are frustrated with being in a position where they'll likely get tossed in the closet for a while. Yes, obviously not everyone can make it to the top, and yes, not everyone can get pushed at once. But if you're a wrestler, trying to "make it", you really should never be complacent. You should strive to go as far as you possibly can in the business. Was Neville going to be a main eventer/ world champion either way? Probably not. But it's not wrong for a wrestler to have high aspirations and goals, nor is it wrong for them to be frustrated when they're basically told "No, you're not going to be doing those things now, nor probably ever".
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    DominicanGlory posted...
    ShadowRaiden00 posted...
    DominicanGlory posted...
    f***, if you want to get really creative... You know how there was that mutual respect thing with him and Braun going on? Have Braun say that he wants to take everything away from the Shield and he needs to have a partner to rid them of the tag belts. Enter Neville.

    lol

    hes already killed them, without rains they can't beat him

    win them solo

    You can't be a tag team champ by yourself smart-ass


    says who?

    don't pretend wwe sticks to rules now

    Brown pushes Kurt to do it, Kurt gives in.

    Win
    Tryhaptaward 23 hours ago#232
    SmashBurb posted...
    darealest47 posted...
    HR5CFHX


    http://fightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/images/15156_original.jpg

    Cherry-picking can work both ways.

    Here's another impressive NJPW crowd.


    holy s*** what a failure of a promotion!
    Via_Negativa 23 hours ago#233
    InsaneGamer137 posted...
    He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.


    LMAO

    The X Division is beneath f***ing Neville.

    Don't bring up that s***-show ever again.
    What! The Farmclub! It's the mother f'ing -chika-chika- Farmclub!
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    Dynedux posted...
    DominicanGlory posted...
    Dynedux posted...
    DominicanGlory posted...
    Dynedux posted...
    pricelesslegacy posted...
    But nothing in a contract talks about your place on a card. So if im killing it all around in my job performance and you cap me at 205 live or tell me after 6 months of the best stuff of my entire career you got nothing for me then you damn right you can f*** off.


    And what should they do, reshuffle their plans? He's not the only person on the roster, and he's not the only one "killing it". I mean, I agree, he should have a place on the card but if there's nothing for him at the moment what is there to do?

    Go elsewhere like he's possibly doing?

    I'm talking about the company. What should they do, reshuffle their plans? If he's not happy with his placement and really can't wait, then he has every right to leave and that's fine. I see that as a dumb decision myself, I'd much rather stay where I have benefits like good on site medical care, the different avenues of merch, and especially the exposure. And hell, while he is traveling more and working more dates he's also working a safer style that will allow him to Wrestle for much longer.

    Plans aren't set in stone, if someone is red hot for almost a year you capitalize on him. Business 101

    What about everyone else red hot right now? The only person they could push him over, in terms of championships on duds, is Jinder and that's clearly not happening.

    You can push someone without a championship, in case you didn't know.
    7/10 for me means it wasn't really bad or really good, but resting somewhere in the middle. -hulkhogan1
    Maze_ 23 hours ago#236
    ShadowRaiden00 posted...
    Tryhaptaward posted...
    http://fightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/images/15156_original.jpg

    lol, GFW-Tier 

    pathetic

    I don't get it, if the crowd is so empty why are they choosing to sit really far away?
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    AzumaNaroon 22 hours ago#237
    Conspiracy theory: What if this is all a work and the so-called sheet reports originated from none other than WWE itself? Incoming storyline development?
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    KingHova045 22 hours ago#238
    So is Neville legit gone or nah?
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    Lep106317 22 hours ago#239
    The Observer is reporting that Neville did leave RAW and did ask for his release. WWE is still denying it though.
    InsaneGamer137 posted...
    He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.


    Impact has had experience dealing with guys with egos before, so he should fit in nicely
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    AzumaNaroon 21 hours ago#242
    Bahamut knight zero posted...
    InsaneGamer137 posted...
    He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.


    Impact has had experience dealing with guys with egos before, so he should fit in nicely


    I love the line of thinking where anybody who actually has self-worth and isn't some subservient sychophant has ego issues. Never change PWB
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    n00bsaib0t 21 hours ago#243
    AzumaNaroon posted...
    Bahamut knight zero posted...
    InsaneGamer137 posted... 
    He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.


