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American, Asian and European audiences cheer/boo for who they genuinely like/dislike.
Other audiences are stuck in that 70s/80s wrestling fan's mentality of cheering for the good guy and booing the bad guy lol I'm surprised they didn't go to India again. :/
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Yeah, better to take the belt off the guy who’s entertaining, just ‘cause he isn’t there all the time, and give it to the boring as hell who will be there to bore the shit out of you every week bbygurl BITCH! <—CAPTIAL LETTERS ‘CAUSE I SAID A BAD WORD OMG! I AM A BADASS!
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Yeah, better to take the belt off the guy who’s entertaining, just ‘cause he isn’t there all the time, and give it to the boring as hell who will be there to bore the shit out of you every week bbygurl BITCH! <—CAPTIAL LETTERS ‘CAUSE I SAID A BAD WORD OMG! I AM A BADASS! Brock hasn’t been entertaining in a long time.
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KnucklesIX posted...
whitaker6490 posted...Yeah, better to take the belt off the guy who’s entertaining, just ‘cause he isn’t there all the time, and give it to the boring as hell who will be there to bore the shit out of you every week bbygurl BITCH! <—CAPTIAL LETTERS ‘CAUSE I SAID A BAD WORD OMG! I AM A BADASS! His matches with AJ Styles, Goldberg, and Samoa Joe within the last year were all great. As was his fatal 4-way match at SummerSlam. It’s he and Roman interacting one-on-one that sucks... because Roman sucks.
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Agnostic420 posted...
I love Lesnar but he shouldn’t have the title. It devalues RAW pretty badly. I’d rather Reigns have it and at least defend it at every ppv. Precisely. If you have a schedule like Brock does, you shouldn't be anywhere near any title, especially a World title. The Divas Championship feels more prestigious than the Universal title at this point.
If you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple.
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So did they sacrifice WrestleMania just to hype up this Biggest Rumble Ever event? Hopefully we actually get Nakamura and Styles for real this time.
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KnucklesIX posted...
whitaker6490 posted...Yeah, better to take the belt off the guy who’s entertaining, just ‘cause he isn’t there all the time, and give it to the boring as hell who will be there to bore the shit out of you every week bbygurl BITCH! <—CAPTIAL LETTERS ‘CAUSE I SAID A BAD WORD OMG! I AM A BADASS! That's simply not true
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Arizona_Joe posted...
So did they sacrifice WrestleMania just to hype up this Biggest Rumble Ever event? Hopefully we actually get Nakamura and Styles for real this time. Sounds like it, yeah. They wanna make the event big. Guess Vince decided to end the title's vacation a few weeks later than it was supposed to end.
If you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple.
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KnucklesIX posted...Except it is.whitaker6490 posted...show hidden quote(s)
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Dynedux posted...KnucklesIX posted...Except it is.show hidden quote(s) Nope, sorry
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Agnostic420 posted...
I love Lesnar but he shouldn’t have the title. It devalues RAW pretty badly. I’d rather Reigns have it and at least defend it at every ppv. Absolutely disagree. Belt is relevant and raw is a must see when Brock is there
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Dynedux posted...KnucklesIX posted...Except it is.show hidden quote(s) Except it's not
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I thought the current rumor was for Lashley and Brock to feud? I don’t think Reigns is taking it...
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I love Lesnar but he shouldn’t have the title. It devalues RAW pretty badly. I’d rather Reigns have it and at least defend it at every ppv. This logic is stupid. The champion has literally never, ever looked stronger than now.
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A strong champion devalues the belt?
Whats a strong world champion? A guy who wrestles every week for no reason? People wrestle to reach the champion, the champion does not need to wrestle weekly, hes already at the top. I'd love each champion to get this treatment, it makes these guys feel like something. AJ is just a guy, I see him wrestle every week, hes no different than lolph or Corbin. Brock is a big deal, you have to build up to fighting him. People are clinging to the flimsy defense of him not being on every show. My new name for him is Demi-Fiend. |
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kylekillgannon posted...
Agnostic420 posted...I love Lesnar but he shouldn’t have the title. It devalues RAW pretty badly. I’d rather Reigns have it and at least defend it at every ppv. No! Don't you want the champion to be on the show every week and defend the belt every week and have the same DQ finish every week and have the same match every week and have wins by count out every week?!?
