Hornswoggle believes Chris Benoit and his family were murdered by someone else

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Ransom_Stark 3 days ago#1 “Still to this day, I don’t think it happened. I don’t think it happened.” “Someone killed him. There’s too much evidence proving the evidence wrong I feel.” Source: http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/10/19/swoggle-speaks-saying-chris-benoit-family-murdered-someone-else/ Axiom ^^ stickyreportquote

Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#2 Axiom ^^ reportquote

NYb97 3 days ago#3 Lots of people do. If you do the research, its obvious Benoit didn't do it.  Also odd the entire situation was reported on Wikipedia, prior to him actually dying. My theory is Sullivan did it, or had a hand in it. reportquote

KillerKhan420 3 days ago#4 As much as I don't want to believe he is, he did. End of story "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 reportquote

Russo_Face 3 days ago#5 Ransom_Stark posted... There’s too much evidence proving the evidence wrong I feel.” So that evidence is also proven wrong then? Roman Reigns fans found on PWB:18 reportquote

Hulkamaniac418 3 days ago#6 Prove me wrong If Dave kicks the chair and James is the TABLE, is that a bad conflict of interest? -overkillwfo1978 reportquote

PrimusMcVitus 3 days ago#7 hahaha oh lord, what will those wacky & silly little persons say next reportquote

Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#8 Russo_Face posted... Ransom_Stark posted... There’s too much evidence proving the evidence wrong I feel.” So that evidence is also proven wrong then? The inconsistencies in events surrounding the deaths of Benoit and his family are very dubious, so much so that they make the veracity of the original evidence doubtful. Axiom ^^ reportquote

Raven_Cyarm 3 days ago#9 NYb97 posted... Also odd the entire situation was reported on Wikipedia, prior to him actually dying. For a start, that sounds like an urban myth. Is there any actual visible proof of this? And second of all... why would the person who killed Benoit think "Man, I better make sure I edit his Wikipedia page as fast as possible in order to disguise my involvement." Caw CAWWWWWWWW reportquote

NYb97 3 days ago#10 Raven_Cyarm posted... NYb97 posted... Also odd the entire situation was reported on Wikipedia, prior to him actually dying. For a start, that sounds like an urban myth. Is there any actual visible proof of this? And second of all... why would the person who killed Benoit think "Man, I better make sure I edit his Wikipedia page as fast as possible in order to disguise my involvement." An anonymous edit from IP address 69.120.111.23 using the Internet service provider Optimum Online was made at 04:01 UTC on Chris Benoit's Wikipedia article. On a paragraph about an earlier fight: "However, Chris Benoit was replaced… due to personal issues,…", the anonymous editor added " stemming from the death of his wife Nancy." The edit was reversed just under one hour later with the comment: "Need a reliable source. Saying that his wife died is a pretty big statement, you need to back it up with something." https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Death_of_Nancy_Benoit_rumour_posted_on_Wikipedia_hours_prior_to_body_being_found You can do research you know. reportquote

Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#11 Raven_Cyarm posted... NYb97 posted... Also odd the entire situation was reported on Wikipedia, prior to him actually dying. For a start, that sounds like an urban myth. Is there any actual visible proof of this? And second of all... why would the person who killed Benoit think "Man, I better make sure I edit his Wikipedia page as fast as possible in order to disguise my involvement." That reasoning can't change the fact that it happened, if it was indeed edited prior to her death that is. Axiom ^^ reportquote

truffleshuffles 3 days ago#12 He killed them he is a garbage human, quit trying to justify why you adore a horrible person. reportquote

Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#13 NYb97 posted... Raven_Cyarm posted... NYb97 posted...  show hidden quote(s) For a start, that sounds like an urban myth. Is there any actual visible proof of this? And second of all... why would the person who killed Benoit think "Man, I better make sure I edit his Wikipedia page as fast as possible in order to disguise my involvement." An anonymous edit from IP address 69.120.111.23 using the Internet service provider Optimum Online was made at 04:01 UTC on Chris Benoit's Wikipedia article. On a paragraph about an earlier fight: "However, Chris Benoit was replaced… due to personal issues,…", the anonymous editor added " stemming from the death of his wife Nancy." The edit was reversed just under one hour later with the comment: "Need a reliable source. Saying that his wife died is a pretty big statement, you need to back it up with something." https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Death_of_Nancy_Benoit_rumour_posted_on_Wikipedia_hours_prior_to_body_being_found You can do research you know. Axiom ^^ reportquote

NYb97 3 days ago#14 Ransom_Stark posted... NYb97 posted... Raven_Cyarm posted...  show hidden quote(s) An anonymous edit from IP address 69.120.111.23 using the Internet service provider Optimum Online was made at 04:01 UTC on Chris Benoit's Wikipedia article. On a paragraph about an earlier fight: "However, Chris Benoit was replaced… due to personal issues,…", the anonymous editor added " stemming from the death of his wife Nancy." The edit was reversed just under one hour later with the comment: "Need a reliable source. Saying that his wife died is a pretty big statement, you need to back it up with something." https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Death_of_Nancy_Benoit_rumour_posted_on_Wikipedia_hours_prior_to_body_being_found You can do research you know. So lets see people disprove this, instead of running away. Lets see if we can get some concrete answers, since this is factual proof. reportquote

Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#15 KillerKhan420 posted... As much as I don't want to believe he is, he did. End of story You sound like an indolent county sheriff who wants nothing more than to close the case at hand because investigation is proving too much for him. Axiom ^^ reportquote

bigpatpunchhard 3 days ago#16 dwarfs are actually super intelligent because the blood has less time to travel from the heart to the brain so it is still fresh blood this is the same as how kids learn things quicker because the blood is not stale from having to travel through the worn out arteries of an elongated body so I would listen to what swoggle has to say https://imgur.com/mZ99iDE Name me a more iconic duo... I'll wait reportquote

spudY2K 3 days ago#17 People vandalise Wikipedia all the time, this sometimes includes things like deaths that didn't happen. Much like the stopped clock being right twice a day, sometimes the vandal just happens to unknowingly write something that turns out to be true. Besides, what exactly is the alternative hypothesis if we assume that this was written by someone who knew? Did they want to get the message out but feared the consequences? If that's the case then why write a short, vague message in a place that literally keeps track of who added what? A short phone call to Dave Meltzer would be far more productive. I'm sure we'd all like to believe that Chris Benoit didn't do what he did. The fact is that there isn't a lot of compelling evidence to support any of these claims, and more than enough to show that he did. Look at arson - I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building? I know I have. reportquote

