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- MELTZER: His turn was disgusting and exploitive like most of WWE (spoilers)
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That's always been in the plans, you know, him and Roman.. And. You know, I can't disagree with you because reality is.. I felt that it was.. I mean the reason they did it tonight was exploitive. He was tremendous. He was tremendous in his turn you know... I just wish it was next week or the week after. But that's the uh.. business. That's the bad part of the business right there. I mean uhh.. Look we're going to be talking you know.. It's.. It's.... great sympathy and I feel bad for every person who works in that company. RE: Dean Ambrose turn on 10/23 WOR
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Show must go on.
F Meltzer. |
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? That idiot is getting worked
Not changing until Big Show AND Rey Mysterio are both permanently gone from WWE. 10/28/2011
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I disagree with him. Yesterday was a great time to do it. Between the emotions and them winning the tag belts, it blindsided everyone.
Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran
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The show goes on. What a snowflake. They took a negative in losing Reigns, turned something positive out of it by my making his 2 best friends Mega Heel & Mega Babyface.
It was the perfect time, as no one expected it. IMO, one of the best 'betrayals' in wrestling history.
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He wishes it was next week...to a chorus of cheers. Effectively turning into a Becky antihero. Instead he looked like a mega villain Ciampa style. Boo! Negative 5 stars!
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Vince just said "Well SHIELD is over" lets go forward with the expected Dean heel turn which
was going to happen anyways.
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delicious butthurt is delicious
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More like Dave MeltDOWN!
I'll get back up for good this time and I ain't comin' down...
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This whole mindset of ”oh they should've waited til next week" is really stupid. Emotions was at an all time high and you have to take that opportunitty to strike. It worked based on all the reactions in the audience.
I kinda feel for Dean though. It looked like it was really hard for him to go through with all that but he and Seth are both professionals. |
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Perfect timing to make it happen in my opinion... Because you turn shit into chicken salad with this news.
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the wrestling businsess is explotitive?
No!
When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner.
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God Dave can be a real idiot.
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TundraKing87 posted...
Instead he looked like a mega villain Ciampa style. Please don't disrespect Dean Ambrose like this
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In ring spam BS aside, Ciampa was the only lad getting consistently booed for heel shit in NXT.
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I was pretty stunned but after I digested it fully it makes sense. Not only did they completely mess with the crowd's emotions with that win, but Ambrose can even now say without Roman there's no point to the reunion since Seth had turned on him before anyways and he never liked him.
Still it was wild to see a heel turn in today's wwe that people had been begging for get booed.
SIG
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Also, as if Roman wouldn't be more than fine with it. Ultimately it's a wrestling storyline and they have to get back to it.
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Eddie dies. Used in a storyline.
Paul Bearer dies. Used in a storyline. Lawler's Mom dies. Used in a storyline. And you're shocked by this? |
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Seth needed color
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JimPean posted...
That's always been in the plans, you know, him and Roman.. And. You know, I can't disagree with you because reality is.. I felt that it was.. I mean the reason they did it tonight was exploitive. He was tremendous. He was tremendous in his turn you know... I just wish it was next week or the week after. But that's the uh.. business. That's the bad part of the business right there. I mean uhh.. Look we're going to be talking you know.. It's.. It's.... great sympathy and I feel bad for every person who works in that company. RE: Dean Ambrose turn on 10/23 WOR UNDERTAKER! CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP UNDERTAKER!
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This dave meltzer guy is a real mark
I'm too sexy for this post
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GodofLaziness posted...
I kinda feel for Dean though. It looked like it was really hard for him to go through with all that but he and Seth are both professionals. lmfao that was part of the performance and it was amazingly well done. Dean cracks, then second guesses it for a bit, before finally embracing it and going all in. Honestly, one of the best turns you'll ever see from an actual acting perspective on the part of the heel.
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JessePinkman posted...
GodofLaziness posted...I kinda feel for Dean though. It looked like it was really hard for him to go through with all that but he and Seth are both professionals. It's not that it was just that he was actually tearing up. It's hard to fake cry even for professional actors lol but his performance as a whole was definitely amazing. |
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GodofLaziness posted...
JessePinkman posted...GodofLaziness posted...show hidden quote(s) Depends on the actor, some can fake cry at the drop of a hat (ex. Will Smith). Anyway, impossible to know if it was impacted by the events earlier, but I would assume that it was part of the act due to how well it worked in portraying Dean's instability, though I guess it doesn't matter either way.
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GodofLaziness posted...
I kinda feel for Dean though. It looked like it was really hard for him to go through with all that but he and Seth are both professionals. Great acting on his part. He made it seem like he had some instant regret after Dirty Deeds, the after a bit of thinking, just said “fuck it” and went full dark side. He did a really good job with that. I don’t think he as a person had any qualms with a heel turn. That part is a fake story.
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Meltzer is a pile of human shit, news @ 11
The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeant
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Perfectly valid to think doing the turn then was tasteless. Same as people who thought Punk using Bearer's death was tasteless.
Disagree and think both are good business but I get it
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Oh, I guess I'll just need to bold this so the idiots who believe this can see it.