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He won't win.
I see belt going to Lashley and then a triple threat feud with Joe and Reigns arguing over who sucks less while Lashley keeps belt warm. There HAS to be a reason Lashley is on main card right now, and it ain't midcarding.
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MasterFoxCheif3 posted...
kylekillgannon posted...Agnostic420 posted...show hidden quote(s) Literally the logic of many idiots on this board
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GPRailroad posted...Apology accepted.Dynedux posted...show hidden quote(s)Except it is. MasterFoxCheif3 posted... Except it's notBut it is.
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Agnostic420 posted...
When has a champ never usually defended his belt at every ppv? Don’t be so fucking narrow minded just because Brock is doing it now that this was the norm years prior. It wasn’t. The thing is it's a breath of fresh air and I don't know if I'm ready for Raw to go back to a point where we see the Universal Champion every week, especially if SmackDown already has that.
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When has a champ never usually defended his belt at every ppv? Don’t be so fucking narrow minded just because Brock is doing it now that this was the norm years prior. It wasn’t.Yeah, it was the norm 30+ years ago. Times have changed.
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Agnostic420 posted...
I love Lesnar but he shouldn’t have the title. It devalues RAW pretty badly. I’d rather Reigns have it and at least defend it at every ppv. I disagree. When Brock shows up it feels like a big fight. Mike Tyson in his prime kinda feel. Roman on the hand feels forced.
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So apparently, Roman was going to win at Mania but Vince changed the result last minute because he didn't like the crowd's reaction to Reigns, which may explain that horrible, confused match. Vince's solution? Give it to him in Saudi, because that would somehow make audiences in the US warm up to him when he comes back.
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Brock not being there isn't the problem IMO. Him having no overarching storyline though...that sucks. It turns what should be exciting things into boring things. There's only so long Brock can dominate people that I want to beat him before he's just boring to me. He's reached that threshold already and did back when he beat Braun tbh.
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Agnostic420 posted...
When has a champ never usually defended his belt at every ppv? Don’t be so fucking narrow minded just because Brock is doing it now that this was the norm years prior. It wasn’t. Its defended at all the major ppvs which is all that is needed. Brock made the belt mean something after it was a joke
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KingCrabCake posted...
Agnostic420 posted...When has a champ never usually defended his belt at every ppv? Don’t be so fucking narrow minded just because Brock is doing it now that this was the norm years prior. It wasn’t. The belt means NOTHING. Once again, people think the belt disappearing for months really makes it valuable. I agree that the belt SHOULDN'T be defended every PPV. However being absent and basically unmentioned for months at a time doesn't make a title prestigious. Instead it does the opposite, make it 100% irrelevant.
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Saitsuofleaves posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Agnostic420 posted...show hidden quote(s) I'm not pinning all of that entirely on Brock. When Brock is gone, WWE does fuck all to establish the importance of the Universal Championship. As you said, when Brock is gone, the Universal belt vanishes too and that's definitely hurting more than helping, but I'm not going to go as far as saying it makes it irrelevant.
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The_Dragon_Died posted...Yeah that's what I'm thinking, too. April 27 needs to come quickly. While his shtick is tired, it's no more tired than Brock at this point.
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MasterFoxCheif3 posted...
kylekillgannon posted...Agnostic420 posted...show hidden quote(s) Yeah I know! Screw having a champion who rarely appears and when he does it's a god damn spectacle. Screw having a champion who is so overly strong he's actually capable of defending his belt and winning clean! WE NEED MORE KEVIN OWENS TYPE CHAMPIONS, DAMMIT!
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Agnostic420 posted...When has a champ never usually defended his belt at every ppv? Don’t be so fucking narrow minded just because Brock is doing it now that this was the norm years prior. It wasn’t. This. I like AJ, but I could give a damn that he's there every week
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Janpei posted...
Saitsuofleaves posted...KingCrabCake posted...show hidden quote(s) Well of course the blame isn't 100% on Brock since WWE obviously has to sign off on a lot of things and dedicate themselves to not bringing it up. But as they completely screw the pooch whenever he does hold the belt, there's only so much that can be done.