Iwin2013 3 days ago#18 1.) Overwhelming evidence points to him being innocent.  2.) He had a clean system during autopsy; according to a quick google search, alcohol and drugs take a while to clean itself out of the body. Explain that?  3.) Most people who are agreeing with the police, are the same type who say they plant evidence on minorities. MAGA 2020 reportquote

NYb97 3 days ago#19 I truly believe Kevin Sullivan had a hand and had been planning his revenge for a long, long time. With his connections, it was easy to set up Benoit. reportquote

spudY2K 3 days ago#20 Iwin2013 posted... 1.) Overwhelming evidence points to him being innocent. State the evidence in that case. So far all we have is some dude editing Wikipedia and a unsubstantiated theory involving Kevin Sullivan. Iwin2013 posted... 2.) He had a clean system during autopsy; according to a quick google search, alcohol and drugs take a while to clean itself out of the body. Explain that? Benoit's toxicology report didn't come back clean. He had a number of drugs in his system at the time of his death, albeit at therapeutic doses. But that doesn't prove anything regardless, Benoit's severe brain damage is generally suggested as a more likely cause than any drug use. Iwin2013 posted... 3.) Most people who are agreeing with the police, are the same type who say they plant evidence on minorities. This is nothing more than an ad hominem attack. Attack the argument, not the person making it. What motivation would the police have to stage a crime scene in this case? Look at arson - I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building? I know I have. reportquote

GhettoMF 3 days ago#21 I loved Benoit and I would be beyond ecstatic if he was proven 100% innocent... However, while the wikipedia entry being written BEFORE the death happened/reported definently seem fishy, it doesn't disprove anything for the sole possibility that, as ****** up as sounds...what if HE wrote the entry? 😔 reportquote

Starks 3 days ago#22 Because he's not in the Optimum Online service area... It's a very niche ISP. Unless he flew out to Long Island, called a friend there, or used a VPN, it's not possible. He committed the murders though. GamePACs: Now accepting donations (edited 3 days ago)reportquote

Big_Evil13 3 days ago#23 Raven_Cyarm posted... NYb97 posted... Also odd the entire situation was reported on Wikipedia, prior to him actually dying. For a start, that sounds like an urban myth. Is there any actual visible proof of this? And second of all... why would the person who killed Benoit think "Man, I better make sure I edit his Wikipedia page as fast as possible in order to disguise my involvement." Believe me or not, but I saw that wiki page before it was taken down...as it was posted on here, on gamefaqs. It was about 6 or so hours before the actual reveal. Some kid came forward and said itr was a joke...That, to me sounds like a setup..who the fuck does that?... Especially to someone as obscur as 'Woman'. A LOT of stuff was avoided by police. A LOT.  I too think Kevin Sullivan has an hand in this. It's 10 years to the day as well... and he's not 100% sane. who knows... In the end , we'll never have an answer sadly.  A lot of people said he sounded like he had a fight or felt forced on the phone too... All things that went straight into the trash... It's a case that needs to be reopened for sure. reportquote

Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#24 GhettoMF posted... I loved Benoit and I would be beyond ecstatic if he was proven 100% innocent... However, while the wikipedia entry being written BEFORE the death happened/reported definently seem fishy, it doesn't disprove anything for the sole possibility that, as ****** up as sounds...what if HE wrote the entry? 😔 The murders took place in Fayetteville, Georgia... the IP address 69.120.111.23 belongs to New York. Axiom ^^ reportquote

VanDam 3 days ago#25 Weird, I didn't know so many people thought he was innocent... My power is discombobulatingly devastating, I could feel his facial tissue collapse under my force. Its ludicrous these mortals even attempt to enter my realm. reportquote

LoyalToTheGame 3 days ago#26 people speculate on celebrities and famous people dying all the time... Doesn't prove anything. People stalk wrestlers and know what hotels they're staying at etc. If Benoit wasn't seen in the city of the event someone could have gone the morbid route and posted he's missing the event due to a death in his family. City or IP address is irrelevant since VPN's are a thing. Also, drugs/alcohol weren't suspected to be cause. CTE and concussion based brain damaged was the cause and the family apparently donated his brain to Nowinski's group to study.. I think they determined his brain was heavily damaged. reportquote

LoyalToTheGame 3 days ago#27 VanDam posted... Weird, I didn't know so many people thought he was innocent... human beings are fragile. They look to conspiracies etc to explain shitty IRL events, 1 in a billion times a conspiracy might have some truth to it which emboldens these types of people. reportquote

spudY2K 3 days ago#28 Big_Evil13 posted... Believe me or not, but I saw that wiki page before it was taken down...as it was posted on here, on gamefaqs. It was about 6 or so hours before the actual reveal. Some kid came forward and said itr was a joke...That, to me sounds like a setup..who the fuck does that?... This is the internet and you find that surprising? The anonymity of the internet turns many people into dickbags who think it's funny to do "pranks" like that. Don't believe me? I took 5 minutes to look through the history of the Wikipedia article for another famous wrestling Chris, look what I found: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chris_Jericho&oldid=843870067 (search for "died" if you can't spot it) Wikipedia has had loads of these cases of vandalism over the years, is it so crazy to think that Benoit's was the same? It's a remarkable coincidence, but coincidences do happen (otherwise we wouldn't have a word for it, after all). Big_Evil13 posted... Especially to someone as obscur as 'Woman'. A LOT of stuff was avoided by police. A LOT. Like what? People say that there's lots of things avoided by the police, or there's lots of evidence ignored by the police, but nobody ever seems to give actual examples. Oh, and on the Kevin Sullivan thing. Do you have anything substantial to suggest this is even an unlikely possibility. Something more than just his history with Benoit and alleged occult activities (which I've yet to see proof of outside of gimmicks he played while wrestling)? Because those alone prove nothing, you have to suppose a bunch of extra stuff (without evidence) to actually reach the conclusion he did it. Surely if there was foul play there would be at least something else to say it happened, signs of struggle, a neighbour seeing something, anything. Hell, Benoit was seen after Nancy was believed to have died. How does that fit with this theory? Look at arson - I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building? I know I have. reportquote

