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Monday, September 11, 2017

Big Dick Dave Money Meltzer calls top WWE stars "spot monkeys"

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Look at him masterfully shut down this obnoxious WWE Cultist with a well reasoned argument

https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/905720541255835648

For those trolls blocked by Diamond Dave, here's the tweet.

Again, who are the spot monkeys? Cena, Reigns, Rollins, Strowman, Lesnar are spot monkeys if you watch them and they are WWEs top stars


WWE marks in ruins AGAIN thanks to Big Daddy Dave.

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Via_Negativa 4 days ago#2
Not really...

Doing spots doesn't mean you're a spot monkey.
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Luckyneog 4 days ago#4
I'm so tired of that fool, does he realise that without those spot monkeys he is talking about, he wouldn't have a job.
It ain't over till it's over, so until then i'm gonna take my time in finishing you off!!!
Cena and Strowman spot monkeys!? Lmfao

(Everyone else I agree with. They go through an average of 2.4 announcer tables and barricades per PPV match)
Slow and steady wins the race
I saw Dave Meltzer at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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Via_Negativa 4 days ago#7
ItsVinceRusso posted...
I saw Dave Meltzer at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.


ROFL
What! The Farmclub! It's the mother f'ing -chika-chika- Farmclub!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJr8QDBH-3E
bigpatpunchhard 4 days ago#8
2SweetforTurtle posted...
Cena and Strowman spot monkeys!? Lmfao

(Everyone else I agree with. They go through an average of 2.4 announcer tables and barricades per PPV match)

Strowman is absolutely a spot monkey and Cena since 2014 is called "PWG Cena" for a reason.
I feel like you've taken this out of context.....
No...

A spot monkey is somebody who just does a bunch of spots in a row (mainly WOW spots) with no psychology and no selling. There's no rhyme or reason to the spots.

Everybody does spots, but not everybody is a spot monkey.

Cena doing his FKS doesn't make him a spot monkey.

Doing a table spot doesn't make you a spot monkey either.
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Vyrulisse 4 days ago#11
He's a blatant NJPW mark and he calls WWE guys spot monkeys... lel.
I4NRulez 4 days ago#12
Vyrulisse posted...
He's a blatant NJPW mark and he calls WWE guys spot monkeys... lel.


I think he likes PWG the most
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That picture really lampshades how small Okada is... I wanna like him but his finish looks like something only a big man could do with any force.
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Stover46 4 days ago#15
Via_Negativa posted...
A spot monkey is somebody who just does a bunch of spots in a row (mainly WOW spots) with no psychology and no selling. There's no rhyme or reason to the spots.

Sounds like every "Big Match John" match when he just spams various moves in a row to near fall after near fall
So it is typed, so it is done...
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Luckyneog posted...
I'm so tired of that fool, does he realise that without those spot monkeys he is talking about, he wouldn't have a job.

when Messiah Meltzer speaks you sit your peon ass down and shut the hell up.
Crazyman93 4 days ago#18
Stover46 posted...
Via_Negativa posted...
A spot monkey is somebody who just does a bunch of spots in a row (mainly WOW spots) with no psychology and no selling. There's no rhyme or reason to the spots.

Sounds like every "Big Match John" match when he just spams various moves in a row to near fall after near fall

REally? Because it sounds like every indy trash guy that smarks love so damn much.

Via_Negativa posted...
ItsVinceRusso posted...
snip.


ROFL

Yeah, that copypasta was amusing the first time I saw too. It wears off after a dozen times.
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DizzyTechno 4 days ago#19
He's right, WWE matches lack psychology.
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DizzyTechno posted...
He's right, WWE matches lack psychology.


Keep telling yourself that.
What! The Farmclub! It's the mother f'ing -chika-chika- Farmclub!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJr8QDBH-3E
bigpatpunchhard 4 days ago#21
HorrorSindicate posted...
That picture really lampshades how small Okada is... I wanna like him but his finish looks like something only a big man could do with any force.

