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Monday, September 11, 2017

Nothing important ever happens at Survivor Series

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Fenrir-Juubi 3 days ago#1
I admit, we had a good main event match last year(not that squash, the SurSer Men's Match), but something tells me it is gonna be a filler PPV again.

Specially since I think Jinder is almost guaranteed to fight for the WWE championship at the show ( rematch if Nakamura wins or another title defence), and Brock will not be there.
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The_Fek2005 3 days ago#2
GameGearFear 3 days ago#3
Yeah aside from last year and like in 01 and 03 SvS has never really been important.
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SVS '14 was pretty significant.
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Fenrir-Juubi 3 days ago#5
Hardcore_Adult posted...
SVS '14 was pretty significant.


Remember when the Authority was back in less than two months and even inserted Rollins in the WWE title match at the Rumble?

Ok, Sting maybe was significant, but his WWE run was like lightning: it ended before it could begin. Hel, at Sting's age, it don't should have started.
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GMTELigence 2 days ago#8
ITT 1997 doesn't exist.
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Mr_Yooj 2 days ago#9
Remember that year they said they were gonna drop the Survivor Series PPVs but then backed out because it was one of the Big 4 and just kept it going
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TonyRodney 2 days ago#10
GMTELigence posted...
ITT 1997 doesn't exist.

It doesn't, they were getting killed by wcw :/.
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GMTELigence posted...
ITT 1997 doesn't exist.


That wasn't kayfabe though.
GMTELigence 2 days ago#13
The title change was, and that event basically kickstarted the next three years of the company. But if you want to split hairs and not count that, there's still plenty that has happened at Survivor Series that renders this topic as nonsense. Off the top of my head, here are some notable things to happen at Survivor Series.

1990: Debut of Undertaker
1994: Diesel's face turn and rocket push to the top of the card
1996: Debut of Rocky Maivia
1998: Deadly Games Tournament; Rock's first WWF title win
1999: Austin car angle
2001: WWF vs Alliance
2002: Heyman turns on Lesnar; Lesnar turns face
2003: End of Austin as GM
2005: Brand Warfare; Bischoff out as GM shortly thereafter
2011: Rock's return match; Punk's 434 day title reign begins
2012: The Shield debuts
2014: Sting's first appearance on WWE TV
2015: Roman Reigns' first WWE title win

But no, nothing important ever happens at Survivor Series...
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spiffyone 2 days ago#14
Survivor Series was a great concept in the beginning: a bunch of elimination four man tag matches, leading up to one wrestler being named Sole Survivor (hence the PPV's name).

After they dropped that format, it's just been another PPV with a rather meaningless name.

They should really bring the format back as the focus, and tie it into winner getting a title shot or something.
AzumaNaroon 2 days ago#15
Hardcore_Adult posted...
And FTR, I was apprehensive about Sting joining the Circus. 0-2 in WWE, man.


Technically he's 2-2. He was in a match on RAW that he won by DQ, and then that match was turned into a tag match which was won cleanly. But both his PPV bouts were losses, true.
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spiffyone posted...
Survivor Series was a great concept in the beginning: a bunch of elimination four man tag matches, leading up to one wrestler being named Sole Survivor (hence the PPV's name).

After they dropped that format, it's just been another PPV with a rather meaningless name.

They should really bring the format back as the focus, and tie it into winner getting a title shot or something.


TBF, That's the purpose of the RR and MITB, and was for KOTR back in the day.
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GMTELigence posted...
The title change was, and that event basically kickstarted the next three years of the company. But if you want to split hairs and not count that, there's still plenty that has happened at Survivor Series that renders this topic as nonsense. Off the top of my head, here are some notable things to happen at Survivor Series.

1990: Debut of Undertaker
1994: Diesel's face turn and rocket push to the top of the card
1996: Debut of Rocky Maivia
1998: Deadly Games Tournament; Rock's first WWF title win
1999: Austin car angle
2001: WWF vs Alliance
2002: Heyman turns on Lesnar; Lesnar turns face
2003: End of Austin as GM
2005: Brand Warfare; Bischoff out as GM shortly thereafter
2011: Rock's return match; Punk's 434 day title reign begins
2012: The Shield debuts
2014: Sting's first appearance on WWE TV
2015: Roman Reigns' first WWE title win

But no, nothing important ever happens at Survivor Series...

