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Meltzer gave Okada/Omega III 6 stars and Okada/Naito 5.75 stars bringing The Cleaner's total of 5 star matches to five, equally the tally racked up by WWE in its history.
Of course, Kenny is still behind the Ace of the Universe with eight, and The Rainmaker with seven, but he WILL continue to rack up MOTF candidates. One can only wonder how WWE will respond to the ALL TIME GREAT wrestling going on in Japan! |
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same as they always do, putting on inferior wrestling and making more money
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ad_Talking_He posted...
same as they always do, putting on inferior wrestling and making more money Why do WWE marks care about this?! I'm a WRESTLING FAN not an investor, I don't care how much money a promotion is making. I'm entertained by what's happening on my TV screen, not someone else's bank account! |
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why do wwe marks care about this when you’ve literally just wondered what wwe’s response will be
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I'm hoping that WWE's response is it to respond with some TOP QUALITY wrestling and a STELLAR show at Summerslam, not to point to a SPREADSHEET!
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but the people that make things happen in wwe don’t care what anyone else is doing, and they’re not arsed about putting on good matches, if any matches are good that’s just happenstance.
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Man those matches were all really great but this guy has totally killed the legitimacy of his ratings. He used to say he didn't like giving a lot of 5 stars because it devalues a 5 star match. Well now he's completely devalued everything. Lol. I would say okada Omega 3 and Naito Omega were 5 star matches. I'm not convinced the first two Omega okada matches we're even 5 stars. 4.75 probably. Match 2 felt very forced to be a 60 minute match. A lot of bad psychology spots like okada hitting 2 straight rain makers. Then just standing there with his hands on his hips walking around the ring. Like dude go for the pin. I know it's one thing but if you're gonna give these matches 6 stars every single thing has to be perfect.
And I love Omega but he can have iffy psychology at times. But Naito is the best out of all of them. I mean njpw does have much better wrestling. But WWE was never about the wrestling except maybe the 80s. They're an entertainment product and they never shy away from that. That's why Vince doesn't call them wrestlers. WCW always had the better wrestling. Look at Meltzers ratings. He always gave them higher ratings. It does seem like Dave hates the sports Entertainment aspect of wrestling. Which is weird. Because pro wrestling is fake. It needs an added element to be invested in. Or else it's play fighting. And I got UFC and bellator for fighting.
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
I'm hoping that WWE's response is it to respond with some TOP QUALITY wrestling and a STELLAR show at Summerslam, not to point to a SPREADSHEET! WWE could not possibly give less of a s*** about what any other company is doing lol.
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Kenny Omega doesn't mean anything before he actually makes it in the WWE.
Before all of that, he is just another indy guy.
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I thought he was Big Money Meltzer
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Worm199 posted...
Kenny Omega doesn't mean anything before he actually makes it in the WWE. Sure pal, the guy who has SINGLE HANDEDLY revolutionised the wrestling industry isn't anything until he goes to be ANOTHER COG IN VINCE'S CORPORATE MACHINE! lilJoe457 posted... Man those matches were all really great but this guy has totally killed the legitimacy of his ratings. He used to say he didn't like giving a lot of 5 stars because it devalues a 5 star match. Well now he's completely devalued everything. Real talk, I think he wrote himself into a corner when he saw Okada/Omega and decided it was the best match he'd ever seen and nothing was going to top it so gave it 6. Then they did it twice. |
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Still no 5* matches, these are some big money ribs
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I watched Omega/Okada 1 and 3. Both were really good matches 1 had some seriously iffy psychology but I found 3 to be a perfect match.
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Vivi0198 posted...
I watched Omega/Okada 1 and 3. Both were really good matches 1 had some seriously iffy psychology but I found 3 to be a perfect match. 2 is really good, I went 3 > 2 > 1 but most people have 2 as the best, including Dodgy Dave himself. (He went 6.25 lmao) Even though they went the full hour, the pacing was much better than 1. |
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Worm199 posted...
Kenny Omega doesn't mean anything before he actually makes it in the WWE. |
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Vivi0198 posted...
Both were really good matches 1 had some seriously iffy psychology What was iffy about it IYO?
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He rated Omega/Okada 3 over Omega/Naito 2 which is the biggest problem I have with this whole situation tbh.
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At least WWE tried to respond to Okada/Omega with Cena/AJ at Royal Rumble even though they failed, they've just completely rolled over and gave up at this point. There's not a match on the Summerslam card that could even possibly compete.
