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Has Triple H ever carried someone to a very good or great match?

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Here's a list IMO of what I consider great carry jobs

HBK vs Sid
HBK vs Flair
HBK vs Diesel 
Bret vs Diesel
Bret vs Bulldog SS
Okada vs Cody Rhodes 
Okada vs Bad News Fal
Flair vs Luger
Steamboat vs Luger 
AJ Styles vs Roman Reigns 
AJ Styles vs Dean Ambrose 
Chris Benoit vs Albert 
Bret Vs Piper 
Flair vs Terry Von Erich 
Dean Malenko vs Scotty 2 Hotty
Savage vs Warrior WM6

To be fair: most wrestlers can't carry guys really...

Shawn 
Bret
Styles
Flair
Steamboat
Benoit 

And Okada are the only ones I can think of that can get a great match out of basically anyone.

And I even felt Benoit had some limits on whom he could fully fully carry
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Johnny_Steel 6 days ago#2
His match with Cactus Jack at the 2000 RR was great.
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The_Altrox 6 days ago#3
What about that match he had with Kevin Nash a few years ago? That was much better than it deserved to be.
Drumiester 6 days ago#4
Batista
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Iceyflame 6 days ago#5
He Carried Dean Ambrose not to long ago to a very good match
KnivesCore714 6 days ago#6
Johnny_Steel posted...
His match with Cactus Jack at the 2000 RR was great.


That's not carrying. Foley has had great matchs with literally

The Rock
Austin 
Sting
Vader 
Orton
Edge
Taker

Prolly more I'm forgetting. He doesn't need to be carried 

The Ambrose match was a good showing.

He had one of Jeff Hardy's best matchs but Hardy is generally good If not amazing and doesn't really need to be carried
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KnivesCore714 6 days ago#7
Drumiester posted...
Batista


Hell in a cell

That deserves a mention
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GameGearFear 6 days ago#8
His match vs cena at WM23 maybe? Not a great match but a good one.
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GS4Life 6 days ago#10
I'm trying to think he gave Ambrose probably his best single's match. 

Beyond that while Triple H was in tons of great matches and certainly carried his weight in those matches they were against great performers.
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Triple h needs someone equal to or better than him to have a great match. Foley will be a f***ing crash test dummy for him so that don't count so no, I don't think triple h is a good wrestler. 

He's just a more successful Jeff Jarrett IMO, he made better moves backstage though than he ever could in front of the crowd. When you think attitude era you don't think of HHH, it's all stone cold and the rock
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Galcian 6 days ago#12
he didn't carry but was contributer to Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H @ Wrestlemania 20
Muflaggin 6 days ago#13
Never. Got carried plenty.
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KnivesCore714 posted...
Bret Vs Piper


Nobody needed to carry Roddy Piper.
The problem is that he's been in the main event for so long, he's mostly fought really good performers so neither needed to be carried. You'd have to go back to his earlier days to find matches where he carried a crappy wrestler, if any exist.

Only examples I can think of are Nash and Batista. They weren't great, but they should have been horrible and ended up being good.
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Nobody is going remember this but he carried Rikishi to a great match on Raw back in 2000. He was on fire back then.
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KnivesCore714 6 days ago#17
Assassin2713 posted...
The problem is that he's been in the main event for so long, he's mostly fought really good performers so neither needed to be carried. You'd have to go back to his earlier days to find matches where he carried a crappy wrestler, if any exist.

Only examples I can think of are Nash and Batista. They weren't great, but they should have been horrible and ended up being good.


Batista wasn't terrible but he wasn't that good

Had one of Takers best mania matchs. Him and Bats had great chemistry.

HHH and Mero had some good matchs. But Mero was very solid pre injury
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alphagamerXXL posted...
Nobody is going remember this but he carried Rikishi to a great match on Raw back in 2000. He was on fire back then.

Well he was the best worker in the company at the time.
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Amazak 6 days ago#19
He carried the Warrior to a classic at Wrestlemania XII.
KaiSing SM 6 days ago#20
Amazak posted...
He carried the Warrior to a classic at Wrestlemania XII.

id argue warrior carried him
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KnivesCore714 posted...
And I even felt Benoit had some limits on whom he could fully fully carry

Benoit carried Kane, A-Train and even Viscera to great matches
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Against sheamus at wm26. It was a surprisingly good power match.
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invertedlegdrop posted...
Against sheamus at wm26. It was a surprisingly good power match.