Suspiria 3 days ago#29 Is Hornswoggle a flat earther as well? reportquote

BruceWayneJr 3 days ago#30 LoyalToTheGame posted... VanDam posted... Weird, I didn't know so many people thought he was innocent... human beings are fragile. They look to conspiracies etc to explain shitty IRL events, 1 in a billion times a conspiracy might have some truth to it which emboldens these types of people. QAnon, flat earthers, Elvis sightings, religion, Trump supporters.... lots of people are really stupid and gullible. He might be the president, but it's not his country. reportquote

StrangeJourney 3 days ago#31 I'm pretty sure they investigated the IP and it turned out to be just some random dude trolling on Wiki for lulz who didn't know how severe the situation actually was. To actually think "Benoit didn't do it!" just because of some random Wiki edit is the stupidest fucking thing ever. John Cena for Musou Stars. reportquote

Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#32 Why was Benoit not hanging from the weight machine? He was found laying on the floor underneath the machine. A police officer said that Benoit was “slumped” against the weight machine. Axiom ^^ reportquote

KiwiTerraRizing 3 days ago#33 Fuck him and any conspiracy asshole who thinks this. He was an abusive piece of shit who murdered his wife and child. Trucking Legend Don Schneider https://i.imgtc.com/0EE5xDd.jpg reportquote

Ivany2008 3 days ago#34 KiwiTerraRizing posted... Fuck him and any conspiracy asshole who thinks this. He was an abusive piece of shit who murdered his wife and child. at what point was he abusive prior to the murder? There is no evidence of him being abusive. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm just stating the obvious. reportquote

Grischnak 3 days ago#35 KiwiTerraRizing posted... Fuck him and any conspiracy asshole who thinks this. He was an abusive piece of shit who murdered his wife and child. I think it's more pitiable then anything. Hornswoggle just can't envision that his friend was secretly an evil piece of shit. It happens to a lot of people when people they care about get revealed to be something like that. Some people just can't handle that kind of truth so they gotta lie to themselves. reportquote

Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#36 There's absolutely no record of him being abusive AFAIK. Axiom ^^ reportquote

spudY2K 3 days ago#37 Ransom_Stark posted... Why was Benoit not hanging from the weight machine? He was found laying on the floor underneath the machine. A police officer said that Benoit was “slumped” against the weight machine. I've never seen anything to suggest that Benoit was found on the floor. The guy could still have been "Slumped against the weight machine" if he was found hanging from it. I always assumed that "slumped" merely meant that he was hunched over without any sign of life, which isn't incompatible with that. Look at arson - I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building? I know I have. reportquote

Raven_Cyarm 3 days ago#38 NYb97 posted... You can do research you know. The burden of proof is on the one bringing up the claim. Caw CAWWWWWWWW reportquote

Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#39 spudY2K posted... Ransom_Stark posted... Why was Benoit not hanging from the weight machine? He was found laying on the floor underneath the machine. A police officer said that Benoit was “slumped” against the weight machine. I've never seen anything to suggest that Benoit was found on the floor. The guy could still have been "Slumped against the weight machine" if he was found hanging from it. I always assumed that "slumped" merely meant that he was hunched over without any sign of life, which isn't incompatible with that. Except words "slumped" and "hanged" completely contradict each other. It's either one or the other. Axiom ^^ reportquote

manta53 3 days ago#40 Benoit killed himself and his family, get over it, your in denial. Church of Korvin reportquote

GhettoMF 3 days ago#41 Ransom_Stark posted... GhettoMF posted... I loved Benoit and I would be beyond ecstatic if he was proven 100% innocent... However, while the wikipedia entry being written BEFORE the death happened/reported definently seem fishy, it doesn't disprove anything for the sole possibility that, as ****** up as sounds...what if HE wrote the entry? 😔 The murders took place in Fayetteville, Georgia... the IP address 69.120.111.23 belongs to New York. Wow! I didnt know that. Damn...his case needs to be looked into again. Something is off reportquote

spudY2K 3 days ago#42 Ransom_Stark posted... Except words "slumped" and "hanged" completely contradict each other. It's either one or the other. I don't see why that'd have to be the case. "Slumped" doesn't have to refer to the whole body, it can also mean just the head and shoulders. You can have a slumped posture while stood up. Language can be annoyingly imprecise like that at times. Look at arson - I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building? I know I have. reportquote

DUKLegend 3 days ago#43 I love the pieces of shit that have blamed Kevin Sullivan this whole time for this too. Imagine being a guy who has to read tweets/letters/etc every day of your life with claims that you killed your ex-wife who you haven't had anything to do with for nearly a decade. Some pieces of work here in the pro wrestling internet community. reportquote

GhettoMF 3 days ago#44 Wait wait wait HOLD UP...so after doing a lot of reading, what is this I'm seeing, talking about how texts were sent from Benoits phone AFTER the alleged time he would have died? WTF??? reportquote

n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#45 spudY2K posted... But that doesn't prove anything regardless, Benoit's severe brain damage is generally suggested as a more likely cause than any drug use. This. Guys, it sucks, but it is what it is. Someone who was damn good at his job and entertained us for several years had more damage done to him in that process than anyone at the time realized and it lead to tragedy. An eerily coincidental Wikipedia edit and claims of "evidence" proving his innocence that no one can ever actually elaborate on when asked won't change that. I have a screenshot of Scott Hall's Wikipedia page edited to say he is "an American professional wrestler and a race horse". People do stupid shit. My two cents on this, it's okay to still enjoy his work and look back at a great career. It's damaging to try and explain it away and pretend he didn't do it. Too many safe guards are in place today to make sure people don't end up with a brain like his, it's a tragedy that needs to be learned from so it doesn't happen again. Not just because we lost Benoit too soon, but because of his wife and son as well. Steam: Tye Niweiner | XBL / PSN / EU NNID: Nifterific US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t | EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t reportquote

