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- After having some time to let it sink in, I think WM 34 was a pretty good WM
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We got 3 really good matches in the mixed tag, IC triple threat, and Charlotte/Asuka. Unfortunately AJ/Nakamura not quite living up to the hype, and the disaster of a main event really brought the show down a bit. But the show had more good than bad IMO. Even the other matches that weren’t great still had some good moments involved. Could the show have been a lot better? Absolutely. Was it an awful show or “worst Wrestlemania ever” like some people have been claiming? Not even close. It was still better than 32 and 33 and didn’t feel like it dragged on like those did. The worst thing you can really say about this show IMO is it was a bit underwhelming and mostly forgettable, outside of a few things. Overall this WM probably falls somewhere in the middle when compared to the all time best and worst WM’s.
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That was some historically bad booking. Like, we'll be talking about Charlotte beating Asuka years from now the same way we talk about Triple H beating Booker T. Jinder, that little kid winning the tag titles, the baffling Roman/Brock match... woof.
We got three and a half good matches out of seven HOURS of wrestling. I agree that it wasn't the "worst of all time", but I certainly wouldn't say it was even "pretty good". IMO, anyway.
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curtland posted...
That was some historically bad booking. Like, we'll be talking about Charlotte beating Asuka years from now the same way we talk about Triple H beating Booker T. Jinder, that little kid winning the tag titles, the baffling Roman/Brock match... woof. Yeah, this works pretty well
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Not great.
And Everyone only talks about HHH/Booker due to the thinly veiled racist angle.
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Hardcore_Adult posted...
Not great. If by thinly veiled you mean right in yout face then yes i agree
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WM34 had some good matches but overall was ruined by Charlotte and Brock winning
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Letron_James posted...
Hardcore_Adult posted...Not great. "People like you don't win world championships." I mean, you can't get more blatant than that. The IC match was great. Charlotte vs Asuka was really really good. Even if you don't like the finish the match was really good. The Rousey match was way better than it had any right to be. It was great to see Bryan back in the ring. AJ vs Nak was disappointing. Everything else was hot garbage. So all in all, pretty average Mania.
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curtland posted...
That was some historically bad booking. Like, we'll be talking about Charlotte beating Asuka years from now the same way we talk about Triple H beating Booker T. Jinder, that little kid winning the tag titles, the baffling Roman/Brock match... woof. Comparing Charlotte ending the streak to HHH going over a man who he racially abused. Yikes.
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I should have bolded THINLY.
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BaronNugget posted...
curtland posted...That was some historically bad booking. Like, we'll be talking about Charlotte beating Asuka years from now the same way we talk about Triple H beating Booker T. Jinder, that little kid winning the tag titles, the baffling Roman/Brock match... woof. I stand by it. In fact, I'm not so sure there wasn't some racial motivation in Vince's booking for Charlotte/Asuka. That aside, the booking was just as bafflingly stupid.
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Jaded_Dragon posted...
Letron_James posted...Hardcore_Adult posted...show hidden quote(s) I still say Asuka/Charlotte was match of the night. Fantastic match with a terrible finish. Even if Charlotte had to go over, that was a shitty way to do it.
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I'd like to see her milk the "ASUKA HAS NOT BEEN PINNED YET!" like Kurt did when Tazz choked him out and King came out with that defence "At least he hasn't been pinned yet".
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No one like the Bryan match? Even if it was just to see Bryan go full tilt for a short time, it was great stuff.
Did anyone expect the Brock/Roman match to be great? Their last WM match was pretty good. But considering the participants, you're not getting a retreat nor a great match. The main event for me was an entertaining car crash of a mess. And Roman didn't win, so I'm happy lol.
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TC admitted that he had to play mental gymnastics to convince himself that it was a good WrestleMania.
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finn-the-human posted...
TC admitted that he had to play mental gymnastics to convince himself that it was a good WrestleMania. Umm no? I’ve just had time to consider what were the good things and bad things about it. |
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It wasn't a good Wrestlemania
It wasn't a bad wrestlemania It was an average wrestlemania
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I had low expectations for Cena/Taker after Taker’s hip surgery. I think we all had too high expectations for AJ/Nakamaru.
Otherwise the show was great. The women’s matches even weren’t horrible.