    Impact has had experience dealing with guys with egos before, so he should fit in nicely


    I love the line of thinking where anybody who actually has self-worth and isn't some subservient sychophant has ego issues. Never change PWB

    I like the line of thinking that if someone walks out it's clearly something WWE did wrong.
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    n00bsaib0t posted...
    AzumaNaroon posted...
    Bahamut knight zero posted...
    InsaneGamer137 posted... 
    He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.


    Impact has had experience dealing with guys with egos before, so he should fit in nicely


    I love the line of thinking where anybody who actually has self-worth and isn't some subservient sychophant has ego issues. Never change PWB

    I like the line of thinking that if someone walks out it's clearly something WWE did wrong.

    when making a choice on whos side to take, wwe usually loses

    some people like Jack or Sydal f***ed up, while others just get tired of bad booking

    they come in and here guys like HHH, Vince, Cena or Jericho tell them that ability matters when it really doesn't

    again, some guys aren't worth it, but in a case like this you may have gotten something from Neville

    depends but s*** like Cody and Punk sticks with people, more so Rhodes for me who they clearly f***ed multiple times
    steph4here 21 hours ago#245
    Neville doesn't really have a right to have much of an ego.....he's not THAT popular....if he was, then I would be saying he has a right for standing up for himself...but when you are really just a smark favorite, you should be glad to get as much as you are getting....people have wanted to leave the company that were treated a lot worse.
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    Johnny Blaque 21 hours ago#246
    n00bsaib0t posted...
    AzumaNaroon posted...
    Bahamut knight zero posted...
    InsaneGamer137 posted... 
    He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.


    Impact has had experience dealing with guys with egos before, so he should fit in nicely


    I love the line of thinking where anybody who actually has self-worth and isn't some subservient sychophant has ego issues. Never change PWB

    I like the line of thinking that if someone walks out it's clearly something WWE did wrong.


    If I leave a job of my own accord, it usually is something the job did wrong. If I get fired, it's usually something I did wrong.
    Johnny Blaque 21 hours ago#247
    Oh and that reminds me, anybody remember why Shelton was let go from WWE the first time? He got fired because he was apparently too much of a company man and didn't want to make waves so they fired him for not speaking up for himself backstage. That is f***ing stupid.
    steph4here 21 hours ago#248
    Johnny Blaque posted...
    Oh and that reminds me, anybody remember why Shelton was let go from WWE the first time? He got fired because he was apparently too much of a company man and didn't want to make waves so they fired him for not speaking up for himself backstage. That is f***ing stupid.


    Yeah.....sure they did......there are a lot of guys that act that way that don't get fired.

    Shelton was let go at a time they were doing spring cleaning and getting rid of a ton of people they just did not need around anymore. Kofi Kingston was a more charismatic Shelton Benjamin at that time....they just didn't need him.
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    AzumaNaroon 21 hours ago#249
    n00bsaib0t posted...
    AzumaNaroon posted...
    Bahamut knight zero posted...
    InsaneGamer137 posted... 
    He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.


    Impact has had experience dealing with guys with egos before, so he should fit in nicely


    I love the line of thinking where anybody who actually has self-worth and isn't some subservient sychophant has ego issues. Never change PWB

    I like the line of thinking that if someone walks out it's clearly something WWE did wrong.


    Are we just gonna pretend WWE doesn't have a history of treating talents like s*** and outright lying to them? 

    Again many people in this topic already explained why Neville walking (if true) makes complete sense, so I don't even need to try to justify it. 

    I still don't believe it myself. I think if it stays quiet we'll see him appear next week.
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    Johnny Blaque 21 hours ago#250
    steph4here posted...
    Johnny Blaque posted...
    Oh and that reminds me, anybody remember why Shelton was let go from WWE the first time? He got fired because he was apparently too much of a company man and didn't want to make waves so they fired him for not speaking up for himself backstage. That is f***ing stupid.