NYb97 3 days ago#46 LoyalToTheGame posted... VanDam posted... Weird, I didn't know so many people thought he was innocent... human beings are fragile. They look to conspiracies etc to explain shitty IRL events, 1 in a billion times a conspiracy might have some truth to it which emboldens these types of people. No, they look to facts to explain unanswered questions. Same with 9/11 reportquote

ozzyman314 3 days ago#47 Aaron Hernandez pretty much proved a guy that by all accounts seems normal, but with a severe CTE, can randomly do some crazy shit for no apparent reason, including murder/suicide. "The left doesn't take anything seriously except bashing the right" Loading Signature.......... (edited 3 days ago)reportquote

n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#48 GhettoMF posted... Ransom_Stark posted... GhettoMF posted...  show hidden quote(s) The murders took place in Fayetteville, Georgia... the IP address 69.120.111.23 belongs to New York. Wow! I didnt know that. Damn...his case needs to be looked into again. Something is off It's called a VPN. GhettoMF posted... Wait wait wait HOLD UP...so after doing a lot of reading, what is this I'm seeing, talking about how texts were sent from Benoits phone AFTER the alleged time he would have died? WTF??? Those kinds of things are always estimates. Steam: Tye Niweiner | XBL / PSN / EU NNID: Nifterific US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t | EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t reportquote

TheGame32 3 days ago#49 1) Chavo Guerrero – a close friend of Benoit- told WWE magazine that he talked to Chris for while on Friday night on his house phone. About 45 minutes into the conversation, Chris told him that there was somebody knocking at his door and he was going to see who it was. Shortly after Chris answered the door, there was a “scuffle” and then his house phone line went dead. Chris could only be reached on his cell phone about 3 hours later. This is very significant. This explains why there was no forced entry. Chris let the killer or killers in.  2) After Chavo reached Chis on his cell phone, he said that Chris sounded very odd, groggy and tired. He also said that Chris told him “I Love You Chavo” which sounded forced. The WWE also said that when Chris called in and told them that Nancy and Daniel were sick he did not sound like himself. He sounded groggy. Chris then said “I Love You” which they say was out of context because he usually didn’t say this.  3) Chris Benoit’s cell phone is missing. The police cannot find his cell phone or the needles they say Chris used to inject himself with steroids shortly before he died.  4) Chris was not hanging from the weight machine, he was laying on the floor underneath the machine. Another officer said that Benoit was “slumped” against the weight machine.  5) There was a white cloth wrapped around Chris’ neck. If he was so suicidal why would he care if his neck was bruised?  6) The medical examiner says that Chris Benoit died on Saturday. The text messages were sent on Sunday. Chris was already dead so who sent the text messages? It is noted that nobody talked to Chris on Sunday.  7) The steroids found in Chris’ house were not in his body.  8) If Chris’ had murdered his family then why did he need to text people? Think about it. Everybody was dead. Nobody would hear him talking so why text? Calling would have been easier. (I believe the killer text Benoit’s address to get somebody to come to the house to find the bodies)  9) Chris sent Chavo a text message telling him his address. Why would he do this? Chavo already knew were Chris lived. He spent the previous weekend with him.  10) Chris’ body was badly de- composed, about the same as Nancy’s. This shows he died sooner than Sunday.  11) Why would he tie up Nancy to kill her? He was a big guy. He could have just hit her one good time and she would have been out.  12) Ray also told me that the world press is reporting the manner of the deaths wrong. He says that Daniel was shot in his head and Nancy was shot in her chest. Tampa Bay Buccaneers  Orlando Magic (edited 3 days ago)reportquote

TheGame32 3 days ago#50 13) Chavo said that the Chris Benoit seemed “worried” about something but he could not get Chris to open up and tell him why he was worried.  14) There was no Bible besides Chris’ body. Why would he place a bible beside Nancy and Daniel and not place one beside his own if he knew he was about to take his own life?  15) There were 10 empty beer cans and an empty body of wine besides Chris’ body. He tested negative for alcohol.  16) The toxicology confirmed that Chris had Hydrocodone (pain killer) Xanex (anti-anxiety drug). I have used both of these. These 2 drugs combined will sedate Chris and make him very sleepy. So he could not fight back.  17) The police originally said that Daniel died on Friday because his body was badly de-composing. This supports my belief that all 3 died on Friday night. The police changed the manner of Daniel’s death 3 times. 1st he died from a garbage bag, 2nd he died from a choke hold, 3rd he was smothered by a pillow. Why would they keep changing?  18) The police kept changing the location of where Nancy’s body was found. 1st she was found in the downstairs family room. 2nd she was found in the upstairs bedroom. 3rd she was found in the house office.  19) Chris’ father said that Chris called him on father’s day and told him that he wished he could spend more time with his family but he had to work. One of Nancy’s friend says that Nancy Loved Chris and she had no plans to leave him.  20) Retired Wrestler Bam Bam Bigalow died 1-19-07. Sherry Martel died 6-15-07. The Benoit family died 6-22-07. Since this family died, 2 other wrestlers have died. (Brian Adams and Johnny Crush in July and August 07) Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero and Brian Pillman all died the night before they were set to win title belts. Sherry Martel’s death is even more suspicious to me. Sherry Martel had ties to Nancy Benoit’s ex-husband Kevin Sullivan. The circumstances surrounding her death have not been released.  21) Kevin Sullivan told Chris Benoit that he would kill him. Kevin is currently a high ranking member of a satanic cult. Kevin is also on the WWE Board of Directors. Kevin Sullivan also had motive to kill Daniel Benoit because he was Chris and Nancy’s offspring. Retired wrestler Dusty Roads said that “he danced with the devil” when working with Kevin Sullivan who is known as being Cold-hearted and conniving. The Benoit family was murdered on the 10-year anniversary of Nancy’s divorce from Kevin Sullivan.  22) Nancy Benoit’s death was posted on the internet, 14 hours before her body was found.  23) Weeks before he died, Chris Benoit’s colleagues said that Chris began taking alternate routes to and from work and back to his house. Chris and Nancy believed that somebody was following them. Chris’ friends dismissed his worries as paranoia. Tampa Bay Buccaneers  Orlando Magic reportquote

