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Should Benoit in the Hall of Fame?

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Vlugge_Japie 6 days ago#1
Should Benoit in the Hall of Fame? - Results (154 votes)
Yes. WWE should praise his skills and brush over the whole murder thing.
22.08%
34
No, His murder is way more important than his skills
72.73%
112
No. He was a midcarder at best
5.19%
8
This poll is now closed.
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truffleshuffles 6 days ago#2
never
Darkel_Low 6 days ago#3
Imagine someone coming out to induct Benoit, and talk about his career.

Imagine someone coming out to accept on Benoit's behalf, and what they might say.

He's never going in.
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chrisat928 6 days ago#4
Brush over the murder of his wife and young child. 

f*** you.
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BiggWillieStylk 6 days ago#5
Whether or not you think he was responsible for his actions, or whether or not you think he was that good, you have to realize that inducting him into the WWE HOF would be a PR nightmare.
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Hardcore_Adult 6 days ago#6
Silently, no picture if he had to be.
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BiggWillieStylk 6 days ago#7
Hardcore_Adult posted...
Silently, no picture if he had to be.

I still say they could have snuck him in with the Horsemen.
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AlCalavicci 6 days ago#8
BiggWillieStylk posted...
Whether or not you think he was responsible for his actions, or whether or not you think he was that good, you have to realize that inducting him into the WWE HOF would be a PR nightmare.


Not just this, but his actions in his final days could have and arguably almost directly lead to the fall of the wrestling industry.
hellslinger 6 days ago#9
lol no, not even f***ing close.
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EricDent1 6 days ago#10
Who cares about the WWE Hall of Fame?
He's already in the Pro Wrestling Illustated Hall of Fame (IIRC).
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nastynate3118 6 days ago#11
As a father of a little 2 year old daughter, absolutely f***ing not. He murdered an innocent child.
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truffleshuffles 6 days ago#12
nastynate3118 posted...
As a father of a little 2 year old daughter, absolutely f***ing not. He murdered an innocent child.

"But, but, but he was good at wrestling."
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The Top Crusader 5 days ago#13
I get so caught up in the murder thing, I forget the good point TC has. 

Assuming he had retired instead of the entire double murder/suicide thing, I honestly don't see him being in the HoF anyway. >_> Solid mid carder who could put on some really good matches, but unless it was an induction with the Horsemen, eh.

Of course they have all sorts of midcarders in, so, whatever, he'd probably end up in anyway, but I don't really consider his career HoF worthy.
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gldoorii 5 days ago#14
Sure why not? It's not like it actually exists anyways.
mrlowrider 5 days ago#15
You're stupid for several reasons if you think he should be in
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mrlowrider 5 days ago#16
BiggWillieStylk posted...
Hardcore_Adult posted...
Silently, no picture if he had to be.

I still say they could have snuck him in with the Horsemen.

Even here he's not a hall of famer as a horseman

Unless you think Mongo should go in, or Virgil with the NWO
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mrlowrider 5 days ago#17
truffleshuffles posted...
nastynate3118 posted...
As a father of a little 2 year old daughter, absolutely f***ing not. He murdered an innocent child.

"But, but, but he was good at wrestling."
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Yeah but, like, he was really good
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 5 days ago#18
No. Hell no.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy 5 days ago#19
At this point I feel like they shouldn't try to edit him out of older broadcasts and stuff like that. We should be able to search for him on the Network... but they don't ever have to mention him in programming anymore.
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PM0US3 5 days ago#20
This boards obsession with Benoit is bordering on creepy and offensive. Feel like the main reason people talk about him so much is because they know it's not really ok.
Darkel_Low 5 days ago#21
PM0US3 posted...
Feel like the main reason people talk about him so much is because they know it's not really ok.


Why wouldn't it be okay for us to talk about him? I know WWE has their policy but there was no law passed, and he's not against the TOS for this board.
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The Popo 5 days ago#22
The Top Crusader posted...
I get so caught up in the murder thing, I forget the good point TC has. 

Assuming he had retired instead of the entire double murder/suicide thing, I honestly don't see him being in the HoF anyway. >_> Solid mid carder who could put on some really good matches, but unless it was an induction with the Horsemen, eh.

Of course they have all sorts of midcarders in, so, whatever, he'd probably end up in anyway, but I don't really consider his career HoF worthy.


He held a major belt and main evented Mania. Most of those people are in. 

That said, never.
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ItsVinceRusso 5 days ago#23
The Top Crusader posted...
I get so caught up in the murder thing, I forget the good point TC has. 

Assuming he had retired instead of the entire double murder/suicide thing, I honestly don't see him being in the HoF anyway. >_> Solid mid carder who could put on some really good matches, but unless it was an induction with the Horsemen, eh.

Of course they have all sorts of midcarders in, so, whatever, he'd probably end up in anyway, but I don't really consider his career HoF worthy.


this is a stupid post. arguably one of the best in-ring workers to ever live, main evented wrestlemania, one of the only wwe and wcw triple crown winners. 

that said, yeah never.
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PM0US3 5 days ago#24
Darkel_Low posted...
PM0US3 posted...
Feel like the main reason people talk about him so much is because they know it's not really ok.