    Yeah.....sure they did......there are a lot of guys that act that way that don't get fired.

    Shelton was let go at a time they were doing spring cleaning and getting rid of a ton of people they just did not need around anymore. Kofi Kingston was a more charismatic Shelton Benjamin at that time....they just didn't need him.


    I'm just saying. It's apparently fine for WWE to spit people out for no reason other then they have a shiny new toy but folks are calling Neville ego maniacal when he can see the writing on the wall(if true). 

    Pac just needs to leave on helicopter that gravity forgot.
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      n00bsaib0t 20 hours ago#251
      AzumaNaroon posted...
      n00bsaib0t posted...
      AzumaNaroon posted... 
      Bahamut knight zero posted... 
      InsaneGamer137 posted... 
      He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.


      Impact has had experience dealing with guys with egos before, so he should fit in nicely


      I love the line of thinking where anybody who actually has self-worth and isn't some subservient sychophant has ego issues. Never change PWB

      I like the line of thinking that if someone walks out it's clearly something WWE did wrong.


      Are we just gonna pretend WWE doesn't have a history of treating talents like s*** and outright lying to them? 

      Again many people in this topic already explained why Neville walking (if true) makes complete sense, so I don't even need to try to justify it. 

      I still don't believe it myself. I think if it stays quiet we'll see him appear next week.

      Are we pretending the talent don't have a history of their egos getting the better of them? We know nothing about what's going on but everyone wants to pretend of it's true it absolutely has to be for whatever reason. It's ridiculous
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      CC2680 20 hours ago#252
      Even if this is all true, you can't say their ego got the best of them when you don't know what he could accomplish elsewhere. Some guys will falter, and some guys will find ways to become even more popular/make more money etc, than they were in the wwe. 

      With that said no one knows if this is even a real thing or an angle, nor the circumstances behind it. So many things can influence a decision, and people make judgments based off loosely worded statements. Him walking out, could have been him being told to pack his bags etc. 

      No one really knows, but people are already saying its wwe's fault, or neville has an ego etc. In the end it's probably pretty complicated, assuming its a real thing.
      Johnny Blaque 20 hours ago#253
      n00bsaib0t posted...
      AzumaNaroon posted...
      n00bsaib0t posted...
      AzumaNaroon posted... 
      Bahamut knight zero posted... 
      InsaneGamer137 posted... 
      He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.


      Impact has had experience dealing with guys with egos before, so he should fit in nicely


      I love the line of thinking where anybody who actually has self-worth and isn't some subservient sychophant has ego issues. Never change PWB

      I like the line of thinking that if someone walks out it's clearly something WWE did wrong.


      Are we just gonna pretend WWE doesn't have a history of treating talents like s*** and outright lying to them? 

      Again many people in this topic already explained why Neville walking (if true) makes complete sense, so I don't even need to try to justify it. 

      I still don't believe it myself. I think if it stays quiet we'll see him appear next week.

      Are we pretending the talent don't have a history of their egos getting the better of them? We know nothing about what's going on but everyone wants to pretend of it's true it absolutely has to be for whatever reason. It's ridiculous


      The reason why is because Neville has been wrestling for like 12 years or more. Just because you only heard of him 3 years ago doesn't change history. Has he had a reputation of having a huge ego? Nope. Have we heard dirtsheet stories of him walking before when he was just doing nothing in WWE? Nope. So logic goes, he likely isn't being up his own ass by leaving.
      Donald_J_Zeus 20 hours ago#254
      Lep106317 posted...
      Sources say Neville was initially scheduled to lose to Enzo Amore in the main event lumberjack match on Raw. However, plans changed after the ex-cruiserweight champion walked out before the show.

      In case you missed it, Kalisto was given the spot instead and won the Cruiserweight title.


      If Kalisto got the title, it sounds like they weren't planning on using Neville at all?
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      jimmysheva 20 hours ago#255
      his accent makes him unpushable
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      n00bsaib0t 19 hours ago#256
      Johnny Blaque posted...
      n00bsaib0t posted...
      AzumaNaroon posted... 
      n00bsaib0t posted... 
      AzumaNaroon posted... 
      Bahamut knight zero posted... 
      InsaneGamer137 posted... 
      He would be great in X Division in Impact Wrestling.


