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Let me clarify.
Some matches are produced to be good. They give them time, kickouts, and various gimmicks that make a match good. It makes you think what a good wrestler really is. Could Yeti vs Scotty Riggs have been as good as Taker vs HBK if they ran a similar match? So, what is a bad match that was supposed to be good?
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I think HBK/HHH HIAC @ Bad Blood is appropriate here.
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BazzaPersonal posted...
I think HBK/HHH HIAC @ Bad Blood is appropriate here. Funny. That was the one match I had it mind when I made the topic. Lol
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MachoManSavage posted...
Let me clarify. No. A lot of it has to do with who's in ring just as much as the plans. To compare it to a movie, the original Hitchcock Psycho was amazing and still holds up to this day. The shot for shot remake in 98 starring Vince Vaughn? Not so much
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Haddes911 posted...
MachoManSavage posted...Let me clarify. But how would we know how good a wrestler is unless they were allowed to have a good match? Maybe Val Venis had as much in ring cred as HBK, but we wouldn't know because all his matches we're 4 minutes and by the numbers. But that is a solid example, I must say.
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HHH vs. Orton @ WM25
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I get what you're saying, but I think the general belief is that a guy will eventually show the peak of his ability at one time or another, even if it ends up being outside of WWE. So if a guy like Val Venus had an "HBK caliber" match in him, we would have seen it somewhere.
And then there's others who people will say is being held back by the WWE style and booking, and once they leave they'll be great. Then the leave and prove what they showed in WWE was the best they can do. CoughcodyrhodesCough |
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Edge vs Jericho from WM26 and Punk vs Jericho from WM28. Neither were bad matches by any means, but considering who was involved they should have turned out much better.
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bigblu89 posted...
I get what you're saying, but I think the general belief is that a guy will eventually show the peak of his ability at one time or another, even if it ends up being outside of WWE. So if a guy like Val Venus had an "HBK caliber" match in him, we would have seen it somewhere. HHH/HBK Hiac comes to mind As does HBK/HHH three stages of hell somewhat Not bad but HHH vs Benoit ironman Most Chavo/Eddie matchs somewhat
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hulkhogan1 posted...
Edge vs Jericho from WM26 and Punk vs Jericho from WM28. Neither were bad matches by any means, but considering who was involved they should have turned out much better. Just about all the Punk vs Jericho matches qualify, imo. They just didn't click as well as everyone thought they would. |
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I'd say the Shield V. Wyatt family - Had a lot of heat and build up to it and then kinda flopped
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Kronik vs Taker and Kane.
I wanted Kronik in the WWE for so long and it was the worst match I have ever seen
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The first AJ vs. KO match.
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Benoit vs Eddie ONS '05
Talk about the stage being set for a barn burner. Imagine how good that PPV would have been if they pulled out the 5 star stuff they were capable of.
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SmashBurb posted...
hulkhogan1 posted...Edge vs Jericho from WM26 and Punk vs Jericho from WM28. Neither were bad matches by any means, but considering who was involved they should have turned out much better. The Extreme Rules and Payback matches were very good. Even the WM match was good. Just didn't live up to the expectations.
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
Benoit vs Eddie ONS '05 ^this is a good answer, also; Chris Hero vs. Bryan Danielson - ROH Hell Freezes Over
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Most 2002 and on HHH matches
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I'm really surprised no one has said Reigns vs Triple H from WrestleMania last year. They tried EVERYTHING to make that match good and it was f***ing awful.
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robster_2005 posted...
I'd say the Shield V. Wyatt family - Had a lot of heat and build up to it and then kinda flopped O_O
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Bestoffuture posted...
SmashBurb posted...hulkhogan1 posted...Edge vs Jericho from WM26 and Punk vs Jericho from WM28. Neither were bad matches by any means, but considering who was involved they should have turned out much better. I think they were good by the standards of an average wrestler. By Punk and Jericho's own standards, however, they were all mediocre. They could get good matches out of just about anyone, but couldn't put on anything spectacular against eachother. GameReviews posted... I'm really surprised no one has said Reigns vs Triple H from WrestleMania last year. They tried EVERYTHING to make that match good and it was f***ing awful. I'm amazed it took this long for someone to s*** on Roman Reigns in this thread. Usually in "Name the worst/a bad ____" threads here, he's the first response.
