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Why didn't he just use his established gimmick for the angle?
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Iran and Iraq don't like each other IRL. So if he just stayed on as Iranian Iron Shiek whilst being an Iraqi Colonel, shit would've hit the fan.
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I think Vince genuinely wanted to pass him off as a new guy and thought fans would buy into it. I'm pretty sure it took a while before he was even acknowledged on commentary as the former Iron Sheik.
The third guy in the group, Adnan Al-Kaissie, had also been in WWWF years before and was never acknowledged as such, even though he was a former Tag Team Champion.
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He may be the only WWE champion in history to have been given a new character. I'm glad they at least acknowledged at some point that he used to wrestle as the Iron Sheik.
It's interesting that he debuted immediately following WrestleMania. Gorilla Monsoon made the statement at the end of WrestleMania VII that the Gulf War was finally over with Sgt. Slaughter's defeat. Yet, instead of dropping the angle there, they brought in a second manager. I don't begrudge the Sheik getting work, and it was nice to see him again, but one has to wonder why they continued to milk a war which had long since ended. |
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Man I was about 9 when Col. Mustafa turned up and I was like 'man that guy looks like The Iron Sheik but he has a different name, hell of a coincidence though'.
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Back then we had a bunch of character changes and No one really made a fuss about it. We also didn't have weekly live shows, it was just recap shows on Saturday morning.
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Skye Reynolds posted...
It's interesting that he debuted immediately following WrestleMania. Gorilla Monsoon made the statement at the end of WrestleMania VII that the Gulf War was finally over with Sgt. Slaughter's defeat. Top face is the real American hulk hogan. Pre new generation the WWF loved their tag team main events. Their fan base is largely patriotic white American trash. It's really not surprising they kept the angle running, flair hadn't arrived yet leaving a void at top heel contenders. Although they should have just had the undertaker feud here and let taker have the belt through SvS
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WarGreymon77 posted...
Did the people at the time buy that he wasn't The Iron Sheik? I was a baby, I think. I don't remember anyone I knew caring much, but I was just a kiddo. I was more upset about the guy from GI Joe cartoons (Sarge) being an ultra heel. I mean, gimmick changes happened a lot and you just kinda went with it rather than run to social media to see a bunch of randoms freaking out about trivial details. I guess if you need an explanation, they were all turn-coats from various enemies of Iraq that banded together to ally with who they thought (heel thinking) was the superior side of the Gulf War.
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snoochtonooch posted...
Although they should have just had the undertaker feud here and let taker have the belt through SvS Actually, that's the funny thing about the Hogan/Slaughter feud. They needed time for Undertaker to become a main eventer. Had they gone straight to having Undertaker as Hogan's opponent, he would've have lost at SummerSlam and likely gone the way of a monster heel like Earthquake. As unnecessary as it was to continue the feud with Slaughter half a year after the war's end, it may be the thing which made it possible for Undertaker to become a lasting main event player. |
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TundraKing87 posted...
It was such a god awful gimmick and angle. Nearly gutted the company. Just horrendous. Bit much. The Industry had other problems at this point.
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Around the same time, they brought Tony Atlas back as Samba Simba.
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bwtowne23 posted...
I had no clue when I was young Same. Although I didn't watch WWF when Iron Sheik was big which could explain why. I'm sure a lot of other young fans didn't either which is why WWF could pull it off.
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They should've had Jake turn heel in late 1990, given him the title win, and then fed him to Hogan at WM. We could've avoided both the Slaughter angle and the stupid Blindfold match as a result.
Sheik could've returned under his familiar name and revived the feud between himself and face Slaughter.
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Unlike nowadays, when fans try to hijack shows by chanting "Goldberg" during Rybacks initial run and "Albert" at a debuting Tensai, fans back then really didn't care if an established character changed gimmicks, as long as they were entertained.
And if you look back, it took a lot less to keep the audience entertained back then, because they understood what the show was and got caught up in it, and weren't trying to put themselves over.
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Hunter_Helmsley posted...
They should've had Jake turn heel in late 1990, given him the title win, and then fed him to Hogan at WM. We could've avoided both the Slaughter angle and the stupid Blindfold match as a result. After Vince pussed out on Hogan/Jake in 1986, There's no guarantee he'd want it in 1990, even IF people were getting sick of Hogan. He didn't want Hogan booed.
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The thing that gets me about Hogan/Roberts is that it had no followup.
Hogan got DDT'd on the Snake Pit and they never so much as had a televised match where Hogan got his revenge. They had two house show matches -- the of which had a brief clip play during a television broadcast in order to hype up the rematch -- but they never really have Hogan a full fledged televised revenge. At the very least, I would've put them on opposite sides of a tag team. You do not knock out the main guy and walk away without some kind of payback. |
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I'm sure it didn't help Vince, nor Hogan's ego that Jake was getting cheered as a heel over a babyface Hogan at that time.
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Skye Reynolds posted...
The thing that gets me about Hogan/Roberts is that it had no followup. One thing that came out of that Snake Pit is that they ended up turning Jake face pretty soon after that.
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dragon_suplex_x posted...
I'm sure it didn't help Vince, nor Hogan's ego that Jake was getting cheered as a heel over a babyface Hogan at that time. To be fair, if Vince knew then what he knows now, he probably would have turned Hogan heel after Mania 6.
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dragon_suplex_x posted...
I'm sure it didn't help Vince, nor Hogan's ego that Jake was getting cheered as a heel over a babyface Hogan at that time. Vince was also scared to have Hogan go up against Canadian heels on their home turf just in case the crowd dare boo.
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BiggWillieStylk posted...
dragon_suplex_x posted...I'm sure it didn't help Vince, nor Hogan's ego that Jake was getting cheered as a heel over a babyface Hogan at that time. I dont think Hogan at that point would've allowed it.
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Warrior was meant to be a replacement for Hogan, but he became unreasonable after becoming a huge draw. He felt he should be making Hogan money the money he became champion and things never got better from there. Honestly, I don't think they could have replaced Hulk Hogan much sooner than they did.
The best replacement for Hogan would have been Randy Savage, but I don't think they wanted to pass him the ball. Everyone either wasn't in a position to be a main eventer player yet or had their own demons which they were battling with. |
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Brooklyn_Adopt posted...
BiggWillieStylk posted...dragon_suplex_x posted...I'm sure it didn't help Vince, nor Hogan's ego that Jake was getting cheered as a heel over a babyface Hogan at that time. Thanks to Bischoff, Hogan's ego was worse in WCW than it ever was in WWE, and he allowed it there.
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Warrior was meant to be a replacement for Hogan, but he became unreasonable after becoming a huge draw. He felt he should be making Hogan money the money he became champion and things never got better from there. Honestly, I don't think they could have replaced Hulk Hogan much sooner than they did. Randy Savage had plenty of his own demons. They passed him the ball again in 1992 and he self-destructed rather quickly. |
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^ The Joke is after him, they gave it to Flair who had balance issues and fucked almost every finish!
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