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   n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#51 @TheGame32 words aren't proof. You don't have sources for a single one of those. Steam: Tye Niweiner | XBL / PSN / EU NNID: Nifterific US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t | EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t reportquote

   gainingtheoffense 3 days ago#52 Vince: "IT'S ME, AUSTIN! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, AUSTIN!" :V -- Turbam reportquote

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   Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#54 n00bsaib0t posted... @TheGame32 words aren't proof. You don't have sources for a single one of those. These are the numerous inconsistencies that we are talking about. If none of these would exist then it was really a closed case per se, but not when these inconsistencies exist. Say whatever you want but all of this needs to be addressed and I'm surprised why all of it haven't been looked into by the authorities. It's debatable if none of it isn't proof, but what's not debatable is that these inconsistencies makes the veracity of the evidence in doubt, the same evidence which led everyone to believe that Benoit killed himself and his family. Axiom ^^ reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#55 Ransom_Stark posted... n00bsaib0t posted... @TheGame32 words aren't proof. You don't have sources for a single one of those. These are the numerous inconsistencies that we are talking about. If none of these would exist then it was really a closed case per se, but not when these inconsistencies exist. Say whatever you want but all of this needs to be addressed and I'm surprised why all of it haven't been looked into by the authorities. It's debatable if none of it isn't proof, but what's not debatable is that these inconsistencies makes the veracity of the evidence in doubt, the same evidence which led everyone to believe that Benoit killed himself and his family. No. There is no proof that anything he said isn’t just words on a monitor. Why do police need to look into something that no one has proof of? Where are the scans of the Chavo interview in WWE magazine? Why does Jericho, who is friends with Chavo and would believe his story, think Benoit did it? Where are the contradicting police reports? Where is any proof that those claims aren’t made up? Steam: Tye Niweiner | XBL / PSN / EU NNID: Nifterific US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t | EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t reportquote

   AlCalavicci 3 days ago#56 n00bsaib0t posted... Ransom_Stark posted... n00bsaib0t posted...  show hidden quote(s) These are the numerous inconsistencies that we are talking about. If none of these would exist then it was really a closed case per se, but not when these inconsistencies exist. Say whatever you want but all of this needs to be addressed and I'm surprised why all of it haven't been looked into by the authorities. It's debatable if none of it isn't proof, but what's not debatable is that these inconsistencies makes the veracity of the evidence in doubt, the same evidence which led everyone to believe that Benoit killed himself and his family. No. There is no proof that anything he said isn’t just words on a monitor. Why do police need to look into something that no one has proof of? Where are the scans of the Chavo interview in WWE magazine? Why does Jericho, who is friends with Chavo and would believe his story, think Benoit did it? Where are the contradicting police reports? Where is any proof that those claims aren’t made up? I agree. I don't think the WWE magazine thing exists. That would be totally out of character for the WWE to publish something like that in their magazine. For the rest of those "inconsistencies", there's nothing that backs them up within that post, so you can only take them as unverified stories. http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111123223446/simpsons/images/9/99/K.png I didn't even give you my coat! reportquote

   spudY2K 3 days ago#57 Okay, gone through the first half. Suffice to say that list is not holding up great so far. 1) Never read that interview, I'll have to look it up to fact check (I'm suspicious though, as it doesn't strike me as something WWE would print) 2) None of that is incompatible with what actually happened. Benoit sounding odd and doing out of character things wouldn't be surprising if he'd just killed someone. 3) Have to fact check the first bit, not sure I've heard this before so I can't comment. I do know that the police never claimed that he'd taken steroids though. It was widely debated in the following weeks, but nothing could be said conclusively until the toxicology report came out, which showed no steroids in his system. 4) Already discussed this one. Never seen any report that states he was found on the floor. 5) If Benoit was out of his mind when he killed (again, brain damage) you can expect certain illogical behaviour. But, regardless, how does this support the claim of him being murdered? Why would the murders put it there either? 6) The official report has Benoit dying on the Sunday, not Saturday. 7) True, but so what? There's nothing to say that the steroids weren't his, just that he hadn't taken any recently enough for it to show on his tests. If I remember correctly, it was reported at the time that he had been prescribed steroids by, the now disgraced, Dr. Astin due to low testosterone levels. 8) Okay, but why wouldn't he text people? It's not like people only send texts when they need to be quiet. Maybe he didn't really want to talk to people because of what had happened. Maybe he just prefered texting. This is conjecture at best. 9) Again, weird behaviour isn't incompatible with someone who has brain damage and has just killed his wife. It doesn't prove foul play directly either. 10) Not true. At the very least, Chris' brain was in good enough condition to be analysed by Chris Nowinski's team. 11) This I don't know. It's one of the unanswered questions of the case, I'll admit. But it doesn't mean it had to be foul play. It's possible Benoit didn't kill her right away and... well... made it slow, so to speak. It's not a nice thing to think about either way. 12) Who is Ray and why should I believe something that conflicts with the official reports so drastically? I'll come back to the rest later on. Look at arson - I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building? I know I have. reportquote

   KillerKhan420 3 days ago#58 A mother can't believe her son shot up someone too, but there's video that shows the damn shooting. This is all people who want to believe Benoit wouldn't do what he did because they put him on a pedestal. He caused a huge scandal by his actions and killed two people and showed remorse afterwards by placing Bible's by their bodies.  Writing to a dead friend, driving other ways home, he was beyond crazy at that point but he wore a mask to hide it all to everyone. A brain damaged man who had the supposed brain an elderly dementia patient had would not be able to function properly in the real world, would not be able to drive, would not be able to pick up the phone and give an elaborate story on why he could show up to a live event.  Chavo and even Nancy's sister have done interviews on this, Benoit did it, end of story. The scandal it created is on par with the sex and steroid scandals of the early 90s. "I know how the business works because I'm a wrestling fan"-hulkhogan1 reportquote

   Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)3 days ago#59 n00bsaib0t posted... Ransom_Stark posted... n00bsaib0t posted...  show hidden quote(s) These are the numerous inconsistencies that we are talking about. If none of these would exist then it was really a closed case per se, but not when these inconsistencies exist. Say whatever you want but all of this needs to be addressed and I'm surprised why all of it haven't been looked into by the authorities. It's debatable if none of it isn't proof, but what's not debatable is that these inconsistencies makes the veracity of the evidence in doubt, the same evidence which led everyone to believe that Benoit killed himself and his family. No. There is no proof that anything he said isn’t just words on a monitor. Why do police need to look into something that no one has proof of? Where are the scans of the Chavo interview in WWE magazine? Why does Jericho, who is friends with Chavo and would believe his story, think Benoit did it? Where are the contradicting police reports? Where is any proof that those claims aren’t made up? The job of police IS to find the evidence. What you're saying is that police shouldn't act on the matter at all because it might not turn out to be usable evidence in a case. Also, no one can just discredit the numerous inconsistencies in these events by just saying that these are word in on a monitor. Like I said before, all of this was needed to be address and you, a random poster on the internet can't speak on behalf of police. Axiom ^^ reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 3 days ago#60 Ransom_Stark posted... n00bsaib0t posted... Ransom_Stark posted...  show hidden quote(s) No. There is no proof that anything he said isn’t just words on a monitor. Why do police need to look into something that no one has proof of? Where are the scans of the Chavo interview in WWE magazine? Why does Jericho, who is friends with Chavo and would believe his story, think Benoit did it? Where are the contradicting police reports? Where is any proof that those claims aren’t made up? The job of police IS to find the evidence. What you're saying is that police shouldn't act on the matter at all because it might not turn out to be usable evidence in a case. Also, no one can just discredit the numerous inconsistencies in these events by just saying that these are word in on a monitor. Like I said before, all of this was needed to be address and you, a random poster on the internet can't speak on behalf of police. The police can’t waste time investigating every lie on the internet. You need something to substantiate the claim, then it’s worth looking into. Until there is proof there are no inconsistencies. Otherwise I can call the police and claim you killed Benoit and your claim otherwise is just an “inconsistency”. Steam: Tye Niweiner | XBL / PSN / EU NNID: Nifterific US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t | EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t reportquote

   spudY2K 3 days ago#61 13) I think I've heard this interview, actually. There's actually a few reported instances of strange behaviour from Benoit in early 2007 (I think MVP said similar sort of stuff). Again, this isn't incompatible with Benoit's undiagnosed brain damage. Paranoia is a well known symptom arising from brain injuries. 14) Again, illogical behaviour isn't proof of anything in this sort of case, but there is a fairly obvious interpretation. Chris, perhaps in a more lucid moment, felt that he didn't deserve salvation for what he had done. I can't prove this though, and it would be bold of me to claim it's more than just a theory on my part. 15) Nancy did have an elevated blood alcohol level, though it was impossible to prove it was from alcohol, rather than decomposition. 16) Both were prescribed and taken at therapeutic levels. So probably unlikely to cause this effect (but I'm not a chemist, so I can't say for certain). 17&18) I don't remember the official story ever changing here. I'd have to reread old articles, I guess. But it's important to separate inaccurate reporting from inaccurate information from the police, as it's possibly the former here. 20) This isn't even an argument, it's just "look, these guys all died" as if it's weird for a wrestler to die young. There's a pretty high correlation between wrestling and bad drug habits (particularly in the 80s and 90s). So dying of an overdose as Sherri did is sadly not that rare. Also, the "connections to Kevin Sullivan" is pretty dubious. Having connections to Kevin Sullivan is pretty easy when he was the booker in WCW and a guy who worked with some big names over the years, a lot of people fit that bill and are still alive. Also Eddie wasn't going to win the World title the day he died, Randy was booked to win that match. 21) Again, I've not seen proof for the satanic cult thing, please feel free to let me know if I'm wrong there. He isn't and has never been on the WWE board of directors (this is the current board: http://corporate.wwe.com/who-we-are/leadership). I don't think he's even worked for WWE since the 70s. Nancy and Kevin did separate in 1997, though without seeing a divorce certificate I don't see how anyone could know if it was exactly the 10th anniversary. 22) Already discussed this, could easily be vandalism and if not, why would someone who knew post it there? 23) Like I said for #13, paranoia is not uncommon amongst those with brain trauma. Also, correction from before. Steroid was found in Benoit's urine, so that refutes #7. Look at arson - I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building? I know I have. (edited 3 days ago)reportquote

   ozzyman314 3 days ago#62 Exactly how many people would have the strength to overpower a guy like Benoit?  All this conspiracy stuff is horse shit and doesn't make any sense.  As we saw with Hernandez, everything with Benoit lines up with one of those crazy incidents for someone with severe CTE. "The left doesn't take anything seriously except bashing the right" Loading Signature.......... reportquote

   LaManoNeraII 3 days ago#63 Do midgets have smaller brains than us too? https://imgur.com/WQJlV reportquote

   Serious Cat 3 days ago#64 Ransom_Stark posted... Why was Benoit not hanging from the weight machine? He was found laying on the floor underneath the machine. A police officer said that Benoit was “slumped” against the weight machine. Because he set up the pulley with enough counterweight to strangle himself without pulling him off the ground. There's also mention of Kevin Sullivan being on WWE's board of directors. It was a different Kevin Sullivan who worked for WWE's magazine department and wrote a few books for them. I are Serious Cat This is serious thread reportquote

   Master Alien 3 days ago#65 NYb97 posted... LoyalToTheGame posted... VanDam posted...  show hidden quote(s) human beings are fragile. They look to conspiracies etc to explain shitty IRL events, 1 in a billion times a conspiracy might have some truth to it which emboldens these types of people. No, they look to facts to explain unanswered questions. Same with 9/11 Suspended  User Since: Oct 2018 Karma: 9 Active Posts: 60 Total Badges: 4 oof. this guy definitely knew too much reportquote