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DizzyTechno posted...
At least WWE tried to respond to Okada/Omega with Cena/AJ at Royal Rumble even though they failed, they've just completely rolled over and gave up at this point. There's not a match on the Summerslam card that could even possibly compete. I think Big Cass vs Big Show will surprise you
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
Vivi0198 posted...I watched Omega/Okada 1 and 3. Both were really good matches 1 had some seriously iffy psychology but I found 3 to be a perfect match. Me and a buddy watched match 2 with lag. Even with the constant lag it felt like it flew by compared to match 1. I would give it a slight edge over matcb 3. Would definitely say match 1 was the lesser of the three.
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Before wondering what WWE's response is gonna be, my first thought is always "Why the hell do I always have to read about NJPW stuff on the WWE board"..
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ad_Talking_He posted...
same as they always do, putting on inferior wrestling and making more money Yeah, more money while they cut the pyro. It's like me becoming more rich by not eating pizza any more.
I'm leaving. No, not the site. This topic, you idiot.
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Who cares. By this time next year Omega will be in NXT and all you Smarks will hate him.
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CrimsonGear80 posted...
Who cares. By this time next year Omega will be in NXT and all you Smarks will hate him. They'll be really sad when their precious Indy darling finally learns how to work
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CrimsonGear80 posted...
Who cares. By this time next year Omega will be in NXT and all you Smarks will hate him. I actually see this happening. Also I'd be down for Oakda coming in and being a pure baby face ala Ricky Steamboat.
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
keijikicksass posted...Before wondering what WWE's response is gonna be, my first thought is always "Why the hell do I always have to read about NJPW stuff on the WWE board".. Hmmm...the point seems to have been lost on you, but without resorting to name calling I'll put it this way. How many topics about WWE pop up on the Puro boards? Coming on the WWE board and spouting your Japan praise is the only way you folks get a topic past 10 pages.
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CrimsonGear80 posted...
Who cares. By this time next year Omega will be in NXT and all you Smarks will hate him. Omega has already said he refuses to go to NXT though! ILL INFORMED! Vivi0198 posted... I actually see this happening. Also I'd be down for Oakda coming in and being a pure baby face ala Ricky Steamboat. Big Money Kaz (that's what his friends call him) won't give up the most lucrative contract in the history of Japan to wrestle Jinder Mahal, sorry pal but if you want to see the ALL TIME GOAT, you need to cough up your ¥999 a month. keijikicksass posted... Hmmm...the point seems to have been lost on you, but without resorting to name calling I'll put it this way. How many topics about WWE pop up on the Puro boards? Coming on the WWE board and spouting your Japan praise is the only way you folks get a topic past 10 pages. YOU FOLKS? I thought you weren't going to resort to name calling!? And this topic is about WWE and their comparative lack of 5 STAR MATCHES compared to the GAIJIN GOAT Kenny Omega. |
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In the WWE he couldn't have these type of matches. I'm glad he stood in NJPW.
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keijikicksass posted...
Hmmm...the point seems to have been lost on you, but without resorting to name calling I'll put it this way. How many topics about WWE pop up on the Puro boards? Coming on the WWE board and spouting your Japan praise is the only way you folks get a topic past 10 pages. That guy's wrong, but your ill informed passive aggressive jab at our page count is pretty juvenile as well. Both the MotY 2017 and NJPW topics are well over '10 pages' for your information, that being said I can understand your irritation since the nitwit is shoving this s*** down your throat and then calling you an imbecile. Ignorant sure, but TC has proven to be the fool who likes to be given a reason to insult the WWE board, and I apologize on his behalf for that much.
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BloodPump posted...
That guy's wrong, but your ill informed passive aggressive jab at our page count is pretty juvenile as well. Both the MotY 2017 and NJPW topics are well over '10 pages' for your information, Not to be a dick, but yeah they are if you have it set on not 50 posts per page. They sit at 8 pages otherwise. |
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BloodPump posted...That guy's wrong, but your ill informed passive aggressive jab at our page count is pretty juvenile as well. Both the MotY 2017 and NJPW topics are well over '10 pages' for your information, I set my post count to 20 a page because its more convenient for me. You're stating facts so I wouldn't call you a dick, but as far as I'm concerned the page count for the NJPW topic is 19.
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BloodPump posted...