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Jigglybuff posted...MasterFoxCheif3 posted...show hidden quote(s) Not brocks fault. He was capable of wrestling good matches before the whole "Suplex City, bitch!" Line when he faced Roman 2 years ago took off. Fans loved it, STILL love it, so why should he have to do anything else because the very few don't like it. Besides his matches with Aj, joe and braun were awesome wasn't the same thing he did every other time he shows up
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MasterFoxCheif3 posted...kylekillgannon posted...show hidden quote(s) Lesnar gets probably the worst entrance reaction of any champion on the roster. Most of his matches are good, undoubtedly. But it’s Joe, Styles, fatal four way spot fest which is still great. But having a champion show up once every 3 months is dumb. And I didn’t know Lesnar held the title for 28-29 years. |
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Agnostic420 posted...
I love Lesnar but he shouldn’t have the title. It devalues RAW pretty badly. I’d rather Reigns have it and at least defend it at every ppv. Some of Lesnars matches are 10/10, he vs AJ Styles was fun as hell. Yes his match with Roman was boring and lame as hell, these two just don‘t habe great chemistry in the ring. Roman just isn‘t very entertaining in the ring, even Cenas matches are far far more fun to watch. |
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Saitsuofleaves posted...
KingCrabCake posted...Agnostic420 posted...show hidden quote(s) The belt means more with Brock holding it than anyone else.
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Lesnar gets probably the worst entrance reaction of any champion on the roster thats a pure lie |
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Saitsuofleaves posted...KingCrabCake posted...show hidden quote(s) The belt means even less than this meaningless statement
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ShadowRaiden00 posted...Agnostic420 posted...
Lesnar gets probably the worst entrance reaction of any champion on the roster
thats a pure lie
I’m speaking just the pop from the entrance alone when his music hits. Most of the time they’re pretty silent. In the ring, much different. The entrance pop alone.. pretty mediocre.ShadowRaiden00 posted...A strong champion devalues the belt?
Whats a strong world champion? A guy who wrestles every week for no reason? People wrestle to reach the champion, the champion does not need to wrestle weekly, hes already at the top. I'd love each champion to get this treatment, it makes these guys feel like something.
AJ is just a guy, I see him wrestle every week, hes no different than lolph or Corbin.
Brock is a big deal, you have to build up to fighting him.
People are clinging to the flimsy defense of him not being on every show.
My new name for him is Demi-Fiend.
So one of the single best wrestlers of our generation is just a guy, but Mr. I spam two moves is a big deal. Lol, k then.The Smiling Bandit (Strikes Again! Ha Ha Ha!)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisSusumurin posted...I never understood why people think overexposure is good for titles. Defending them every PPV leads to hot potato champions and rinse and repeat matches. THAT devalues belts worse than anything.
I like Brock’s more MMA like defense schedule or a handful of times per year. Makes each title bout feel special.
So the belts been devalued for 29 years prior to Lesnar? C’mon now.Agnostic420 posted...So the belts been devalued for 29 years prior to Lesnar? C’mon now
Was the value of the KO reign meteoric? No.
Having the champ there giving god awful 20 kinute speeches weekly doesn't help the title.
Having the champ be absent mostly doesn't necessarily hurt it either.
Grow a fucking brain people.CELLS INTERLINKED WITHIN CELLS:
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When has a champ never usually defended his belt at every ppv? Don’t be so fucking narrow minded just because Brock is doing it now that this was the norm years prior. It wasn’t.
Yeah, it was the norm 30+ years ago. Times have changed.
This is true, secondary titles or number one contender matches frequently headlined shows over the champion, which would be saved to sell out the big arenas.NZXT Stormforce 240:16GB DDR4 RAM:Core i5 6600k: GTX 1060 6 GB: 2TB SSHD:2TB HDD:128 GB SSD:AS ROCK Z170 EXTREME 4; CORSAIR 750W: THERMALTAKE 3.0 LIQUID COOLINGThe anger here should be focused on Vince.
Brock himself is a great champion, its not his fault nobody is using this extra time to build anyone, its not his fault wwe chooses to not mention the belt.
I guess people prefer Heel Seth from 3 years ago, a total vagina who can't do anything on his own, or AJ as white bread generic face champion constantly fighting everybody cause hes not special.
AJ shows more that the belts a prop than Brock. Whats special about AJ?
What does he the person gain as champion? He still fights the whole roster, he still has to wrestle pointless matches weekly cause hes not special.