I forgot about that one
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Fate1021 6 days ago#24
invertedlegdrop posted...
Against sheamus at wm26. It was a surprisingly good power match.
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BloodPump 6 days ago#26
Johnny_Steel posted...
His match with Cactus Jack at the 2000 RR was great.


Yep, but he didn't carry it. Mic Foley doesn't really get the credit hes deserved. He had one of the most perfect matches ever with Michaels on mind games, hampered only by a really really s***ty run in finish.
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pirate17 6 days ago#27
BloodPump posted...
Johnny_Steel posted...
His match with Cactus Jack at the 2000 RR was great.


Yep, but he didn't carry it. Mic Foley doesn't really get the credit hes deserved. He had one of the most perfect matches ever with Michaels on mind games, hampered only by a really really s***ty run in finish.


Agreed. He also deserves A LOT of credit in getting HHH over as a main eventer
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Lukenatme 6 days ago#28
snoochtonooch posted...
Against Khali at summerslam. One of the few good khali matches


I was there, 4th row hard camera side. Surprisingly good and the crowd was in it.
I'd argue his match with Shelton Benjamin during the former's Raw debut was Triple H's best match that didn't involve the Undertaker or Shawn Michaels
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I4NRulez 6 days ago#30
Okada is the BITW world right now but he didnt carry Cody.

The match was OK but its not like Cody is bad enough to need to be carried.
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BloodPump 6 days ago#31
Cody isn't bad, but come on that was a total carry job during the second half. Its the best match Cody's been in bar none so far, njpw, indy or wwe.
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I4NRulez 6 days ago#32
BloodPump posted...
Cody isn't bad, but come on that was a total carry job during the second half. Its the best match Cody's been in bar none so far, njpw, indy or wwe.


i dont think the match was that good. There were far better matches in the US tournament than that match.
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BloodPump 6 days ago#33
I4NRulez posted...
BloodPump posted...
Cody isn't bad, but come on that was a total carry job during the second half. Its the best match Cody's been in bar none so far, njpw, indy or wwe.


There were far better matches in the US tournament than that match.


I agree with that much at least.
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KnivesCore714 5 days ago#35
Brandon_Jacobs posted...
I'd argue his match with Shelton Benjamin during the former's Raw debut was Triple H's best match that didn't involve the Undertaker or Shawn Michaels


Very underrated match.

One of his best non gimmick matchs - Trips did good stuff with Flair, Tajiri, Hurricane , and some others in a non gimmick environment.
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Brandon_Jacobs posted...
I'd argue his match with Shelton Benjamin during the former's Raw debut was Triple H's best match that didn't involve the Undertaker or Shawn Michaels


That match was amazing. That was back when I was a HHH and Shelton Mark. I was in heaven
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spiffyone 5 days ago#37
KnivesCore714 posted...
Shawn 
Bret
Styles
Flair
Steamboat
Benoit 

And Okada are the only ones I can think of that can get a great match out of basically anyone.


I'd throw in Bockwinkel, Race, and maybe Hennig in there as well.

In Bockwinkel's case, he even got a f***ing good technical based match out of Bruiser Brody of all people, whose entire character and most matches consisted of him going in and beating the s*** out of opponents with maybe one or two wrestling moves thrown in (Goldberg has cited Brody as his key pro wrestling inspiration, btw).
KnivesCore714 5 days ago#38
spiffyone posted...
KnivesCore714 posted...
Shawn 
Bret
Styles
Flair
Steamboat
Benoit 

And Okada are the only ones I can think of that can get a great match out of basically anyone.


I'd throw in Bockwinkel, Race, and maybe Hennig in there as well.

In Bockwinkel's case, he even got a f***ing good technical based match out of Bruiser Brody of all people, whose entire character and most matches consisted of him going in and beating the s*** out of opponents with maybe one or two wrestling moves thrown in (Goldberg has cited Brody as his key pro wrestling inspiration, btw).


I considered Hennig. Hennig was IMO more motivated Ziggler tier.

He could make any match entertaining but most of that was just him bumping around. In the AWA he displayed a more varied palette.

Hennig had a tendency against a lot of guys to bury himself and disappointed against some great workers

He mostly just didnt get enough chances to work long matchs with top tier guys.