Why wouldn't it be okay for us to talk about him? I know WWE has their policy but there was no law passed, and he's not against the TOS for this board.

It's not socially acceptable and it could reasonably be considered offensive or trolling to bring him up to the extent people do here.
BiggWillieStylk 5 days ago#25
mrlowrider posted...
BiggWillieStylk posted...
Hardcore_Adult posted...
Silently, no picture if he had to be.

I still say they could have snuck him in with the Horsemen.

Even here he's not a hall of famer as a horseman

Unless you think Mongo should go in, or Virgil with the NWO

Eh, I don't know which is worse between Steve McMichael and Paul Roma.
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Darkel_Low 5 days ago#26
PM0US3 posted...
Darkel_Low posted...
PM0US3 posted...
Feel like the main reason people talk about him so much is because they know it's not really ok.


Why wouldn't it be okay for us to talk about him? I know WWE has their policy but there was no law passed, and he's not against the TOS for this board.

It's not socially acceptable and it could reasonably be considered offensive or trolling to bring him up to the extent people do here.


Depends on the topic whether it's trolling or not. I could make a troll topic about any wrestler though, Benoit isn't exclusive to that sort of thing. 

And who cares whether something is "socially acceptable" or not.
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Krystalcyanide 5 days ago#27
OJ Simpson killed two people and was still inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame
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Muflaggin 5 days ago#28
You judge his career. Not his personal life. Yes he should be in. There's plenty of unsavory types in there already.

Doesn't matter though because the HOF is a f***ing joke.
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Darkel_Low 5 days ago#29
Krystalcyanide posted...
OJ Simpson killed two people and was still inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame


No. He was inducted into the hall of fame, and then he killed two people.
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nastynate3118 5 days ago#30
Muflaggin posted...
You judge his career. Not his personal life. Yes he should be in. There's plenty of unsavory types in there already.

Doesn't matter though because the HOF is a f***ing joke.


Aside from the fact that his actions almost led to the destruction of the industry...so even the "he was a good wrestler/judge him on his career" argument doesn't work.
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BiggWillieStylk 5 days ago#31
Krystalcyanide posted...
OJ Simpson killed two people and was still inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame

Inducted before the murders.
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Nicodimus 5 days ago#32
His in-ring body of work merits it easily, but WWE can't do it because that would just be horrible PR.
Less is more.
the_cajun88 5 days ago#33
BiggWillieStylk posted...
Krystalcyanide posted...
OJ Simpson killed two people and was still inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame

Inducted before the murders.


why don't they just take him out, then
BudDupree48 5 days ago#34
absolutely not, and he was one of my favorites. I remember the disbelief of the situation, i just couldn't understand it.
Jeff AKA Snoopy 5 days ago#35
Here is the thing. 

Being inducted into the HOF means a ceremony... a celebration of the LIFE of the person. 

How do you celebrate the life of Benoit?
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mrlowrider 5 days ago#36
the_cajun88 posted...
BiggWillieStylk posted...
Krystalcyanide posted...
OJ Simpson killed two people and was still inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame

Inducted before the murders.


why don't they just take him out, then

Go ask them
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Nicodimus 5 days ago#37
Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Here is the thing. 

Being inducted into the HOF means a ceremony... a celebration of the LIFE of the person. 

How do you celebrate the life of Benoit?


I think it means celebrating the career in whatever sport the person is in, not the life.
Less is more.
the_cajun88 5 days ago#38
mrlowrider posted...
the_cajun88 posted...
BiggWillieStylk posted...
Krystalcyanide posted...
OJ Simpson killed two people and was still inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame

Inducted before the murders.


why don't they just take him out, then

Go ask them


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pycho316 5 days ago#39
"I mean yea he murdered people.... but have you seen the intensity he'd put on those snap suplexes?" - PWB 

Speaking as a huge Benoit fan, I'm still always amused when this topic comes up.
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Vivi0198 5 days ago#40
On one hand he is the greatest wrestler of all time on the other hand no way in hell does he get in.

It is what it is.
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BaronNugget 5 days ago#41
JR summed it up best.

His talents, skill, accomplishments in the ring match a Hall Of Fame career. Absolutely. But I think he took all those opportunities away with the last 24 hours or so of his life."
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BudDupree48 5 days ago#42
BaronNugget posted...
JR summed it up best.

His talents, skill, accomplishments in the ring match a Hall Of Fame career. Absolutely. But I think he took all those opportunities away with the last 24 hours or so of his life."
The Kamikaze 5 days ago#43
incredible athlete, maybe THE BEST between those ropes, but he is not bearable
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BiggWillieStylk 5 days ago#44
nastynate3118 posted...
Muflaggin posted...
You judge his career. Not his personal life. Yes he should be in. There's plenty of unsavory types in there already.