People like to say Miz is a great IC champion, hes established as a total joke who can't win solo, but I guess cause he cuts good promos its ok that he loses every week, very credible.
The Usos were a perfect example of how it can be done for the lesser belts, they spent a few weeks appearing to cut promos but not wrestling, and they were great champions, champions like Roode, AJ and Bar are just people with props.
Brock is a murdering monster whos nearly unbeatable, when anybody steps to him they know theres a high chance of death. The rare times Brock goes down it requires near murder or ambushes. Brock is an anomaly that deserves special treatment but champions in general deserves superior relevance to everyone else.Agnostic420 posted...And I hate reigns, but his matches are far better than cenas anymore. The only good Cena match he’s had in probably 2 years were against Styles.
Cena barely has matches anymore. It's not a fair comparison since he's been wrestling far longer than Reigns but Cena has far more good matches than Reigns has had and probably will have.1984: Ironically the GOAT year.whitaker6490 posted...KnucklesIX posted...
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Brock hasn’t been entertaining in a long time.
His matches with AJ Styles, Goldberg, and Samoa Joe within the last year were all great. As was his fatal 4-way match at SummerSlam. It’s he and Roman interacting one-on-one that sucks... because Roman sucks.
Except the Joe match wasn't good either.
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Miz is a good Champion for a heel, as he is competitive and finds ways to win important matches and then goes on to sing his own praises. He does a great job. The issue is, there's no big score to settle for someone getting their moment from him. Instead, people like Rollins ir Reigns come down from on high and don't really take anything from it because this wasn't a big moment for them.CELLS INTERLINKED WITHIN CELLS:
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Take your own advice.So the belts been devalued for 29 years prior to Lesnar? C’mon now
Was the value of the KO reign meteoric? No.
Having the champ there giving god awful 20 kinute speeches weekly doesn't help the title.
Having the champ be absent mostly doesn't necessarily hurt it either.
Grow a fucking brain people.
You're taking the worst examples of how to book a modern day champion and using those few examples as if to say every modern day champ has been booked that way in an attempt to defend this absentee champion BS with Brock.
Brock's booking and his being champion has benefited NOBODY but him and to a lesser extent, the WWE in the short term. Even then that hasn't done anything to improve the product.1984: Ironically the GOAT year.I hope Brock is champ forever just so The_dragon_died can continue his whiny nerd ragehttp://www.last.fm/user/snoochtonooch
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The belt means NOTHING.
Once again, people think the belt disappearing for months really makes it valuable.
I agree that the belt SHOULDN'T be defended every PPV. However being absent and basically unmentioned for months at a time doesn't make a title prestigious. Instead it does the opposite, make it 100% irrelevant.
I'm not pinning all of that entirely on Brock. When Brock is gone, WWE does fuck all to establish the importance of the Universal Championship. As you said, when Brock is gone, the Universal belt vanishes too and that's definitely hurting more than helping, but I'm not going to go as far as saying it makes it irrelevant.
The only time they successfully made the belt feel like a big deal was the #1 contender's match at Extreme Rules(?).
Brock doesn't need to show up every week, but it wouldnt hurt at all if Paul Heyman came around every once in a while to hype up his client and carry the title around a little bit.{}Giants{}Knicks{}Isles{}Mets{}Agnostic420 posted...Susumurin posted...
I never understood why people think overexposure is good for titles. Defending them every PPV leads to hot potato champions and rinse and repeat matches. THAT devalues belts worse than anything.
I like Brock’s more MMA like defense schedule or a handful of times per year. Makes each title bout feel special.
So the belts been devalued for 29 years prior to Lesnar? C’mon now.
So the belt was at its highest back during the Evolution days when we would get 25 minute HHH promos at the beginning of raw every god damn week?3DS FC: 3179-7229-7079
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So the belts been devalued for 29 years prior to Lesnar? C’mon now.
So the belt was at its highest back during the Evolution days when we would get 25 minute HHH promos at the beginning of raw every god damn week?
These guys don’t like characters or stories or wrestling
They only want the shiny belt to be on tv. The belt is their star they mark out for.
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So the belt was at its highest back during the Evolution days when we would get 25 minute HHH promos at the beginning of raw every god damn week?