He's legit 6'4 and 240lb, that's bigger than most WWE main eventers lmao.
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KingHova045 4 days ago#23
bigpatpunchhard posted...
HorrorSindicate posted...
That picture really lampshades how small Okada is... I wanna like him but his finish looks like something only a big man could do with any force.

He's legit 6'4 and 240lb, that's bigger than most WWE main eventers lmao.


You can't possibly, honestly, believe that guy is 6'4 240 can you?
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ItsVinceRusso posted...
I saw Dave Meltzer at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.



WTF. And people give this guy a good rep when he does s*** like this?
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DizzyTechno posted...
He's right, WWE matches lack psychology.

This. For all the talk of the WWE not being like the indies the only real difference is the matches are wrestled at a much slower pace, the moves look less cool, and the matches are interrupted by commercials. "Finisher spamming", lack of consistent selling, and and high spots that don't amount to anything in the big picture of the match are all prominent on WWE programming weekly.
Quintana88 4 days ago#26
Cena is pretty much all spots at this point. One of his last matches with Styles was fairly outrageous, if I remember right he hit the Avalanche AA well, well before the actual end of the match. I just remember being surprised the match continued for like 20 minutes after that. That said, it was still amazingly entertaining. 

I don't know where that Twitter argument started but you could certainly argue those WWE guys are bigger spot monkeys than say, Okada or Naito. If we're talking like Ricochet or Will Ospreay, then I would say they're all, including the WWE guys, wrestling a similar modern spot-heavy style. And if we're talking the Young Bucks, I'm not sure they even count anymore, since they turned being spot monkeys into the actual gimmick
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Crazyman93 4 days ago#27
Izual_Reborn posted...
WTF. And people give this guy a good rep when he does s*** like this?

Well considering it's a copypasta with no factual basis...
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bigpatpunchhard 4 days ago#28
KingHova045 posted...
You can't possibly, honestly, believe that guy is 6'4 240 can you?

I've met him IRL, and you haven't even watched his matches so don't talk to me like you have a f***ing clue, you weapon.
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bigpatpunchhard 4 days ago#29
NOBODY is allowed to talk to ME like that in my topics, get out CLOWNS
Crazyman93 4 days ago#30
bigpatpunchhard posted...
I've met him IRL, and you haven't even watched his matches so don't talk to me like you have a f***ing clue, you weapon.

The f*** kind of an insult is weapon? You may as well have called him a toaster.
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bigpatpunchhard 4 days ago#31
shut up toaster
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What! The Farmclub! It's the mother f'ing -chika-chika- Farmclub!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJr8QDBH-3E
bigpatpunchhard 4 days ago#33
Quintana88 posted...
Cena is pretty much all spots at this point. One of his last matches with Styles was fairly outrageous, if I remember right he hit the Avalanche AA well, well before the actual end of the match. I just remember being surprised the match continued for like 20 minutes after that. That said, it was still amazingly entertaining. 

I don't know where that Twitter argument started but you could certainly argue those WWE guys are bigger spot monkeys than say, Okada or Naito. If we're talking like Ricochet or Will Ospreay, then I would say they're all, including the WWE guys, wrestling a similar modern spot-heavy style. And if we're talking the Young Bucks, I'm not sure they even count anymore, since they turned being spot monkeys into the actual gimmick

There is no way you can argue that my good friend, El Ingobernable, Tetsuya Naito is a bigger spot monkey than the PWG wannabes in the WWE main event. Ricochet and Ospreay want to be in WWE so bad and you can tell from the way they wrestle. Gedo should just use them to put over Hiromu who is good and cool and the best junior in the biz god bless
DizzyTechno 4 days ago#34
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Yeah, for all the talk about killing their bodies, Yuji Nagata at 49 had better matches this year than anyone in WWE.


https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/905723497820725248

I agree with this too, Nagata had more MOTYCs in a month span than anyone in WWE has had all year.
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olk3034 4 days ago#35
nobody even care about your japanese weeb stuff loser this is america and this is a WWE board if you don't like wwe then as they say GET THE F OUT
bigpatpunchhard posted...
HorrorSindicate posted...
That picture really lampshades how small Okada is... I wanna like him but his finish looks like something only a big man could do with any force.