That guy's wrong, but your ill informed passive aggressive jab at our page count is pretty juvenile as well. Both the MotY 2017 and NJPW topics are well over '10 pages' for your information, that being said I can understand your irritation since the nitwit is shoving this s*** down your throat and then calling you an imbecile. Ignorant sure, but TC has proven to be the fool who likes to be given a reason to insult the WWE board, and I apologize on his behalf for that much. Shut up kid, the grown ups are talking. |
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I'm 29 years old...
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Wow, embarrassing.
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BloodPump posted...
Lep106317 posted...BloodPump posted...That guy's wrong, but your ill informed passive aggressive jab at our page count is pretty juvenile as well. Both the MotY 2017 and NJPW topics are well over '10 pages' for your information, Haha fair enough. That was a really petty and dumb point to make anyway and I don't give a s*** either way just thought i'd point that out. |
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Omega has already said he refuses to go to NXT though! ILL INFORMED!
how many have said they would never work for WWE and have kept that promise? Yeah, it's all well and good until that contract offer...
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
Omega has already said he refuses to go to NXT though! ILL INFORMED! After what AJ Styles said & did, I don't think just saying "I'm not going to WWE" is enough.
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O. Mega v Neeto was way better than O. Mega v Kazuki Oakadda, Meltzer is an idiot
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I saw Okada - Omega 1 & 2 and while they were epic matches, rating them over 5 stars just looked stupid as f*** coming from him. I get that the point was to imply those matches were on such a high level that it would be a disservice to rate them 5 and compare them to the previous 5* matches but when you keep doing it, it makes the whole scale look like a parody almost. Plus im not afraid to say the matches are a bit overrated too. Great for sure but you're not gonna j*** your pants unless you're a huge puroresu mark like Dave is.
Looks like I need to check out the third match and Naito's match next.
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The Naito match was awesome. The Okada match was the same s***; stiff slaps, about 20 dangerous looking neck/head bumps, 183 rainmakers *yawn*
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CrimsonGear80 posted...
how many have said they would never work for WWE and have kept that promise? Yeah, it's all well and good until that contract offer... Omega and I said NXT, not WWE. He refuses to do developmental. |
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BloodPump posted...
That guy's wrong, but your ill informed passive aggressive jab at our page count is pretty juvenile as well. Both the MotY 2017 and NJPW topics are well over '10 pages' for your information, that being said I can understand your irritation since the nitwit is shoving this s*** down your throat and then calling you an imbecile. Ignorant sure, but TC has proven to be the fool who likes to be given a reason to insult the WWE board, and I apologize on his behalf for that much. You seem like a nice guy. Everybody knows that fella is a major troll so for most times, most people don't take him seriously. But sometimes when some of our moods are not right, had a bad day or something, we ended up getting baited in even though we usually won't. |
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He's given out 6 star matches (and above) before.
The Okada v Omega trilogy I feel got better with each match because the story continues to progress through each encounter. I think their 4th will be the best. It needs to happen before Omega (and the Bucks) decide to jump ship.
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Also this is the thing about working in NJPW that a lot of them dig:
The lack of travel.
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do_ob_tpkillr posted...
You seem like a nice guy. Everybody knows that fella is a major troll so for most times, most people don't take him seriously. As if anyone takes you seriously
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It seems like Meltzer's ratings have actually caused the matches to be less appreciated. They are tremendous, and have something for just about everyone, but it seems like this is where him being a critic and his own subjective interests really come into question. Even if I don't think they are the best matches I've ever seen I still would watch these guys lock up again. Personally I like New Japan, but there are times where they just have a string of big spots that don't build drama as well for me as if these moments were spread out with more psychology.
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WWE will respond by eventually hiring Omega which will drop Omega's star ratings to 4.75 or less even if he has the widely agreed upon Match of the Century.
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Once WWE beat WCW, Vince used WWE as his own EWR, since money wasn't exactly a problem any more.
Now Vince is growing disillusioned, Triple H is taking more of a role. So how much of a f*** do you think Triple H gives about Japan and the internet? He masturbates over early-80s all-American wrestling shows, not 21st Century foreign ones.Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep tryingI mean except HHH loves the internet. DA f*** Bro?http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-4fgojx.gif - #1 P4P
Nachos = $3, Nachos con queso = $5, Champion Dos Nachos = PricelessTrulyEpicLawls posted...Once WWE beat WCW, Vince used WWE as his own EWR, since money wasn't exactly a problem any more.