These guys don’t like characters or stories or wrestling
They only want the shiny belt to be on tv. The belt is their star they mark out for.
It’s sad
So you mean his weekly promos about how great he was because he had the belt, weren't good story telling...
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official protector of Cuddles the kitten of the rock boardAgnostic420 posted...I’m speaking just the pop from the entrance alone when his music hits. Most of the time they’re pretty silent.
this is still a lie and I can point to weaker pops for AJLupin the 4th posted...ShadowRaiden00 posted...
A strong champion devalues the belt?
Whats a strong world champion? A guy who wrestles every week for no reason? People wrestle to reach the champion, the champion does not need to wrestle weekly, hes already at the top. I'd love each champion to get this treatment, it makes these guys feel like something.
AJ is just a guy, I see him wrestle every week, hes no different than lolph or Corbin.
Brock is a big deal, you have to build up to fighting him.
People are clinging to the flimsy defense of him not being on every show.
My new name for him is Demi-Fiend.
So one of the single best wrestlers of our generation is just a guy, but Mr. I spam two moves is a big deal. Lol, k then.
that answer is hilarious
you are using move count to judge whos better when the biggest name in the business is Hulk HoganAgnostic420 posted...Susumurin posted...
I never understood why people think overexposure is good for titles. Defending them every PPV leads to hot potato champions and rinse and repeat matches. THAT devalues belts worse than anything.
I like Brock’s more MMA like defense schedule or a handful of times per year. Makes each title bout feel special.
So the belts been devalued for 29 years prior to Lesnar? C’mon now.
trying too hard
However we can go through reigns filled with title matches that were treated as pure filler, we can go back to the 90s were there are 35 reigns as wwe champion within a 5 year span (in comparison, ROH was 28 reigns in a 15 year span).
So while not a total joke, mainly do to better characters. The belts were truly props.BudDupree48 posted...Jigglybuff posted...
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Yeah I know! Screw having a champion who rarely appears and when he does it's a god damn spectacle.
Screw having a champion who is so overly strong he's actually capable of defending his belt and winning clean! WE NEED MORE KEVIN OWENS TYPE CHAMPIONS, DAMMIT!
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This shit again, it's like blaming cena for the 5 moves of doom. Lots of people only have like 5 moves. You know damn well Brock can do more, but why should he when the crowds are dumbasses who chant suplex city?I once boxed my ferret and lost
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=32dKkBw8DisThe_Dragon_Died posted...Just for the record I don't blame Brock for his booking. I blame Vince. Never had a problem with Brock. Just his booking since SummerSlam '14.
This isn't about Brock but you act like taking it off him will make the belt worthwhile or something. K.O reign is hated far more than Brocks and he was there every week. So was jinder title reign, both devalued The belt because hardly anyone cared they had it.
The next champ should do a similar title booking like Brock and not defend it every ppv. It has always been dumb that a champ shows up or defends his belt on regular shows. Save that shit for SDL, not raw.I once boxed my ferret and lost
San Antonio Spurs ForeverFanThe_Dragon_Died posted...Just for the record I don't blame Brock for his booking. I blame Vince. Never had a problem with Brock. Just his booking since SummerSlam '14.
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Just for the record I don't blame Brock for his booking. I blame Vince. Never had a problem with Brock. Just his booking since SummerSlam '14.
This isn't about Brock but you act like taking it off him will make the belt worthwhile or something. K.O reign is hated far more than Brocks and he was there every week. So was jinder title reign, both devalued The belt because hardly anyone cared they had it.
The next champ should do a similar title booking like Brock and not defend it every ppv. It has always been dumb that a champ shows up or defends his belt on regular shows. Save that shit for SDL, not raw.
I'd personally take a reign like Owens' reign over an absent Champion as mediocre as his reign was. We'll just have to agree to disagree. To me, the Champ not being there for months at a time makes the title mean meaningless and unimportant. You think otherwise, which is fine. Agree to disagree.If you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple.
Why do you continue to watch something that you don't like weekly? I don't get it.kylekillgannon posted...GPRailroad posted...
Lol I made you mad.You're taking the worst examples of how to book a modern day champion and using those few examples as if to say every modern day champ has been booked that way in an attempt to defend this absentee champion BS with Brock.
Then explain who CM Punk helped, bitch.