He's legit 6'4 and 240lb, that's bigger than most WWE main eventers lmao.


He's smaller than omega... who's smaller than Joe. Who is not 6'4.

And okada is billed 6'3 there's no way he's billed shorter than he is. Lariat and that setup should be for guys like Vader's size.

Or at least dudes with some tris and bis like Koji.
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I don't agree with using the term "spot monkey" as an insult, as if it means the person in question isn't as good as somebody else. Being a "spot monkey" doesn't really make somebody worse than any other wrestler, it just makes them different.
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JoCrazy 4 days ago#38
A thing New Japan does better than WWE: Protecting finishers. Think about how many finishers are kicked off all the time in WWE. It's ridiculous. It does at that point make those wrestlers spot wrestlers, as WWE 'spot booking' those matches. 

Watch any of the Okada/Omega matches from this year or just watch a full New Japan ppv, see how well finishers are protected and made to be more effective.
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BiggWillieStylk posted...
I don't agree with using the term "spot monkey" as an insult, as if it means the person in question isn't as good as somebody else. Being a "spot monkey" doesn't really make somebody worse than any other wrestler, it just makes them different.


Total bulls***.

If you're a spot monkey, it means that you're devoid of psychology and the ability to sell in your matches. It means you can't tell a story.

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bigpatpunchhard 4 days ago#40
HorrorSindicate posted...
He's smaller than omega... who's smaller than Joe. Who is not 6'4.

HMAUiie

LMAO shut up talking about NJPW when you clearly don't watch the product. Okada shorter than Omega wtf are you on you buffoon?

olk3034 posted...
nobody even care about your japanese weeb stuff loser this is america and this is a WWE board if you don't like wwe then as they say GET THE F OUT

you can't tell me what to do dad, I moved out on my own now
lemondrop7 4 days ago#41
People like dif things. Wwe marks might be lame but even lamer r people telling them their opinions suck
KingHova045 4 days ago#42
bigpatpunchhard posted...
KingHova045 posted...
You can't possibly, honestly, believe that guy is 6'4 240 can you?

I've met him IRL, and you haven't even watched his matches so don't talk to me like you have a f***ing clue, you weapon.


Who gaf about matches. That has nothing to do with his size, which is you think he's 6'4 240, despite being billed as smaller by NJ. Well than I have to assume you've never seen someone who's actually that big irl.
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NemarPott 4 days ago#43
Ring work has little to no meaning or impact in WWE. If any of the top guys were spot monkeys it would be an upgrade to what wwe has produced in the last 10 years. We might get one really good match once a year and it's never at WM where they SHOULD be showcasing their best....

Also I have no idea why any wrestling fan in the world would care about Dave meltzer. His opinions suck, he acts like he knows way more than he does, he answers all questions with "idk y'know" and has been doing a his job longer than I've been alive so it's really sad he's still so boring and unappealing at it. 

I don't hate the guy but if I saw him at a grocery store I wouldn't even look twice as I walked past him.
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bigpatpunchhard 4 days ago#44
KingHova045 posted...
Who gaf about matches. That has nothing to do with his size, which is you think he's 6'4 240, despite being billed as smaller by NJ. Well than I have to assume you've never seen someone who's actually that big irl.

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bigpatpunchhard 4 days ago#45
also I've met big show and he wasn't that tall
It kind of makes sense in a way. WWE currently all about creating "moments". Spots are a way to create in ring "moments". 

I imagine Meltzer might just be comparing these spots to maybe a more technical match pacing of new Japan.

I wouldn't take someones opinion or statement as a personal insult of what you enjoy.
JoCrazy posted...
A thing New Japan does better than WWE: Protecting finishers. Think about how many finishers are kicked off all the time in WWE. It's ridiculous. It does at that point make those wrestlers spot wrestlers, as WWE 'spot booking' those matches. 