      Impact has had experience dealing with guys with egos before, so he should fit in nicely


      I love the line of thinking where anybody who actually has self-worth and isn't some subservient sychophant has ego issues. Never change PWB

      I like the line of thinking that if someone walks out it's clearly something WWE did wrong.


      Are we just gonna pretend WWE doesn't have a history of treating talents like s*** and outright lying to them? 

      Again many people in this topic already explained why Neville walking (if true) makes complete sense, so I don't even need to try to justify it. 

      I still don't believe it myself. I think if it stays quiet we'll see him appear next week.

      Are we pretending the talent don't have a history of their egos getting the better of them? We know nothing about what's going on but everyone wants to pretend of it's true it absolutely has to be for whatever reason. It's ridiculous


      The reason why is because Neville has been wrestling for like 12 years or more. Just because you only heard of him 3 years ago doesn't change history. Has he had a reputation of having a huge ego? Nope. Have we heard dirtsheet stories of him walking before when he was just doing nothing in WWE? Nope. So logic goes, he likely isn't being up his own ass by leaving.

      The typical tryhard response. "You only just heard of him".
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      AegisUrien 18 hours ago#257
      Johnny Blaque 18 hours ago#258
      n00bsaib0t posted...
      The typical tryhard response. "You only just heard of him".


      The typical "I have no response" response. Ad hominem.
      AegisUrien posted...
      Jack Gallaher & Kevin Owens saying goodbye to Neville?

      https://twitter.com/GentlemanJackG/status/918083027401625600
      https://www.instagram.com/p/BaG8tG_n0Nf/


      Damn this f***ing sucks.
      If you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple.
      Why do you continue to watch something that you don't like weekly? I don't get it.
      n00bsaib0t 18 hours ago#261
      Johnny Blaque posted...
      n00bsaib0t posted...
      The typical tryhard response. "You only just heard of him".


      The typical "I have no response" response. Ad hominem.

      Oh, sorry, do you not like it when someone uses your own tactics against you?

      https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

      Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.

      In this case you attempted to cast doubt on my wrestling knowledge outside of WWE rather than attack my argument.
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      AzumaNaroon 17 hours ago#262
      AegisUrien posted...
      Jack Gallagher & Kevin Owens saying goodbye to Neville?

      https://twitter.com/GentlemanJackG/status/918083027401625600
      https://www.instagram.com/p/BaG8tG_n0Nf/


      The optimist in me wants to believe this is just a masterful work

      The realist in me is thinking he's really gone. 

      God f***ing dammit lol
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      The Mutation 17 hours ago#263
      If he is gone, he would be a great addition to IMPACT or even Lucha Underground Season 4 if there is one.
      OurLadyPeace 15 hours ago#265
      ShadowRaiden00 posted...
      http://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/neville-was-angry-when-he-walked-out-before-wwe-raw/

      CM Neville


      CM Punk got several world and WWE title reigns including one that beat the "modern day" record, main evented TV, house shows and PPVs and in his final year alone feuded with the likes of The Rock, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar and HHH. Neville would probably be delighted to get just a slice of that heinous mis-treatment. 

      Also doubt Neville is going to go onto Colt Cabana's show and lie for 90 minutes so I think the 'CM Neville' tag is slightly unfair.
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      OurLadyPeace posted...
      ShadowRaiden00 posted...
      http://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/neville-was-angry-when-he-walked-out-before-wwe-raw/

      CM Neville


      CM Punk got several world and WWE title reigns including one that beat the "modern day" record, main evented TV, house shows and PPVs and in his final year alone feuded with the likes of The Rock, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar and HHH. Neville would probably be delighted to get just a slice of that heinous mis-treatment. 