And what does Punk have to do with this? Mentioning him doesn't negate anything I said about Brock but being the blind Lesnar guzzling fanboy you are, you can't see past your own ignorance and intolerance of those who don't agree with you and instead throw out non-sequiturs in some lame attempt to prove some hollow attempt of an actual point. You did that in your last post and you did it again in this one.
Oh yeah, and "bitch"? Lol
View must be real nice from that glass house of yours.1984: Ironically the GOAT year.GPRailroad posted...Dynedux posted...
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Nope, sorry
MasterFoxCheif3 posted...Except it's not
But it is.
Thousands upon thousands upon thousands of fans who cheer for Brock disagree.
Who's wrong? All of those people? Or you?
Yeah, it's you. Not sure if you would have gotten that on your own.Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244Brock was definitely boo’d at mania. Fans are bipolar. They boo Reigns at the sound of his music but then assist him in the “Oooooaaaaaahhhh” before the spear.
Same with Brock. He was boo’d then magically cheered when he won.
Wrestling fans are a fickle bunchYou don't have to sell drugs to live like you sell drugsChubrock812 posted...Brock was definitely boo’d at mania. Fans are bipolar. They boo Reigns at the sound of his music but then assist him in the “Oooooaaaaaahhhh” before the spear.
Same with Brock. He was boo’d then magically cheered when he won.
Wrestling fans are a fickle bunch
And on average Brock is almost always unanimously cheered. And he's the super heel.aNoctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244Chubrock812 posted...Brock was definitely boo’d at mania. Fans are bipolar. They boo Reigns at the sound of his music but then assist him in the “Oooooaaaaaahhhh” before the spear.
Same with Brock. He was boo’d then magically cheered when he won.
Wrestling fans are a fickle bunch
Much like they chant "John Cena sucks" during his entrance and then chanting "This is awesome!" ten minutes later. :-PIf you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple.
Why do you continue to watch something that you don't like weekly? I don't get it.Dynedux posted...Thousands upon thousands upon thousands of fans who cheer for Brock disagree.
So whatever the majority likes you like too just because the majority likes it?
Who's wrong? All of those people? Or you?
Yeah, it's you. Not sure if you would have gotten that on your own.
Gotcha.1984: Ironically the GOAT year.GPRailroad posted...Dynedux posted...
Thousands upon thousands upon thousands of fans who cheer for Brock disagree.
So whatever the majority supports you support just because the majority supports it?
Who's wrong? All of those people? Or you?
Yeah, it's you. Not sure if you would have gotten that on your own.
Gotcha.
I wouldn't bother getting into it with Dyn. I've got him tagged as "Immature Lesnar mark" because that's exactly what he is. If you don't offer praise/worship for Lesnar, then you're dumb in his eyes.If you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple.
Why do you continue to watch something that you don't like weekly? I don't get it.GPRailroad posted...Dynedux posted...
Thousands upon thousands upon thousands of fans who cheer for Brock disagree.
So whatever the majority likes you like too just because the majority likes it?
Who's wrong? All of those people? Or you?
Yeah, it's you. Not sure if you would have gotten that on your own.
Gotcha.
Wow, that's a twist in logic. I know you don't like being wrong But you didn't have to bring out the fallacies lmaoNoctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244The_Dragon_Died posted...GPRailroad posted...
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So whatever the majority supports you support just because the majority supports it?
Gotcha.
I wouldn't bother getting into it with Dyn. I've got him tagged as "Immature Lesnar mark" because that's exactly what he is. If you don't offer praise/worship for Lesnar, then you're dumb in his eyes.
See here's a perfect example;
Dragon Cried would always say "Lesnar sucks" , "he's not over", "Lesnar isn't a draw", "he's boring" and I repeatedly made a fool out of him by pointing out Lesnar doesn't suck, he is over, he is a draw, and he isn't boring. Then he ignored me because, as the name suggests, The Dragon Cried lol.
Now if you notice in his posts he's changed his time a bit. Now he admits people love Lesnar but he doesnt etc. No more broad, incorrect generalizations.
Don't be like Dragon Cried - use your brain.Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244Dynedux posted...GPRailroad posted...
Explain how without being a raving, nonsensical Lesnar apologist.Dynedux posted...
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So whatever the majority likes you like too just because the majority likes it?