Like a proper match between him and Owen could have been amazing, as could a main event program with Bret.

Or a steamboat match. I think Hennig wasn't quite elite.

Race and bokwinkle were though I'd say
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rh000001 5 days ago#39
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I4NRulez posted...
BloodPump posted...
Cody isn't bad, but come on that was a total carry job during the second half. Its the best match Cody's been in bar none so far, njpw, indy or wwe.


i dont think the match was that good. There were far better matches in the US tournament than that match.

That's true but it's still true that it's Cody's best match ever.
JimPean 5 days ago#41
Iceyflame posted...
He Carried Dean Ambrose not to long ago to a very good match

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musumane 5 days ago#43
vs Benoit on the Eddie Tribute show ( no way Benoit was in anyway commanding that match )
vs Eugene Summerslam 2004
vs Sheamus WM 26
vs Jeff Hardy Smackdown 2008
vs Koslof ( match where Edge returns)
vs Orton ( No Mercy 2007)
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Vivi0198 5 days ago#44
alphagamerXXL posted...
Nobody is going remember this but he carried Rikishi to a great match on Raw back in 2000. He was on fire back then.

Jean jacket HHH was better then anyone on the roster at the time.

As a matter of fact I'd rank jean jacket HHH from the early 2000 (possibly 99, can't really remember) to 2002 as one of the best and most entertaining wrestling characters of all time.
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pirate17 posted...
BloodPump posted...
Johnny_Steel posted...
His match with Cactus Jack at the 2000 RR was great.


Yep, but he didn't carry it. Mic Foley doesn't really get the credit hes deserved. He had one of the most perfect matches ever with Michaels on mind games, hampered only by a really really s***ty run in finish.


Agreed. He also deserves A LOT of credit in getting HHH over as a main eventer


Rock too. Foley always brought that edgier side out of anyone he faced, and it really made them look strong whether they were face or heel.
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He probably brought useful wrestlemania experience to his match against Bryan. Probably the most interested I've been in a Triple H performance ever. Obviously didn't carry Bryan though.
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snikt6384 5 days ago#47
Vivi0198 posted...
alphagamerXXL posted...
Nobody is going remember this but he carried Rikishi to a great match on Raw back in 2000. He was on fire back then.

Jean jacket HHH was better then anyone on the roster at the time.

As a matter of fact I'd rank jean jacket HHH from the early 2000 (possibly 99, can't really remember) to 2002 as one of the best and most entertaining wrestling characters of all time.


Agreed. I love him then and he's actually my favorite wrestler of the AE. It was the second he was awarded the belt by Bischoff, cut off that beard, did the Flair tribute trunks and went on that infamous title run that I tuned out. 

I still have love for him regardless, and I'm glad the Triple H: Lord of the Shovel internet thing has been replaced by Triple H: Guy Who We Want To See Takeover for Vince.
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rugahboi 4 days ago#49
I'm no Sheamus fan, but are we really gonna pretend he's someone that has to be carried?
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    Vivi0198 posted...
    alphagamerXXL posted...
    Nobody is going remember this but he carried Rikishi to a great match on Raw back in 2000. He was on fire back then.

    Jean jacket HHH was better then anyone on the roster at the time.

    As a matter of fact I'd rank jean jacket HHH from the early 2000 (possibly 99, can't really remember) to 2002 as one of the best and most entertaining wrestling characters of all time.

    Still wasn't better than the rock and I still didn't like him better than biker taker.
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    Vivi0198 4 days ago#52
    GameGearFear posted...
    Vivi0198 posted...
    alphagamerXXL posted...
    Nobody is going remember this but he carried Rikishi to a great match on Raw back in 2000. He was on fire back then.

    Jean jacket HHH was better then anyone on the roster at the time.

    As a matter of fact I'd rank jean jacket HHH from the early 2000 (possibly 99, can't really remember) to 2002 as one of the best and most entertaining wrestling characters of all time.

    Still wasn't better than the rock and I still didn't like him better than biker taker.


    Like I said he was ONE of the best. But let's be honest here that was a time when wrestling was at it's very best and the top guys of all time were around.
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    ssjmole 4 days ago#53
    Unpopular but Kevin Nash. Nash is good imo but old man Nash that returned after he text himself was not good. HHH carried him in that sledgehammer ladder match to be a pretty fun match
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