      Also doubt Neville is going to go onto Colt Cabana's show and lie for 90 minutes so I think the 'CM Neville' tag is slightly unfair.

      was talking solely about being pissed and leaving Raw

      GAWD
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      Maze_ 15 hours ago#267
      The_Dragon_Died posted...
      AegisUrien posted...
      Jack Gallaher & Kevin Owens saying goodbye to Neville?

      https://twitter.com/GentlemanJackG/status/918083027401625600
      https://www.instagram.com/p/BaG8tG_n0Nf/


      Damn this f***ing sucks.

      yeah

      hope they are kidding
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      OurLadyPeace 15 hours ago#268
      OK. 

      We don't want it catching on though. Let's nip it in the bud now.
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      AzumaNaroon 14 hours ago#269
      Feeding further into the "what if this is just a big work" theory, what if this leads to an angle where he literally leaves RAW and goes to SDL? Neville dethroning Jinder anyone?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!=_&=&$;!&!!*&=
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      Johnny Blaque 13 hours ago#271
      n00bsaib0t posted...
      In this case you attempted to cast doubt on my wrestling knowledge outside of WWE rather than attack my argument.


      Actuqlly I did both. But you have no further argument so you focus on my assumption of your knowledge which I can admit I may be wrong about. Nonetheless you had your post to address my other point and this point but you only decided to address one which leads me to believe you didn't know much about Pac. Much less his reputation in the indies and in Japan.
      n00bsaib0t 12 hours ago#272
      Johnny Blaque posted...
      n00bsaib0t posted...
      In this case you attempted to cast doubt on my wrestling knowledge outside of WWE rather than attack my argument. 


      Actuqlly I did both. But you have no further argument so you focus on my assumption of your knowledge which I can admit I may be wrong about. Nonetheless you had your post to address my other point and this point but you only decided to address one which leads me to believe you didn't know much about Pac. Much less his reputation in the indies and in Japan.

      To a lot of people, WWE is the goal. Since Royal Rumble, Nevile has been pushed hard at the top of his division made to look untouchable. Before that he had pretty high profile matches including one for the top title of said goal company. Fame and special treatment can change people. The past is the past. When speculating anything is fair game. 

      But keep thinking that. If you had an argument you wouldn't have made a huge deal out of being responded to the same way you respond.
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      darealest47 11 hours ago#273
      AzumaNaroon posted...
      Feeding further into the "what if this is just a big work" theory, what if this leads to an angle where he literally leaves RAW and goes to SDL? Neville dethroning Jinder anyone?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!=_&=&$;!&!!*&=

      Not gonna happen.
      Would be nice though.
      In a better world we'd be witnessing Neville vs AJ Styles/Nakamura by now.
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      xOmniCloudx 10 hours ago#274
      darealest47 posted...
      AzumaNaroon posted...
      Feeding further into the "what if this is just a big work" theory, what if this leads to an angle where he literally leaves RAW and goes to SDL? Neville dethroning Jinder anyone?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!=_&=&$;!&!!*&=

      Not gonna happen.
      Would be nice though.
      In a better world we'd be witnessing Neville vs AJ Styles/Nakamura by now.


      How dare you leave out Neville vs Shelton Benjamin?! Hell, I'd also LOVE Chad Gable vs Neville.
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      steph4here 10 hours ago#276
      Nerville is the Jay Cutler of the WWE : /
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      n00bsaib0t posted...
      Johnny Blaque posted...
      n00bsaib0t posted...
      In this case you attempted to cast doubt on my wrestling knowledge outside of WWE rather than attack my argument. 


      Actuqlly I did both. But you have no further argument so you focus on my assumption of your knowledge which I can admit I may be wrong about. Nonetheless you had your post to address my other point and this point but you only decided to address one which leads me to believe you didn't know much about Pac. Much less his reputation in the indies and in Japan.

      To a lot of people, WWE is the goal. Since Royal Rumble, Nevile has been pushed hard at the top of his division made to look untouchable. Before that he had pretty high profile matches including one for the top title of said goal company. Fame and special treatment can change people. The past is the past. When speculating anything is fair game. 

      But keep thinking that. If you had an argument you wouldn't have made a huge deal out of being responded to the same way you respond.

      After his ankle injury he was pretty much forgotten about until he turned heel. 