Watch any of the Okada/Omega matches from this year or just watch a full New Japan ppv, see how well finishers are protected and made to be more effective.

There was a time wwe protected almost all finishers until rock vs cena 2 and hhh vs taker. Brock being the beast kind of ruined it as well. Before that stuff no one was breaking the FU or damn near anyone finishers.
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Dynedux 4 days ago#48
Yeah, matches are much better with 37 identical knee strikes peppered in between 52 rip cord clotheslines. 

Lmfao
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HorrorSindicate posted...
bigpatpunchhard posted...
HorrorSindicate posted...
That picture really lampshades how small Okada is... I wanna like him but his finish looks like something only a big man could do with any force.

He's legit 6'4 and 240lb, that's bigger than most WWE main eventers lmao.


He's smaller than omega... who's smaller than Joe. Who is not 6'4.

And okada is billed 6'3 there's no way he's billed shorter than he is. Lariat and that setup should be for guys like Vader's size.

Or at least dudes with some tris and bis like Koji.


Okada isn't smaller than Omega. He's actually pretty damn tall. Don't let the whole "Japanese" thing fool you.
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    Bunch of dumb people talking out of their ass about a promotion they've never watched for any real amount of time ITT.
    lostoutlawnb posted...
    It kind of makes sense in a way. WWE currently all about creating "moments". Spots are a way to create in ring "moments". 

    I imagine Meltzer might just be comparing these spots to maybe a more technical match pacing of new Japan.

    I wouldn't take someones opinion or statement as a personal insult of what you enjoy.

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    2SweetforTurtle posted...
    Cena and Strowman spot monkeys!? Lmfao

    (Everyone else I agree with. They go through an average of 2.4 announcer tables and barricades per PPV match)

    You mean the guy who broke the ring, two tables to flip over the third and threw someone through the cage isn't a spot monkey?
    Quintana88 4 days ago#54
    bigpatpunchhard posted...
    Quintana88 posted...
    Cena is pretty much all spots at this point. One of his last matches with Styles was fairly outrageous, if I remember right he hit the Avalanche AA well, well before the actual end of the match. I just remember being surprised the match continued for like 20 minutes after that. That said, it was still amazingly entertaining. 

    I don't know where that Twitter argument started but you could certainly argue those WWE guys are bigger spot monkeys than say, Okada or Naito. If we're talking like Ricochet or Will Ospreay, then I would say they're all, including the WWE guys, wrestling a similar modern spot-heavy style. And if we're talking the Young Bucks, I'm not sure they even count anymore, since they turned being spot monkeys into the actual gimmick

    There is no way you can argue that my good friend, El Ingobernable, Tetsuya Naito is a bigger spot monkey than the PWG wannabes in the WWE main event. Ricochet and Ospreay want to be in WWE so bad and you can tell from the way they wrestle. Gedo should just use them to put over Hiromu who is good and cool and the best junior in the biz god bless


    Yeah I was arguing the opposite basically. Naito is not a spot monkey
    And everything I say is calculated appropriated written and arranged in Feng Shui.
    JoanOfArcade posted...
    2SweetforTurtle posted...
    Cena and Strowman spot monkeys!? Lmfao

    (Everyone else I agree with. They go through an average of 2.4 announcer tables and barricades per PPV match)

    You mean the guy who broke the ring, two tables to flip over the third and threw someone through the cage isn't a spot monkey?


    I don't think that Strowman has been around for enough matches to call him a spot monkey. He's certainly on the road to becoming one. But for example, Reigns and Rollins made a career out of putting people through tables literally every week. Lesnar is known doing crazy s*** like the Shooting Star at WM. He's obviously a spot monkey. 

    Point is, if Strowman is still doing the same s*** in a year, or starts pulling out Shooting Stars next week, I'll call him a spot monkey.
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