Now Vince is growing disillusioned, Triple H is taking more of a role. So how much of a f*** do you think Triple H gives about Japan and the internet? He masturbates over early-80s all-American wrestling shows, not 21st Century foreign ones.
Explains why he made his father in law throw money at The Artist The Rockstar.
Gedo masturbates over the same stuff btwdo_ob_tpkillr posted...You seem like a nice guy. Everybody knows that fella is a major troll so for most times, most people don't take him seriously.
I'm not a troll so nobody knows that, you coward.
Byuusetsu posted...WWE will respond by eventually hiring Omega which will drop Omega's star ratings to 4.75 or less even if he has the widely agreed upon Match of the Century.
WWE hasn't had a match that deserved a Big Five from Big Dave that he hasn't given five to.bigpatpunchhard posted...do_ob_tpkillr posted...
You seem like a nice guy. Everybody knows that fella is a major troll so for most times, most people don't take him seriously.
I'm not a troll so nobody knows that, you coward.
Byuusetsu posted...WWE will respond by eventually hiring Omega which will drop Omega's star ratings to 4.75 or less even if he has the widely agreed upon Match of the Century.
WWE hasn't had a match that deserved a Big Five from Big Dave that he hasn't given five to.
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Nachos = $3, Nachos con queso = $5, Champion Dos Nachos = PricelessHe did. It was the last WWE 5 star match before Punk/Cena. Bret/Austin from the same year got 5 too.(edited 2 days ago)For completeness, the other two 5 star WWE matches are HBK/Razor from WMX and Bret/Owen from Summerslam 94.Which Punk/Cena match was it that got 5*? I only saw one of them, the one where Punk actually hit a f***ing Piledriver on Cena.Welcome to LOLFAQs, where anyone who disagrees with you is a troll.
"Hahahahahahaha" - Mara AramovThe MitB one, the one you saw was the better wrestling match from a technical standpoint imo, but the storyline and the atmosphere for MitB was out of this world. WWE at it's absolute best.Man I remember watching Punk v Cena at MITB 2011 in a packed sports bar. The crowd was going insane over every single move. It was like watching sudden death in the Super Bowl between two undefeated rivals. And later that night was the season premiere of Breaking Bad S4. Good times!
Glad he gave 5 stars to those two 1997 classics. Easily two of my favorite matches ever with HIAC being number 1 (since the story it told was an 80s slasher movie but this time we cheered for the monster and rooted against the human in distress).http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-4fgojx.gif - #1 P4P
Nachos = $3, Nachos con queso = $5, Champion Dos Nachos = Priceless(edited 2 days ago)This TC has been blabbing for 21 hours.Never fear the strong, but never underestimate the weak.bigpatpunchhard posted...Bret/Owen from Summerslam 94.
Yeah that match absolutely did not deserve 5 starsI want a 6ft amazon girl to uppercut my junk - SSJGrimReaperConflict posted...bigpatpunchhard posted...
Bret/Owen from Summerslam 94.
Yeah that match absolutely did not deserve 5 stars
I think both of their 94 matches deserve 5 stars. I remember renting Summerslam 94 from a grocery store back in late 1996 and not having any idea of who was going to win that match. Along with Diesel v Razor, I was on the edge of my seat as a 10 year old who could not get enough of the drama and heat of those matches.http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-4fgojx.gif - #1 P4P
Nachos = $3, Nachos con queso = $5, Champion Dos Nachos = Pricelessbigpatpunchhard posted...CrimsonGear80 posted...
how many have said they would never work for WWE and have kept that promise? Yeah, it's all well and good until that contract offer...
Omega and I said NXT, not WWE. He refuses to do developmental.
yeah, here's how that goes:
HHH: "hey Kenny, heres a huge contract with a s***-ton of money. You start NXT next week".
Kenny: "OK, so how do you see the finish against Almas going down?""Why you eyin' my lemon drink?"
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
Bret/Owen from Summerslam 94.
Yeah that match absolutely did not deserve 5 stars
I think both of their 94 matches deserve 5 stars. I remember renting Summerslam 94 from a grocery store back in late 1996 and not having any idea of who was going to win that match. Along with Diesel v Razor, I was on the edge of my seat as a 10 year old who could not get enough of the drama and heat of those matches.