Doesn't matter though because the HOF is a f***ing joke.


Aside from the fact that his actions almost led to the destruction of the industry...so even the "he was a good wrestler/judge him on his career" argument doesn't work.

That's going at least a little overboard, I would think.
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ghettorevival 5 days ago#45
it's the wwe hall of fame, not the life hall of fame. you have to be able to compartmentalize. to honor his contributions to WWE is not to condone any actions in his lifetime other than becoming a pro wrestler 

it's still too soon but one day it'll be fine
hellslinger 5 days ago#46
BaronNugget posted...
JR summed it up best.

His talents, skill, accomplishments in the ring match a Hall Of Fame career. Absolutely. But I think he took all those opportunities away with the last 24 hours or so of his life."


This, any good he did was 100% wiped away with his final actions.

ghettorevival posted...
it's the wwe hall of fame, not the life hall of fame. you have to be able to compartmentalize. to honor his contributions to WWE is not to condone any actions in his lifetime other than becoming a pro wrestler 

it's still too soon but one day it'll be fine


If the reason he no longer was with the WWE was solely drug related he'd be in. f***, even if he just committed suicide he'd be in. You can compartmentalize those things with this career. What he actually did is so much bigger it invades literally everything relating to him. You cannot have his career without the last days of his life, its literally impossible with him murdering his wife and child.
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Muflaggin 5 days ago#47
nastynate3118 posted...
Muflaggin posted...
You judge his career. Not his personal life. Yes he should be in. There's plenty of unsavory types in there already.

Doesn't matter though because the HOF is a f***ing joke.


Aside from the fact that his actions almost led to the destruction of the industry...so even the "he was a good wrestler/judge him on his career" argument doesn't work.

lol no they didn't. Did OJ almost lead to the destruction of the NFL? No. And that was a FAR bigger story.
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pycho316 5 days ago#48
Muflaggin posted...
lol no they didn't. Did OJ almost lead to the destruction of the NFL? No. And that was a FAR bigger story.


While that's a truthful statement I still feel like that's a bad comparison. Football isn't this niche hobby that's seen as appealing to weirdos and degenerates. It's the most popular sport in the United States and loved by dude bros all across the country (not even criticizing; I love football personally but it's definitely a "bro" sport). Wrestling is, to mainstream America, a freakshow where people pretend fight and people who watch it are hicks and inbred West Virginia hillbillies. 

When OJ Simpson kills his wife and her friend it's not seen as representative of football. He's just a guy who killed some people who happened to play football. When Benoit killed his wife and son, it's seen as "Well are we really surprised? One of those wrasslers killed people? Those f***ers are unstable weirdos" 

Benoit's crime had a MUCH bigger impact on pro wrestling than OJ's crime had on football. OJ represented himself. Benoit represented wrestling. Is that right? Is that fair? Of course not but it's what happened.
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blingbling078 5 days ago#49
Joke topic
gamestunner 5 days ago#50
Benoit was trash. He wasn't getting in even if he didn't murder his family.
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    Galcian 5 days ago#51
    Eh I'm still suspicious about the whole thing. Him being set up/killed by hitman doesn't seem impossible, especially given how everyone loved him. He was too positive it seemed



    Chris Benoit had excellent in ring skills and his contributions should be recognized. If he was indeed guilty however then I guess WWE's current conduct is best. Even then I would say it was a result more of brain going crazy through concussions
    mrlowrider 5 days ago#52
    How did it take 51 posts for the conspiracy theorists
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    Junior Jericho 5 days ago#53
    Nice attempt at trolling TC.
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    BiggWillieStylk 5 days ago#54
    Galcian posted...
    Eh I'm still suspicious about the whole thing. Him being set up/killed by hitman doesn't seem impossible, especially given how everyone loved him. He was too positive it seemed



    Chris Benoit had excellent in ring skills and his contributions should be recognized. If he was indeed guilty however then I guess WWE's current conduct is best. Even then I would say it was a result more of brain going crazy through concussions

    I don't know where Hornswoggle's head is at, but I've heard from others who were close to Benoit that said that they did notice something different about him. Of course most of them only noticed in hindsight, but they did notice.
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    SmashBurb 5 days ago#55
    John Wayne Gacy was a great clown.

    Forget the murders and honor him for his excellent clown work.
    mrlowrider 5 days ago#56
    SmashBurb posted...
    John Wayne Gacy was a great clown.

    Forget the murders and honor him for his excellent clown work.

    Think of all the children he made smile!
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    PyramidHead88 5 days ago#57
    Second option. I loved his in-ring work, he was as good as anybody IMO. But you just can't induct him. Think of the message that would send to Nancy's family.
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    Scorsese2002 5 days ago#58
    Sure, why not?
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    mrlowrider 5 days ago#59
    Scorsese2002 posted...
    Sure, why not?

    lol I hate wrestling fans
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    darkrain108 4 days ago#60
    Just induct pegasus kid
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