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robster_2005 posted...
I'd say the Shield V. Wyatt family - Had a lot of heat and build up to it and then kinda flopped What? How so in your eyes? It was MOTY Caliber
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SmashBurb posted...
I'm amazed it took this long for someone to s*** on Roman Reigns in this thread. Its not s***ting on Reigns, that match was legit a bore fest. Chalk it up to bad chemistry if nothing else.
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Stover46 posted...
Most 2002 and on HHH matches Best answer in this topic. I can probably count on two hands the amount of 2002-Present HHH single matches that were something truly good. Summerslam 2002 Raw December 2003 with Shawn Michaels Vengeance 2005 Survivor Series 2005 No Mercy 2007 last Orton match No Mercy 2008 WrestleMania 30 Roadblock 2016 I probably missed some as I just did a rough remembrance, but yeah. I can't recall any tremendous performances he put in since 2002 other than those or in multiman matches. |
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hulkhogan1 posted...
Edge vs Jericho from WM26 This. Like you said but a bad match in traditional sense but that should havev easily "stole the show" as they say. It was 2 amazing guys on the biggest stage of them all and it was on part with a pretty good raw match. Not the classic bout it should have been
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DarkDragon386 posted...
Stover46 posted...Most 2002 and on HHH matches HIAC Vs taker was good just for the story and the hug with hbk ect...
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ssjmole posted...
I knew someone would bring up those two Taker Mania matches, and to both of them, I say they're awful. That's just me though. I've despised the Mania 27 match since I saw it. I liked the HiaC at first. Did another viewing of it and thought it sucked. |
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Mania 27 may as well have never happened. Was just a prelude to 28, between HHH/Taker and Rock/Cena
I actually liked the first 2/3 of hell in a cell, but the last 10 or so was just garbage
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Rollins vs Owens, Clash of Champions. It was just a regular match with no story involved. I expected Rollins to go berserk at Owens, a Triple H interference, maybe the setup for a new heel stable, but all we got was a Jericho interference for Owens to win. Like Triple H and Orton, it lacked emotion and anger.
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All the Rollins-Owens matches sucked
Oh and Rollins-triple h TBH Rollins had an awful year back from injury. Tagging with Ambrose has been a godsend
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DarkDragon386 posted...
ssjmole posted... Oh no the first one was garbage lol I just thought hiac had great story telling it was actually fun
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BloodPump posted...
SmashBurb posted...I'm amazed it took this long for someone to s*** on Roman Reigns in this thread. Yeah, seriously, regardless of whether or not you like Reigns, that match was an abortion, and they tried f***ing everything to get it to be good. It's possibly the worst WrestleMania main event of all time (definitely bottom 5).
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I don't know if I quite understand the question but a lot of recent women's matches came to mind for me, like the HIAC and Ironwoman matches between Sasha and Charlotte, and the women's MitB matches. They tried to put over all of those matches as being so great and all of them were huge disappointments in my eyes.
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Man HHH is the king of disappointment
Honestly this is smiling a good case for Orton being better than we give him props for He hasn't disappointed as often as this
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Cena vs AJ at Royal Rumble is another one. Marks seemed determined to call it a 5 star match to try and match Omega/Okada.
Also, Charlotte vs Sasha from last year's Summerslam. They tried to do stuff that was way out of their leagues and it failed miserably.
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Seth Rollins vs. HHH
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HHH Orton - WM 25
f*** me. That was so bad.
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BazzaPersonal posted...
Cena vs AJ at Royal Rumble is another one. No its not. Its no Omega/Okada but they had a damn fine trilogy of matches and saying otherwise is lying.
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BloodPump posted...
BazzaPersonal posted...Cena vs AJ at Royal Rumble is another one. I thought that match was boring as f***. First one too, and that the summerslam match was the only good one, but also insanely overrated. Styles had much better matches with Ambrose and reigns imo
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I feel like the Cena/Styles matches were basically the same match 3 times. Same problem I had with the Cena/Owens trilogy. The SS match was definitely the best though.
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