I mean Bret vs Owen wasn't a bad match per se but I think it relied entirely on the live hype factor which led to it being very repetitive and formulaic when you watch it years later. I also prefer cage matches to more about punishment, which that match was lacking in since it was strictly them consistently trying to escape the cage every five seconds. I dunno. Maybe I'm more used to the more modern style of cage matches, which was basically a no-DQ wrestling match surrounded by a cage as opposed to 'who can climb out the cage first'I want a 6ft amazon girl to uppercut my junk - SSJGrimReaperEffectAndCause posted...Worm199 posted...
Kenny Omega doesn't mean anything before he actually makes it in the WWE.
Before all of that, he is just another indy guy.
NJPW isn't an indy fed. It's a major promotion in Japan. That's like saying WCW was an indy fed because it wasn't WWF at the time.The Smiling Bandit (Strikes Again! Ha Ha Ha!)
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bigpatpunchhard posted...
Bret/Owen from Summerslam 94.
Yeah that match absolutely did not deserve 5 stars
I think both of their 94 matches deserve 5 stars. I remember renting Summerslam 94 from a grocery store back in late 1996 and not having any idea of who was going to win that match. Along with Diesel v Razor, I was on the edge of my seat as a 10 year old who could not get enough of the drama and heat of those matches.
I mean Bret vs Owen wasn't a bad match per se but I think it relied entirely on the live hype factor which led to it being very repetitive and formulaic when you watch it years later. I also prefer cage matches to more about punishment, which that match was lacking in since it was strictly them consistently trying to escape the cage every five seconds. I dunno. Maybe I'm more used to the more modern style of cage matches, which was basically a no-DQ wrestling match surrounded by a cage as opposed to 'who can climb out the cage first'
I can see where you're coming from. Admittedly I've only watched the match once since my initial viewing - on the Network when I bombed and decided to watch Taker v Taker after and was locked with an internal struggle on the kayfabe story vs the story they were actually telling.http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-4fgojx.gif - #1 P4P
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PSN Username: PyramidHead88PyramidHead88 posted...I thought the Naito match was better. I thought it was better than Okada/Omega II actually.
I agreeBa dum ts da boom!CrimsonGear80 posted...Who cares. By this time next year Omega will be in NXT and all you Smarks will hate him.
lmfao @ the very idea of smarks hating Omega if he were to jump ship.
They still fap over Shinsuke Nakamura.
There is literally nothing Omega could do to make smarks hate him.
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Worm199 posted...
Kenny Omega doesn't mean anything before he actually makes it in the WWE.
Before all of that, he is just another indy guy.
NJPW isn't an indy fed. It's a major promotion in Japan. That's like saying WCW was an indy fed because it wasn't WWF at the time.
In Japan, yes.
Problem is that none of you are Japanese. Everywhere else in the world, it's essentially indy-level.(edited 2 days ago)bigpatpunchhard posted...do_ob_tpkillr posted...
You seem like a nice guy. Everybody knows that fella is a major troll so for most times, most people don't take him seriously.
I'm not a troll so nobody knows that, you coward.
Byuusetsu posted...WWE will respond by eventually hiring Omega which will drop Omega's star ratings to 4.75 or less even if he has the widely agreed upon Match of the Century.
WWE hasn't had a match that deserved a Big Five from Big Dave that he hasn't given five to.
Benoit/Angle RR03
Bret/Owen WMX
Benoit/HBK/HHH
HBK/Taker WM24 (I think...first one)
Austin/HHH - three stages of hell
Edge/Rey vs Angle/Benoit - tag title finals
TLC 1 & 2
Cactus Jack vs Orton
HHH vs Cactus jack
AJ/Cena SS (debatable)
All of these seem basically ***** worthyHe now exists in the darkness of deletion. Brother Nero is only a vessel of flesh that is empty on the inside. I deleted everything that made him special.(edited 2 days ago)Worm199 posted...Kenny Omega doesn't mean anything before he actually makes it in the WWE.
Before all of that, he is just another indy guy.
Wrong and this notion has always been stupid, especially nowadays.Brought to you by GameFlux
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It was WM25. WM24 had Edge/Taker.I want a 6ft amazon girl to uppercut my junk - SSJGrimReaperConflict posted...bigpatpunchhard posted...
Bret/Owen from Summerslam 94.
Yeah that match absolutely did not deserve 5 stars
Not even their best match from 1994.Secretary to the B0$$
http://i.imgur.com/jrvFxBS.gifbigpatpunchhard posted...Meltzer gave Okada/Omega III 6 stars and Okada/Naito 5.75 stars bringing The Cleaner's total of 5 star matches to five, equally the tally racked up by WWE in its history.