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it was a meh Wrestlemania, that's how I personally call it not awful, not great.
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@humptyrump posted...
WM34 had some good matches but overall was ruined by Charlotte and Brock winning Brock winning is a deathnail by itself...but what about Charlotte winning by itself was bad? The issue with the Charlotte/Asuka match was it needed another few minutes to properly conclude...with the end just happening too fast.
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Charlotte didn't deserve or need to end the streak
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humptyrump posted...
Charlotte didn't deserve or need to end the streak The way I see it, both the streak and Charlotte's title reign needed to end. We got one of these...and the other happened on the Smackdown after Raw. It would have been better in my opinion if Asuka beat Charlotte and then Carmella successfully cashed in (after Charlotte gives her a post-match beatdown), but...I'm satisfied with the result. And for what it is worth, anyone beating a notable streak usually feels undeserved. Brock beating Taker at Mania is case in point. Anyway, in regards to Asuka's streak, the sooner it was broken...the better...especially when too much of it was an NXT holdover. Now Asuka will have more flexibility in her storylines going forward...
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Asuka will probably get 50/50 booking from now on just like most people on the roster
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humptyrump posted...
Asuka will probably get 50/50 booking from now on just like most people on the roster I hope not...but I'm not putting anything past WWE after the WM34 Reigns/Lesnar fiasco.
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curtland posted...
Charlotte beating Asuka years from now the same way we talk about Triple H beating Booke No we won't because a) the right person won b) Asuka can still go to be a credible champion of her division. c) Charlotte isn't sleeping with boss's daughter d) Asuka dint come from a failed company get treated like a joke included burried in supermarket and finally get back to main event only have it taken by a guy who burried everyone he could. Asuka loosing to Charlotte is at Alberto Del Rio loosing to edge or at the very best edge loosing to Jericho.
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For me it lacked any real memorable moments. I honestly don't remember a single "holy shit" or "this is awesome" chant from the crowd the entire night.
Daniel Bryans return was pretty much the only time it actually felt like a Wrestlemania rather than one of the lesser PPVs. Even Undertakers return was hugely underwhelming, even if he wasn't up for a decent match they could have given him a more epic entrance on par with WM20 instead of all that faffing around with Elias Ronda seemed to get a decent reaction but personally I'm still not convinced by her. She just seems so devoid of any in-ring personality.
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ssjmole posted...
curtland posted...Charlotte beating Asuka years from now the same way we talk about Triple H beating Booke I don't think you're putting enough stock in Asuka going in to that match with LITERALLY the longest undefeated streak in the history of the company. And Booker totally still could have gone on to be a credible champion if they wanted to bother trying. They didn't.
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curtland posted...
ssjmole posted...curtland posted...show hidden quote(s) A part of the problem was that a large amount of it was an NXT holdover so most people didn't see a good portion of it and thus weren't invested in it...and the streak created a stranglehold on booking (Miz/Asuka was immediately a lock for winning the Mixed Tag because of it...). It needed to end. If people end up turning on Charlotte over beating Asuka's streak (they won't, but...), it is just more ammunition to turn her heel, since Charlotte is boring as a face.
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Charged151 posted...
curtland posted...ssjmole posted...show hidden quote(s) Hell, I don't even have a problem with Charlotte winning. But as other people have said, having face Charlotte lock in her hold after not working Asuka's leg AT ALL during the match, and having done so when even the announcers said it wasn't even locked in completely because of Charlotte's hurt arm, the historically unbeatable popular face Asuka tap within SECONDS of having it applied. That is terrible booking. Have Asuka win that match. It would not have hurt Charlotte a BIT. Have Iconic Duo beat the crap out of Asuka on Smackdown and Carmella pins Asuka for her first loss THEN. That creates nuclear heat for the HEEL, Carmella, instead of the cheers she DID get because of said crap Wrestlemania booking. And the streak is still over.
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curtland posted...
ssjmole posted...curtland posted...show hidden quote(s) Goldberg felt longer. Undertakers wm streak definitely was. Andres fictional one .... The problem was she was just that a streak nothing else. Now we can care about her as a character. I'm waaaay more interested in her now's lost as I can get invested. Plus a lot of hers was nxt. That's developmental who cares? Booker absolutely could have. I also guarantee if he had gone one to hold world title again or WWE title that the hhh one wouldn't be as talked about. It's talked about as much as it is BECAUSE booker went no where after it. It's the moment everything was taken from him.