You missed goldust debut in 95
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I think most of us would rather forget 1995 from a wrestling standpoint.
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hulkhogan1 2 days ago#19
Fenrir-Juubi posted...
Hardcore_Adult posted...
SVS '14 was pretty significant.


Remember when the Authority was back in less than two months and even inserted Rollins in the WWE title match at the Rumble?

Ok, Sting maybe was significant, but his WWE run was like lightning: it ended before it could begin. Hel, at Sting's age, it don't should have started.


Regardless of how things turned out afterwards, that match along with that moment was truly special IMO. It was one of those matches that reminded me why I'm a wrestling fan.
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spiffyone 2 days ago#20
Hardcore_Adult posted...
spiffyone posted...
Survivor Series was a great concept in the beginning: a bunch of elimination four man tag matches, leading up to one wrestler being named Sole Survivor (hence the PPV's name).

After they dropped that format, it's just been another PPV with a rather meaningless name.

They should really bring the format back as the focus, and tie it into winner getting a title shot or something.


TBF, That's the purpose of the RR and MITB, and was for KOTR back in the day.


Well, sure, but the Survivor Series as a concept was stronger than any of those save for Royal Rumble, IMO. The unique set up of the teams (mixed heels and faces on the same teams in some cases, even those in feuds) and the way the elimination was handled (wherein if a team wound up winning over the others the members of that team would have to face each other) provided drama simply by being. There's a lot you can do with such a concept in terms of storytelling all in one night: new feuds started, old feuds settled or accelerated, a bunch of turns, new alliances formed, old alliances broken, etc.

Right now it's, again, handled like any other no gimmick focus no name PPV. Bring back that elimination four man team tournament format, however, and it has the potential to be among the most important PPVs as it would be a focal point for storylines.

I will say that they also need to bring back KotR the way it was originally as well, btw. MITB should be a rarely used gimmick match, not something an entire PPV is focused on.
Blue_Target 2 days ago#21
With the brand split back, they need to do more Raw vs Smackdown 5 on 5. Have more superstars invading the other show kinda stuff.
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How is that not the most significant match in history?
7/10 for me means it wasn't really bad or really good, but resting somewhere in the middle. -hulkhogan1
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Hardcore_Adult posted...
I think most of us would rather forget 1995 from a wrestling standpoint.

Goldust began the integration of edgier characters and stories. Mankind would soon follow
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Not to mention the diesel vs Bret hart title match was excellent. Even the jobber elimination match with Jannety winning was awesome. Not everything about 1995 sucked especially SvS
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SvS 2002 also had Shawn Michaels winning his first world title in 5 years after his return to wrestling.
iknoweverything posted...
SvS 2002 also had Shawn Michaels winning his first world title in 5 years after his return to wrestling.

Yep, I re draw my earlier statement after some thinking. My first statement was more so thinking how the majority of the shows were more boring less so than important. 

In 02,03 and 17 the whole show was engaging to some degree.
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rugahboi 2 days ago#28
Kayfabe or not, SvS is host to one of the most important moments in WRESTLING history. Not just WWE, but wrestling as a whole; so this topic is wrong.
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rugahboi posted...
Kayfabe or not, SvS is host to one of the most important moments in WRESTLING history. Not just WWE, but wrestling as a whole; so this topic is wrong.

Hes wrong but that would make him right if that was the only worthwhile moment. However the topic is wrong so meh.
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CourtofOwls 2 days ago#30
iknoweverything posted...
SvS 2002 also had Shawn Michaels winning his first world title in 5 years after his return to wrestling.


which was also the first elimination chamber match
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Svs 2002 also had the debut of the Big Bad Booty Daddy
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Easily one of the most significant PPVs. TC couldn't be more wrong.
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snoochtonooch posted...
Not to mention the diesel vs Bret hart title match was excellent. Even the jobber elimination match with Jannety winning was awesome. Not everything about 1995 sucked especially SvS


Diesel was still terrible despite having three good matches that year.
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