Of course, Kenny is still behind the Ace of the Universe with eight, and The Rainmaker with seven, but he WILL continue to rack up MOTF candidates.
One can only wonder how WWE will respond to the ALL TIME GREAT wrestling going on in Japan!
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Gamefaqs: Home of mod-alts, shills, sock puppets, and mentally ill trolls(edited 1 day ago)Who came up with his rating system? 6 out of 6 stars? 4.75 stars? I doubt he's studying and dissecting the match that much that he's like "Oh, X's footing was off during that suplex, that's going to cost them a quarter of a star!"XBL: The Maverick
PSN: v_Maverick_vTequilawhatitdo posted...I mean except HHH loves the internet. DA f*** Bro?
There's nothing to suggest that. Remember when Wrestling Isn't Wrestling came out? He got spammed to hell online with people basically demand he watch it and give his reaction. Eventually he HAD to put out a vague quick tweet to get everyone to shut up even though probably he still hasn't watched it.Argument winners: calm down, troll, hater, you obviously, LOL, don't care, I'm done, actually this is funny, not wasting my time, butthurt, blocked, keep tryingbigjclassic posted...bigpatpunchhard posted...
Meltzer gave Okada/Omega III 6 stars and Okada/Naito 5.75 stars bringing The Cleaner's total of 5 star matches to five, equally the tally racked up by WWE in its history.
Of course, Kenny is still behind the Ace of the Universe with eight, and The Rainmaker with seven, but he WILL continue to rack up MOTF candidates.
One can only wonder how WWE will respond to the ALL TIME GREAT wrestling going on in Japan!
Meltzer has an admitted bias against WWE matches, so..
He's gone on record saying that he rates WWE matches lighter than NJPW matches, if Omega/Okada were having these matches in WWE they'd be even higher.ironic love for yoshi tatsuDizzyTechno posted...bigjclassic posted...
bigpatpunchhard posted...
Meltzer gave Okada/Omega III 6 stars and Okada/Naito 5.75 stars bringing The Cleaner's total of 5 star matches to five, equally the tally racked up by WWE in its history.
Of course, Kenny is still behind the Ace of the Universe with eight, and The Rainmaker with seven, but he WILL continue to rack up MOTF candidates.
One can only wonder how WWE will respond to the ALL TIME GREAT wrestling going on in Japan!
Meltzer has an admitted bias against WWE matches, so..
He's gone on record saying that he rates WWE matches lighter than NJPW matches, if Omega/Okada were having these matches in WWE they'd be even higher.
I still don't believe this. Angle vs Michaels WM21, Angle & Benoit vs Mysterio & Edge No Mercy, Bret vs Owen WM 10 and Taker vs Michaels WM 25 certainly were good enough to be 5s otherwise. Also want to mention Michaels vs Mankind Mindgames but we all know the ending run in dq f***ed that match over.Not Changing This Until Nakamura Becomes WWE Champ 4/5/2016
Sevendown(latest act:8): http://www.writerscafe.org/writing/Blood_Pump/1818846/(edited 1 day ago)bigjclassic posted...bigpatpunchhard posted...
Meltzer gave Okada/Omega III 6 stars and Okada/Naito 5.75 stars bringing The Cleaner's total of 5 star matches to five, equally the tally racked up by WWE in its history.
Of course, Kenny is still behind the Ace of the Universe with eight, and The Rainmaker with seven, but he WILL continue to rack up MOTF candidates.
One can only wonder how WWE will respond to the ALL TIME GREAT wrestling going on in Japan!
I'm full of s***.
That's all you actually had to say.LightSnake: "Sigh....I might've been wrong about a lot this time."
Terra-enforcer: "You were right. I was wrong. I'm a filthy welcher."CrimsonGear80 posted...bigpatpunchhard posted...
CrimsonGear80 posted...
how many have said they would never work for WWE and have kept that promise? Yeah, it's all well and good until that contract offer...
Omega and I said NXT, not WWE. He refuses to do developmental.
yeah, here's how that goes:
HHH: "hey Kenny, heres a huge contract with a s***-ton of money. You start NXT next week".
Kenny: "OK, so how do you see the finish against Almas going down?"
he's turned them down 4 times already,once in 2014 and three times in 2015
whatever was offered then is going to have to be doubled or tripled at this point[?]