      If you knew anything about Neville, you'd know he actually battles with self doubt and low confidence so to assume he has some huge ego is pretty f***ing stupid.
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      why the f*** would a talent such as neville stay in wwe when they’re telling him hey man we don’t need you on house shows anymore cause the program is enzo and kalisto, so yeah no money for you, his merch is laughable, so no money for him, and he won’t be used on ppvs anymore so yeah, no money for him. 

      why would he live on his downside guarantee when a guy like juice robinson left and look at how well he’s doing. 

      there’s no downside to this move for neville. they either give him what he wants and he gets more money, more exposure and more opportunities, he sits his contract out and basically makes the same money he’d make anyway or he gets his release and gets more money outside of wwe. 

      don’t be a f***ing mark and think he owes wwe anything because they booked him to win some fake title in fake fighting. that’s not what wrestling is about. it’s a short career, it’s about making f***ing money.
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      HagenEx 6 hours ago#279
      I don't know about you guys, but I just imagined Neville vs Ospreay and came in my pants -.-
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      ad_Talking_He posted...
      why the f*** would a talent such as neville stay in wwe when they’re telling him hey man we don’t need you on house shows anymore cause the program is enzo and kalisto, so yeah no money for you, his merch is laughable, so no money for him, and he won’t be used on ppvs anymore so yeah, no money for him. 

      why would he live on his downside guarantee when a guy like juice robinson left and look at how well he’s doing. 

      there’s no downside to this move for neville. they either give him what he wants and he gets more money, more exposure and more opportunities, he sits his contract out and basically makes the same money he’d make anyway or he gets his release and gets more money outside of wwe. 

      don’t be a f***ing mark and think he owes wwe anything because they booked him to win some fake title in fake fighting. that’s not what wrestling is about. it’s a short career, it’s about making f***ing money.
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      darkrain108 6 hours ago#281
      I mean I'd walk too if I carried a division for a year and some dude comes in and wins the title cause his catchphrase is over.

      Then on top you have the worst luchador not named Sin Cara fighting with the dude. 

      It's utter failure all around
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      Dynedux 4 hours ago#283
      darkrain108 posted...
      I mean I'd walk too if I carried a division for a year and some dude comes in and wins the title cause his catchphrase is over.

      Then on top you have the worst luchador not named Sin Cara fighting with the dude. 

      It's utter failure all around

      So it's OK for the most over guy to hold a belt until that over guy isn't a guy you like? I -love- Neville, and have for nearly a decade, but this is some backassward thinking.
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      darkrain108 4 hours ago#284
      Dynedux posted...
      darkrain108 posted...
      I mean I'd walk too if I carried a division for a year and some dude comes in and wins the title cause his catchphrase is over.

      Then on top you have the worst luchador not named Sin Cara fighting with the dude. 

      It's utter failure all around

      So it's OK for the most over guy to hold a belt until that over guy isn't a guy you like? I -love- Neville, and have for nearly a decade, but this is some backassward thinking.


      Enzo nor Kallisto were CW prior to about the past month or so.

      What about using actual CWs? 

      Swann, Kendrick, Tozawa...any of them could win and hold the belt.

      Bringing in someone like Enzo is ridiculous. It got some two week heat to get eyes on the division and that's it.

      Having Kallisto as champ isn't sustainable. Literally no one cares about him.
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      Dynedux 4 hours ago#285
      darkrain108 posted...
      Dynedux posted...
      darkrain108 posted...
      I mean I'd walk too if I carried a division for a year and some dude comes in and wins the title cause his catchphrase is over.

      Then on top you have the worst luchador not named Sin Cara fighting with the dude. 

      It's utter failure all around

      So it's OK for the most over guy to hold a belt until that over guy isn't a guy you like? I -love- Neville, and have for nearly a decade, but this is some backassward thinking.


      Enzo nor Kallisto were CW prior to about the past month or so.

      What about using actual CWs? 

      Swann, Kendrick, Tozawa...any of them could win and hold the belt.

      Bringing in someone like Enzo is ridiculous. It got some two week heat to get eyes on the division and that's it.

      Having Kallisto as champ isn't sustainable. Literally no one cares about him.