Gotcha.
Wow, that's a twist in logic. I know you don't like being wrong But you didn't have to bring out the fallacies lmao1984: Ironically the GOAT year.whitaker6490 posted...KnucklesIX posted...
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Brock hasn’t been entertaining in a long time.
His matches with AJ Styles, Goldberg, and Samoa Joe within the last year were all great. As was his fatal 4-way match at SummerSlam. It’s he and Roman interacting one-on-one that sucks... because Roman sucks.
Sorry dude, but his match with Goldberg wasn't even five minutes... It was way too short to be considered even halfway decent. It was better than their WW20 match, but...yeah.
For what it is worth though, you can add his WM31 match with Reigns to the list. That was actually good unlike the recent WM34 fiasco.I'm...the...official...master...of...ellipses...GPRailroad posted...Dynedux posted...
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Explain how without being a raving, nonsensical Lesnar apologist.show hidden quote(s)
Wow, that's a twist in logic. I know you don't like being wrong But you didn't have to bring out the fallacies lmao
No need to apologize for what doesn't need an apology, Jack.
You said Brock isn't entertaining, I said he is, you said he isnt, I pointed out literally thousands upon thousands of people also think he's entertaining, and asked who was more correct that situation? The handful of people that say he isn't entertaining or the literal tens of thousands of people that think he is? Since its entertainment we're talking about - the more people entertained means the more entertaining something is. Which makes you wrong.
So you reply that I must only like <thing> because it's popular to like <thing>. A fallacy.
Are you all caught up now, champ?Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244Dynedux posted...GPRailroad posted...
So what's your point? It doesn't negate anything I said, junior.Dynedux posted...
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Explain how without being a raving, nonsensical Lesnar apologist.
No need to apologize for what doesn't need an apology, Jack.
You said Brock isn't entertaining, I said he is, you said he isnt, I pointed out literally thousands upon thousands of people also think he's entertaining, and asked who was more correct that situation? The handful of people that say he isn't entertaining or the literal tens of thousands of people that think he is? Since its entertainment we're talking about - the more people entertained means the more entertaining something is. Which makes you wrong.
So you reply that I must only like <thing> because it's popular to like <thing>. A fallacy.
Are you all caught up now, champ?1984: Ironically the GOAT year.GPRailroad posted...Dynedux posted...
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So what's your point? It doesn't negate anything I said, junior.show hidden quote(s)
No need to apologize for what doesn't need an apology, Jack.
You said Brock isn't entertaining, I said he is, you said he isnt, I pointed out literally thousands upon thousands of people also think he's entertaining, and asked who was more correct that situation? The handful of people that say he isn't entertaining or the literal tens of thousands of people that think he is? Since its entertainment we're talking about - the more people entertained means the more entertaining something is. Which makes you wrong.
So you reply that I must only like <thing> because it's popular to like <thing>. A fallacy.
Are you all caught up now, champ?
It does. He's entertaining. You can stick your fingers in your ears, scream and yell, and use all the fallacies your sophomoric little brain can muster but at the end of the day - your opinion just isn't that important, brother.Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244Dynedux posted...GPRailroad posted...
And there is the problem with your "logic".Dynedux posted...
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So what's your point? It doesn't negate anything I said, junior.
It does. He's entertaining. You can stick your fingers in your ears, scream and yell, and use all the fallacies your sophomoric little brain can muster but at the end of the day - your opinion just isn't that important, brother.
Lesnar being entertaining is a matter of opinion but you go around talking as though it's a scientific fact and get pissy when someone doesn't share your opinion.
Lesnar is not entertaining and I don't give a damn how many people have his nuts in their mouths, including you. I don't find him entertaining, nothing good has come from his title reign(s) and your arrogant passive-aggressive attitude doesn't change my mind.1984: Ironically the GOAT year.GPRailroad posted...And there is the problem with your "logic".
Lesnar being entertaining is a matter of opinion but you go around talking as though it's a scientific fact and get pissy when someone doesn't share your opinion.
Lesnar is not entertaining and I don't give a damn how many people have his nuts in their mouths, including you. I don't find him entertaining, nothing good has come from his title reign(s) and your arrogant passive-aggressive attitude doesn't change my mind.