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bwtowne23 posted...
This dave meltzer guy is a real mark King of Marks
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The Bearer thing didn't really help the angle and, honestly, made it where Undertaker had to win. It hurt the intrigue of the match.
This is different because people knew Dean would turn on Seth. It was just a matter of when.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Oh, I guess I'll just need to bold this so the idiots who believe this can see it. Anything stupid or idiotic said in dirt sheets or simply credited as a Meltzer quote came out of his mouth because he's a pile of human shit. He said it.
The idea of "doxxing" is idiotic. Why should anyone be able to hide behind the anonymity of the internet?-AndreLeGeant
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Some would say that it was in poor taste that Vince screwed Bret and used it to get himself over.
That didn't work out too well for business at all.........
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Oh, I guess I'll just need to bold this so the idiots who believe this can see it. I mean, duh. The way it's written as an obvious parody of Dave...you didn't need to really say it. It's par for the course on this board now though. A group of people totally beyond help.
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Honestly any other night would not have been a surprise. You can see heel turns from a mike away and this was expected, but not after a match dedicated to Roman and Dean doing his part in winning the tag team titles. At this point you think the show ends in them celebrating a victory but I was shocked that it wasn’t the case. I actually thought the Ambrose turn was not going to happen after all and if it did I expected the turn to happen after loosing the tag team championships by some miscommunication. You know, the typical stuff.
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AndreLeGeant posted...
The Bearer thing didn't really help the angle and, honestly, made it where Undertaker had to win. It hurt the intrigue of the match. It 100% made the build more entertaining (which people forget is a goal in and of itself) and Punk more of a hateable villain. I don't think the match, which was really great, is that good without such a good build
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It really made sense in the context for the match. Punk was going to be such a dick he'd make Taker lose his shit and get DQd
Though it made Punk look weak, he basically said "yeah I held the belt over a year but I certainly can't beat the undertaker"
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Nah I think he was just ready to take any victory. It's classic heel stuff. He might be good enough to get it done on his own anyway, but he's also prepared to do anything to win. How can good possibly beat evil here?
Standard pro wrestling. Also, "I want to offer my heartfelt condolences for your loss...at Wrestlemania" is just such a great line
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Meltzer is such a fucking mark
They lost their biggest babyface star and I think they reshuffled the decks pretty well aside from Elias
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meltzer is such a fucking tool. Turning Ambrose heel last night could have already been the plan all along, you never know....they could have just tweaked how they turned him is all. Fuck meltzer
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To quote Cultaholic:
Becky: I have the best heel turn of 2018! Dean: Hold my beer...
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Fucking lol
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snoochtonooch posted...
They lost their biggest babyface star and I think they reshuffled the decks pretty well aside from Elias Agree with this. Elias was perfect as he was. On topic, Raw was the perfect time for Dean's turn. We were already off balance and wouldn't have been surprised any other time.
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Dave needs to retire...
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Being exploitative would be having Roman come out at the end of the show and looking at Dean with a sad, shocked, WTF look. Then Dean attacks Roman.
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If you posted the rest of the dialogue. They spoke about how it was such a sad day and they could have just sent everyone home with a happy ending for once. Wrestling doesn't always have to be about getting heat that WWE rarely pays off anyway. Sometimes having cool moments works too. But as they said but it wasn't typed. Vince lives in his own world and he gets annoyed when real life interferes with his world. That's why he has the obscene attitude of the show must go on. And you fans buy into that shit.
Not that this show shouldn't have happened. But it should have been a happier tone. There's a good chance Roman reigns can die and they just did a standard raw show after giving the fans such heavy emotion. Send them home happy. Who fucking cares if it's a good turn on paper? They're gonna 50/50 book him and the crowd won't give a shit in 2 weeks.
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lilJoe457 posted...
If you posted the rest of the dialogue. They spoke about how it was such a sad day and they could have just sent everyone home with a happy ending for once. Wrestling doesn't always have to be about getting heat that WWE rarely pays off anyway. Sometimes having cool moments works too. But as they said but it wasn't typed. Vince lives in his own world and he gets annoyed when real life interferes with his world. That's why he has the obscene attitude of the show must go on. And you fans buy into that shit. See, I think the opposite. They didn't do a "show must go on" thing, they turned him heel then because they knew no one in that arena was going to cheer Dean. If Roman didn't deliver that promo, Dean would still be face and probably wouldn't have turned on Seth until the Rumble or something. Plus with Roman understanding how wrestling works I wouldn't be surprised if he suggested it to Vince or at the very least agreed to let them do it. If you don't understand that it was the perfect time to turn Dean, you don't understand wrestling.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Oh, I guess I'll just need to bold this so the idiots who believe this can see it. 10/23 WOR, you mark. Pony up 10.99 (plus tip) or learn to use the internet. @ me once you're ready to apologize and hold that L 👏 |
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JimPean posted...
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...Oh, I guess I'll just need to bold this so the idiots who believe this can see it. Another Meltzer mark obliterated. |
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- MELTZER: His turn was disgusting and exploitive like most of WWE (spoilers)
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