      None of the cws are very popular, period. Enzo is, period. Stop looking at it like a fan and look at it from a business perspective. Enzo is money. Horribly douchey money, but still money.
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      I honestly don't believe enzo has anything to do with Neville.
      7/10 for me means it wasn't really bad or really good, but resting somewhere in the middle. -hulkhogan1
      Dynedux 4 hours ago#287
      pricelesslegacy posted...
      I honestly don't believe enzo has anything to do with Neville.

      I really don't either. As others have pointed out, Neville isn't an egomaniac, doing the job for someone inferior to him isn't the kind of thing to make someone like that snap.
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      darkrain108 posted...
      Dynedux posted...
      darkrain108 posted...
      I mean I'd walk too if I carried a division for a year and some dude comes in and wins the title cause his catchphrase is over.

      Then on top you have the worst luchador not named Sin Cara fighting with the dude. 

      It's utter failure all around

      So it's OK for the most over guy to hold a belt until that over guy isn't a guy you like? I -love- Neville, and have for nearly a decade, but this is some backassward thinking.


      Enzo nor Kallisto were CW prior to about the past month or so.

      What about using actual CWs? 

      Swann, Kendrick, Tozawa...any of them could win and hold the belt.

      Bringing in someone like Enzo is ridiculous. It got some two week heat to get eyes on the division and that's it.

      Having Kallisto as champ isn't sustainable. Literally no one cares about him.

      nobody cares about ANY cruiserweight but Enzo
      BaronNugget 4 hours ago#289
      Everything Enzo said was true, the guy is f***ing money. the interest in the Cruiserweight division has skyrocketed since he joined 205 Live.
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      n00bsaib0t posted...
      Johnny Blaque posted...
      n00bsaib0t posted...
      In this case you attempted to cast doubt on my wrestling knowledge outside of WWE rather than attack my argument. 


      Actuqlly I did both. But you have no further argument so you focus on my assumption of your knowledge which I can admit I may be wrong about. Nonetheless you had your post to address my other point and this point but you only decided to address one which leads me to believe you didn't know much about Pac. Much less his reputation in the indies and in Japan.

      To a lot of people, WWE is the goal. Since Royal Rumble, Nevile has been pushed hard at the top of his division made to look untouchable. Before that he had pretty high profile matches including one for the top title of said goal company. Fame and special treatment can change people. The past is the past. When speculating anything is fair game. 

      But keep thinking that. If you had an argument you wouldn't have made a huge deal out of being responded to the same way you respond.


      I didn't make a huge deal out of nothing. You are the one who made a whole post dedicated to one line in my post and your post wasn't even related to Neville. I addressed your attempt to sideline the main discussion and kept the main discussion going. If I hadn't responded correctly to your post we would be playing your semantics game right now lol.

      Now back to the the Neville issue. You want to not use the past to inform speculation while you use the past to inform speculation. You refuse to take a long view at it and only want to use recent past. There are problems with this because Neville wasn't unbeatable, he was dominant but not unbeatable. Example 1 being that he lost the title 2 months back. Example 2 is that he cheated to win sometimes and most matches made the other guy look like a damn good contender with Neville squeaking by. Those high profile matches he had were followed up with long months of not doing anything.
      darkrain108 3 hours ago#291
      Dynedux posted...
      darkrain108 posted...
      Dynedux posted...
      darkrain108 posted...
      I mean I'd walk too if I carried a division for a year and some dude comes in and wins the title cause his catchphrase is over.

      Then on top you have the worst luchador not named Sin Cara fighting with the dude. 

      It's utter failure all around

      So it's OK for the most over guy to hold a belt until that over guy isn't a guy you like? I -love- Neville, and have for nearly a decade, but this is some backassward thinking.


      Enzo nor Kallisto were CW prior to about the past month or so.

      What about using actual CWs? 

      Swann, Kendrick, Tozawa...any of them could win and hold the belt.

      Bringing in someone like Enzo is ridiculous. It got some two week heat to get eyes on the division and that's it.

      Having Kallisto as champ isn't sustainable. Literally no one cares about him.

      None of the cws are very popular, period. Enzo is, period. Stop looking at it like a fan and look at it from a business perspective. Enzo is money. Horribly douchey money, but still money.