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curtland posted...
Charged151 posted...curtland posted...show hidden quote(s) I did mention earlier that the match could have used a few more minutes to close properly.
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I think next mania they should let the smackdown guys Main go on last. The crowd will probably shit on Roman less if that happened
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I agree Asukas streak needed to end, it really is a dead end for booking especially with the amount of content that gets produced every week.
Losing via tap-out, I don't think I would have written it that way. She's shown that the streak meant a lot to her, and she literally gave it up. Really weird. Had the match been a tad longer and a lot more focus on the leg - maybe... But the ending felt fairly anticlimactic. Still, a great match and the right person won imo
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Charlotte losing to Asuka wouldn't have hurt her. Asuka losing (especially via submission) hurt her a lot and was just done to #MakeCharlotteLookStrong
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humptyrump posted...
Charlotte losing to Asuka wouldn't have hurt her. Asuka losing (especially via submission) hurt her a lot and was just done to #MakeCharlotteLookStrong To be fed to Ronda at the next Mania, you whiny shit stirrer. |
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JimPean posted...
humptyrump posted...Charlotte losing to Asuka wouldn't have hurt her. Asuka losing (especially via submission) hurt her a lot and was just done to #MakeCharlotteLookStrong They didn't need to have Charlotte end the streak to do that match |
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humptyrump posted...
JimPean posted...humptyrump posted...show hidden quote(s) Of course they did. If you don't think that's going to be an accolade they'll meme every chance they can on their build to the match, you really should stop discussing wrestling on this board and return to shitposting. |
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JimPean posted...
humptyrump posted...JimPean posted...show hidden quote(s) Asuka vs Ronda in a streak vs streak match would have been bigger and better. |
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humptyrump posted...
JimPean posted...humptyrump posted...show hidden quote(s) Charlotte Vs Ronda will be a better fued if it happens as Charlotte is great at promos and her arrogant queen gimmick is perfect to go against Ronda.
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Charlotte isn't great at promos. She speaks perfect english but is still only slightly better than Asuka.
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curtland posted...
BaronNugget posted...curtland posted...show hidden quote(s) Outside of time no it wasn't, there's only a few people that were even mad about it happening that way. Hardly any wrestling fan likes the way HHH vs Booker fued went. You act like asuka won't win the belt on main roster.
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humptyrump posted...
JimPean posted...humptyrump posted...show hidden quote(s) Because of your personal bias? Alright. Public opinion shows a complete disconnect from Asuka once the bell rings. Streak means nothing if all you hear are apathetic cheers occasionally. |
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humptyrump posted...
Charlotte isn't great at promos. She speaks perfect english but is still only slightly better than Asuka. I enjoy her promos. More than most wrestlers male or female. Not all but most
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JimPean posted...
humptyrump posted...JimPean posted...show hidden quote(s) Merch sales show a complete disconnect from Charlotte. |
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Asuka came off slightly weak at the end.
Charlotte was the one who had been worked on, forcing her to look strong with the one armed figure eight. Asuka had not been worked on and tapped in relatively quick fashion considering past efforts and the stage she was on. Also putting the match on second made it seem like less of a big deal. Swap the women's title matches around. Have Flair destroy Asukas legs and have her last another 15 seconds. That would have made this a near classic. And I REALLY wanted Asuka to go over as well. Hey ho. This was a great mania btw. The unpredictability trumped the weird/bad booking.
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humptyrump posted...
JimPean posted...humptyrump posted...show hidden quote(s) Are you referencing merch sale numbers that pop up randomly on websites with sketchy reporting histories? Yikes. That's desperate, my man. But sure, I'll roll with it. You managed to leave out the fact only 1 woman cracked that top 10 list, which was Sasha. Merch sales show a complete disconnect from the entire division then. But at least they're awake for Charlotte matches. Stop trying to discuss wrestling. Your role here is shitposting. I'm sure someone on NXT right now is looking like a snack. Go compare it to Cheetos or Funyuns. |
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- After having some time to let it sink in, I think WM 34 was a pretty good WM
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