" only people with his nuts in his mouth find him entertaining" - is exactly why your opinion is trash and doesn't amount to anything or matter in the slightest. Because it's you who first said he wasn't entertaining as if it were fact, it was you who doubled down on it, and it was you who became increasingly hostile and bitter.
Clearly you just aren't smart enough for this kind of thing. Better luck next time, champ.Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244- Boards
- Pro Wrestling: WWE
- All they did was change Reigns winning at WM.
- Boards
- Pro Wrestling: WWE
- All they did was change Reigns winning at WM.
Dynedux posted...GPRailroad posted...
I simply disagreed with you in the same manner you asserted that Lesnar is entertaining and apparently that was too much for you and here we are.And there is the problem with your "logic".
Lesnar being entertaining is a matter of opinion but you go around talking as though it's a scientific fact and get pissy when someone doesn't share your opinion.
Lesnar is not entertaining and I don't give a damn how many people have his nuts in their mouths, including you. I don't find him entertaining, nothing good has come from his title reign(s) and your arrogant passive-aggressive attitude doesn't change my mind.
" only people with his nuts in his mouth find him entertaining" - is exactly why your opinion is trash and doesn't amount to anything or matter in the slightest. Because it's you who first said he wasn't entertaining as if it were fact, it was you who doubled down on it, and it was you who became increasingly hostile and bitter.
Clearly you just aren't smart enough for this kind of thing. Better luck next time, champ.
What next? You gonna say I'm mentally ill like the other people who don't stroke your idiocy?1984: Ironically the GOAT year.GPRailroad posted...Dynedux posted...
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I simply disagreed with you in the same manner you asserted that Lesnar is entertaining and apparently that was too much for you and here we are.show hidden quote(s)
" only people with his nuts in his mouth find him entertaining" - is exactly why your opinion is trash and doesn't amount to anything or matter in the slightest. Because it's you who first said he wasn't entertaining as if it were fact, it was you who doubled down on it, and it was you who became increasingly hostile and bitter.
Clearly you just aren't smart enough for this kind of thing. Better luck next time, champ.
What next? You gonna say I'm mentally ill like the other people who don't stroke your idiocy?
Actually first you used the 4th grade dismissive mentality, then you asserted that I was a raving nonsensical Lesnar apologist.
Soooo, yeah, pretty bitter there guy.Noctis 906atk, Reberta 869atk,- 813.793.244Dynedux posted...GPRailroad posted...
I call it like I see it.Dynedux posted...
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I simply disagreed with you in the same manner you asserted that Lesnar is entertaining and apparently that was too much for you and here we are.
What next? You gonna say I'm mentally ill like the other people who don't stroke your idiocy?
Actually first you used the 4th grade dismissive mentality, then you asserted that I was a raving nonsensical Lesnar apologist.
Soooo, yeah, pretty bitter there guy.
And I've seen enough of your posts on the subject for me to assert such a thing.
And I wasn't the first but believe what you want too.1984: Ironically the GOAT year.Dynedux posted...Ah, so you are dumb. Gotcha.
Like I said, believe what you want too. I'm not wasting anymore of time with a fool like you.
I mean, if you can't even see that you yourself escalated this you must be pretty uneducated.
I calls em how I see's em, ya hurd1984: Ironically the GOAT year.Brock's not dropping the belt in a match with little build a week before another PPV where they're building up another match for Roman not involving the title.I think a little more middle ground would be better. I don’t think him being there every week is needed but a few more appearances and defenses would be good as well. However they really need to get away from reigns chasing the title. The majority don’t want him to win, Brock has beaten Braun and joe but there’s no reason he can’t go back to them, either of those guys are credible threats to Brock and would be a much better option. If Brock does lose it in Saudi Arabia I think that’s a huge mistake, and things will be even worse with reigns as champ than they would ever be with Brock as champ.GPRailroad posted...Dynedux posted...
Ah, so you are dumb. Gotcha.
Like I said, believe what you want too. I'm not wasting anymore of time with a fool like you.
I mean, if you can't even see that you yourself escalated this you must be pretty uneducated.
I calls em how I see's em, ya hurd
I tried to warn you. :-/If you feed them, they'll continue. It's that simple.
Why do you continue to watch something that you don't like weekly? I don't get it.- Boards
- Pro Wrestling: WWE
- All they did was change Reigns winning at WM.
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