      Yes, two week heat money.

      There is a reason he and Cass never got the tag belts. The shtick is over for a short period then gets indifference.

      Neville thing may not be directly related, but the Enzo thing couldn't have helped.
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      AegisUrien 3 hours ago#293
      darkrain108 posted...
      Dynedux posted...
      darkrain108 posted...
      Dynedux posted...
      darkrain108 posted...
      I mean I'd walk too if I carried a division for a year and some dude comes in and wins the title cause his catchphrase is over.

      Then on top you have the worst luchador not named Sin Cara fighting with the dude. 

      It's utter failure all around

      So it's OK for the most over guy to hold a belt until that over guy isn't a guy you like? I -love- Neville, and have for nearly a decade, but this is some backassward thinking.


      Enzo nor Kallisto were CW prior to about the past month or so.

      What about using actual CWs? 

      Swann, Kendrick, Tozawa...any of them could win and hold the belt.

      Bringing in someone like Enzo is ridiculous. It got some two week heat to get eyes on the division and that's it.

      Having Kallisto as champ isn't sustainable. Literally no one cares about him.

      None of the cws are very popular, period. Enzo is, period. Stop looking at it like a fan and look at it from a business perspective. Enzo is money. Horribly douchey money, but still money.


      Yes, two week heat money.

      There is a reason he and Cass never got the tag belts. The shtick is over for a short period then gets indifference.

      Neville thing may not be directly related, but the Enzo thing couldn't have helped.


      It's not a shtick. He's a legit great promo.
      He now exists in the darkness of deletion. Brother Nero is only a vessel of flesh that is empty on the inside. I deleted everything that made him special.
      Dynedux 2 hours ago#295
      darkrain108 posted...
      Dynedux posted...
      darkrain108 posted...
      Dynedux posted...
      darkrain108 posted...
      I mean I'd walk too if I carried a division for a year and some dude comes in and wins the title cause his catchphrase is over.

      Then on top you have the worst luchador not named Sin Cara fighting with the dude. 

      It's utter failure all around

      So it's OK for the most over guy to hold a belt until that over guy isn't a guy you like? I -love- Neville, and have for nearly a decade, but this is some backassward thinking.


      Enzo nor Kallisto were CW prior to about the past month or so.

      What about using actual CWs? 

      Swann, Kendrick, Tozawa...any of them could win and hold the belt.

      Bringing in someone like Enzo is ridiculous. It got some two week heat to get eyes on the division and that's it.

      Having Kallisto as champ isn't sustainable. Literally no one cares about him.

      None of the cws are very popular, period. Enzo is, period. Stop looking at it like a fan and look at it from a business perspective. Enzo is money. Horribly douchey money, but still money.


      Yes, two week heat money.


      Facts, please. I need to see some numbers. 

      There is a reason he and Cass never got the tag belts. The shtick is over for a short period then gets indifference.


      Funny he seemed to be getting the same pops for months, so...
      Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244
      xOmniCloudx posted...
      darealest47 posted...
      AzumaNaroon posted...
      Feeding further into the "what if this is just a big work" theory, what if this leads to an angle where he literally leaves RAW and goes to SDL? Neville dethroning Jinder anyone?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!=_&=&$;!&!!*&=

      Not gonna happen.
      Would be nice though.
      In a better world we'd be witnessing Neville vs AJ Styles/Nakamura by now.


      How dare you leave out Neville vs Shelton Benjamin?! Hell, I'd also LOVE Chad Gable vs Neville.

      Those matches would be decent. 
      Sure.
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      darealest47 58 minutes ago#297
      BaronNugget posted...
      Everything Enzo said was true, the guy is f***ing money. the interest in the Cruiserweight division has skyrocketed since he joined 205 Live.

      I agree.
      With a possible Neville leaving though, I don't think Enzo can keep the interest going but we'll see.
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      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2eVPxvaIzec
      SmashBurb 55 minutes ago#298
      1. Boards
      2. Pro Wrestling: WWE 
      3. Rumor: Neville walks out of WWE last night; may have quit

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