   Kimbos_Egg 3 days ago#66 here we go. Look at all the armchair detectives looking for attention. SOrry, but your hero is a child murdering bastard. get the fuck over it. You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/vgckRUN reportquote

   The Top Crusader 3 days ago#67 n00bsaib0t posted... @TheGame32 words aren't proof. You don't have sources for a single one of those. Exactly. So sick of seeing people copy and paste that dumb stuff that some random weirdo made up as if it’s fact. Someone posting it online doesn’t make it a fact. Unless it’s Dave Meltzer. https://imgur.com/09qFfLV reportquote

   Zergrush80 3 days ago#68 Master Alien posted... NYb97 posted... LoyalToTheGame posted...  show hidden quote(s) No, they look to facts to explain unanswered questions. Same with 9/11 Suspended  User Since: Oct 2018 Karma: 9 Active Posts: 60 Total Badges: 4 oof. this guy definitely knew too much Shhhhh.....they're listening.......*runs under a table* For the Swarm!!!!! (edited 3 days ago)reportquote

   MotaroRIP619 3 days ago#69 https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit_mystery_editor_confesses:_claims_%22terrible_coincidence%22 Benoit did it. Get over it reportquote

   Gamer4ever77 3 days ago#70 So did someone hang Benoit on that weight pulley? reportquote

   DARK ANDY 3 days ago#71 KillerKhan420 posted... he was beyond crazy at that point but he wore a mask to hide it all to everyone. No, he hadn't been the Pegasus Kid for years when he went crazy. What are you talking about? *points to self* "Superstar..." *points to everybody else* "..LOOOSER!" http://www.youtube.com/user/DARKISANDY MY V-LOGS reportquote

   Thekliq 2 days ago#72 Hey guys, guys, guys. I just found Tupac, Jimmy Hoffa, and Elvis. reportquote

   Iwin2013 2 days ago#73 DARK ANDY posted... KillerKhan420 posted... he was beyond crazy at that point but he wore a mask to hide it all to everyone. No, he hadn't been the Pegasus Kid for years when he went crazy. What are you talking about? Shows that @KillerKhan420 doesn’t know anything at all. MAGA 2020 reportquote

   Mystery_man2 2 days ago#74 NYb97 posted... https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Death_of_Nancy_Benoit_rumour_posted_on_Wikipedia_hours_prior_to_body_being_found This is all very creepy, that and the other information that was posted about Chris thinking someone was following him and that he could only be reached via his cell.  The police closed this case way to fast. There's still a ton of evidence that points to someone else doing it.  But hey, ignoring facts is what people on here are notorious for. Bunch of blunderheads. reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 2 days ago#75 Mystery_man2 posted... NYb97 posted... https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Death_of_Nancy_Benoit_rumour_posted_on_Wikipedia_hours_prior_to_body_being_found This is all very creepy, that and the other information that was posted about Chris thinking someone was following him and that he could only be reached via his cell.  The police closed this case way to fast. There's still a ton of evidence that points to someone else doing it.  But hey, ignoring facts is what people on here are notorious for. Bunch of blunderheads. The link explaining this was posted like three fucking times. Steam: Tye Niweiner | XBL / PSN / EU NNID: Nifterific US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t | EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t reportquote

   Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)2 days ago#76 My my.. we really did close the Benoit case here in PWB. Axiom ^^ reportquote

   Zack_Attackv1 2 days ago#77 Hornswoggle is a stupid little bastard. https://imgur.com/fqFXO00 reportquote

   spudY2K 2 days ago#78 Mystery_man2 posted... This is all very creepy, that and the other information that was posted about Chris thinking someone was following him and that he could only be reached via his cell.  The police closed this case way to fast. There's still a ton of evidence that points to someone else doing it.  But hey, ignoring facts is what people on here are notorious for. Bunch of blunderheads. I literally refuted 23 of these so called "facts" earlier in this topic. Most of the "evidence" presented was based either on things that were completely false or things that were not proof of foul play (and aren't incompatible with Benoit being the killer). How is it creepy that Benoit could only be reached by his cell phone? How is it even unusual? On most days that's true for me too, and I'm hardly the only one who would say that. He had a job that had him on the road over half the days of any year, so it'd be reasonable to expect that a cell phone would be his primary form of communication. As I mentioned before. Chris may have thought someone was following him, but that doesn't mean that it was true. He had serious brain damage and could easily have been suffering with paranoia. Look at arson - I mean, how many of us can honestly say that at one time or another he hasn't set fire to some great public building? I know I have. reportquote

   HeartbreakKid37 2 days ago#79 0% chance Chris did it imo. Favorite Teams: Kentucky Wildcats, San Antonio Spurs, and Carolina Panthers... No other sport really matters to me. reportquote

   archenemy_1314 2 days ago#80 All this talk about VPNs. They've existed, yes. However have only become widely known in recent years. You think someone was using a VPN in 2007? For Wikipedia? Maybe? Unlikely, however. I know the pieces fit, 'cause I watched them fall away. reportquote

   AsIfByMagic 2 days ago#81 ozzyman314 posted... Aaron Hernandez pretty much proved a guy that by all accounts seems normal, but with a severe CTE, can randomly do some crazy shit for no apparent reason, including murder/suicide. He's a terrible example because he had a track record of violence and gun crime. He's more of a case of proving that just because a gang banger type gets money doesn't mean they'll stop being a piece of shit. (edited 2 days ago)reportquote

   CesarFaison 2 days ago#82 I remember there being a video on Youtube of police talking to the teen that edited the Wikipedia page. I don't know if it's still up there or not. They did get a warrant to search that computer, and from what I remember of the video there were these annoying clicking noises throughout it. With regards to Benoit allegedly opening the door and there being a scuffle, don't most people look to see who is at the door? I don't think if that really happened that he would have opened it for just anyone. And if Chavo heard this on the phone and then the call ended don't you think he would have notified the police instead of just hoping everything was ok? If Benoit was still on the phone and being attacked you'd also think that he'd have yelled for help or that something was wrong. It's an interesting topic but it seems to be bullshit. reportquote

   Azz_Vacuna 2 days ago#83 I was on this board when it all happened. Benoit no showing the Night of Champions was incredibly strange, and the problens he'd had with his wife before were documented. I think everyone had a dark thought something might've happened that night, and someone writing that on Wiki of all places really isn't hard to believe.  Point beibg the wiki entry doesn't mean shit. Benoit did it. reportquote

   UrbanMessiah 2 days ago#84 With all we now know about repeated head trauma and the effects it can have on severe personality shifts, the evidence seems to logically point towards that as what happened with Benoit. However, follow enough true crime stories and you'll notice that what logically makes sense isn't always proven true in the end.  Does the evidence point towards Benoit having committed the crimes for whatever reasons? It seems like it. Is there a possibility, however slim, that he didn't do it and someone else did? Reeeaallllyyy slim, but it's still there. Anybody claiming otherwise missed their calling and should've been a prosecuting district attorney because usually, they're the only ones with such absolute conviction about guilt. "Friendship ain't about trust...it's about nunchucks!" reportquote

   Johnny Blaque 2 days ago#85 I think I finally have the answer to this topic. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/218-pro-wrestling-wwe/77115044 reportquote

   Master Alien 2 days ago#86 occam's razor strikes again reportquote

   QuestionAsker 2 days ago#87 I have proof he didnt do it. Chris Benoit defeated Triple H (c) and Shawn Michaels by submission  Triple threat match for the World Heavyweight Championship  Wrestlemania XX hot reportquote

   Zergrush80 2 days ago#88 Either someone planned the perfect murder... Or Benoit Did It..... Take your pick.... For the Swarm!!!!! reportquote

   Mr_Karate_II  PLASMA CASH2 days ago#89 I've remained quiet throughout the topic until now. I don't think he did it, there's a lot of inconsistencies.  If someone else did it, they chose the perfect crime to pull off. Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4 Mercenaries Mode,Resident Evil 6 Mercenaries Mode & Call of Duty Ghosts (edited 2 days ago)reportquote

   Ransom_Stark (Topic Creator)2 days ago#90 Master Alien posted... occam's razor strikes again No it doesn't. If law and justice system started using occam's razor instead of bona fide hard evidence then most of the people being convicted of crimes would really be unjustly convicted. Axiom ^^ reportquote

   jimbiz 2 days ago#91 I remembered the whole, “who died and made you champion?” black humour jokes directed to John Morrison after he became the ECW Champion.  I really want to believe that Benoit didn’t do it because I loved him when he was part of the Smackdown 6, but he did it Toronto Raptors' fan and Kofi Kingston's brother. #BLACKEXCELLENCE #IMBLACKANDIMPROUD reportquote

   dextorboot 2 days ago#92 I believe him. He's got a different perspective than the rest of us. reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 2 days ago#93 Ransom_Stark posted... Master Alien posted... occam's razor strikes again No it doesn't. If law and justice system started using occam's razor instead of bona fide hard evidence then most of the people being convicted of crimes would really be unjustly convicted. And if they started using posts online from random kids claiming there are discrepancies with no proof of their claims guilty men would walk free. Steam: Tye Niweiner | XBL / PSN / EU NNID: Nifterific US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t | EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t reportquote

   Master Alien 2 days ago#94 Ransom_Stark posted... Master Alien posted... occam's razor strikes again No it doesn't. If law and justice system started using occam's razor instead of bona fide hard evidence then most of the people being convicted of crimes would really be unjustly convicted. uhhh that doesn't make any sense. if there was "bona fide hard evidence", it would be the explanation with the least amount of speculation involved. that's proving occam's razor "he did it" has the most evidence and fewest assumptions/least amount of speculation "he didn't do it" has little-to-no evidence and relies heavily on speculation reportquote

   Iwin2013 2 days ago#95 Master Alien posted... Ransom_Stark posted... Master Alien posted...  show hidden quote(s) No it doesn't. If law and justice system started using occam's razor instead of bona fide hard evidence then most of the people being convicted of crimes would really be unjustly convicted. uhhh that doesn't make any sense. if there was "bona fide hard evidence", it would be the explanation with the least amount of speculation involved. that's proving occam's razor "he did it" has the most evidence and fewest assumptions/least amount of speculation "he didn't do it" has little-to-no evidence and relies heavily on speculation What about the news about a random man coming forward at the time, saying he was hired to kill Benoit? It must've been fake because I can't find an update nor the original article. MAGA 2020 reportquote

   The Top Crusader 2 days ago#96 CesarFaison posted... I remember there being a video on Youtube of police talking to the teen that edited the Wikipedia page. I don't know if it's still up there or not. They did get a warrant to search that computer, and from what I remember of the video there were these annoying clicking noises throughout it. With regards to Benoit allegedly opening the door and there being a scuffle, don't most people look to see who is at the door? I don't think if that really happened that he would have opened it for just anyone. And if Chavo heard this on the phone and then the call ended don't you think he would have notified the police instead of just hoping everything was ok? If Benoit was still on the phone and being attacked you'd also think that he'd have yelled for help or that something was wrong. It's an interesting topic but it seems to be bullshit. Yeah, and I’m pretty sure Chavo has spoken out saying all that stuff is fake and as much as it sucks he knows Benoit did it. Because he isn’t a moron. https://imgur.com/09qFfLV reportquote

   Viggs 2 days ago#97 This topic is basically Benoits innocent prove me wrong Viggs M.D. PGY-1 :D reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 2 days ago#98 Viggs posted... This topic is basically Benoits innocent prove me wrong Well, that is how the legal system works and he didn’t have a trial to determine his guilt. Doesn’t change that these guys are pretending random internet posts with no source are facts, they truly are a pathetic group. But yeah, innocent until proven guilty. Steam: Tye Niweiner | XBL / PSN / EU NNID: Nifterific US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t | EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t reportquote

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