"He must've been a very important chimp."I agree with what a couple others have said here, that Meltzer rating these matches so highly kinda hurts the legitimacy of his ratings, and really brings the ratings for all matches too high. Like AJ/Cena at Royal Rumble was really good, but 4.75*? Don't know if it was that good. Imagine if Roger Ebert had all of a sudden started rating movies 5 out of 4 stars.1. wwe doesnt give a crap about njpw match quality.
2. wwe doesnt give a crap about meltzers rating.
3. this board is a joke. you piss an moan about wwe and then turn around and bash an alternative that is putting on classic matches left and right. its just further proof most of you just want to be unhappy and s*** on anything.Babirusa posted...3. this board is a joke
So f***ing leave alreadyI want a 6ft amazon girl to uppercut my junk - SSJGrimReaperWhat is motfi like chicken.supercurrymax posted...What is motf
Match of the forever.BloodPump posted...DizzyTechno posted...
bigjclassic posted...
bigpatpunchhard posted...
Meltzer gave Okada/Omega III 6 stars and Okada/Naito 5.75 stars bringing The Cleaner's total of 5 star matches to five, equally the tally racked up by WWE in its history.
Of course, Kenny is still behind the Ace of the Universe with eight, and The Rainmaker with seven, but he WILL continue to rack up MOTF candidates.
One can only wonder how WWE will respond to the ALL TIME GREAT wrestling going on in Japan!
Meltzer has an admitted bias against WWE matches, so..
He's gone on record saying that he rates WWE matches lighter than NJPW matches, if Omega/Okada were having these matches in WWE they'd be even higher.
I still don't believe this. Angle vs Michaels WM21, Angle & Benoit vs Mysterio & Edge No Mercy, Bret vs Owen WM 10 and Taker vs Michaels WM 25 certainly were good enough to be 5s otherwise. Also want to mention Michaels vs Mankind Mindgames but we all know the ending run in dq f***ed that match over.He now exists in the darkness of deletion. Brother Nero is only a vessel of flesh that is empty on the inside. I deleted everything that made him special.Can't believe this garbage made 88 posts but when I post legit criticisms of NJPW on the other feds board it gets deleted. Mods on video game message board in biased to Japanese s*** shocker.any links to these alleged 5 star matches? want to see what is so good about it"Why do you hesitate to extend the power of Macedon - your power"-Alexander The Great \_O__/ >>>> l__O__l "YES"."YES"OZ_Archangel posted...any links to these alleged 5 star matches? want to see what is so good about it
Are you willing to pay ¥999? If not, then NOOZ_Archangel posted...any links to these alleged 5 star matches? want to see what is so good about it
You can usually find them on sites like dailymotionWelcome to LOLFAQs, where anyone who disagrees with you is a troll.
"Hahahahahahaha" - Mara AramovAzumaNaroon posted...OZ_Archangel posted...
any links to these alleged 5 star matches? want to see what is so good about it
You can usually find them on sites like dailymotion
Dailymotion is a godsendHuck it chuck it footballWWE has never been about the actual wrestling though.
NJPW treats it as a sport where WWE treats it as a show and WWE fans like that.
So it doesnt surprise me that WWE only has a couple 5 star matches.The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench.
Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content.I4NRulez posted...WWE has never been about the actual wrestling though.
NJPW treats it as a sport where WWE treats it as a show and WWE fans like that.
So it doesnt surprise me that WWE only has a couple 5 star matches.
NJPW treats wrestling as a sport
SmashBurb posted...CrimsonGear80 posted...
Who cares. By this time next year Omega will be in NXT and all you Smarks will hate him.
lmfao @ the very idea of smarks hating Omega if he were to jump ship.
They still fap over Shinsuke Nakamura.
There is literally nothing Omega could do to make smarks hate him.
Lupin the 4th posted...EffectAndCause posted...
Worm199 posted...
Kenny Omega doesn't mean anything before he actually makes it in the WWE.
Before all of that, he is just another indy guy.
NJPW isn't an indy fed. It's a major promotion in Japan. That's like saying WCW was an indy fed because it wasn't WWF at the time.
In Japan, yes.
Problem is that none of you are Japanese. Everywhere else in the world, it's essentially indy-level.
I'm not American, so the WWE is an indy fedThe Self Professed Bray Wyatt of the PWB. Bo Dallas for President.
Despair will always trump hope. Kyoko Kirigiri is Anabel. Thicke Wicke. FC: 4914-3689-7500I4NRulez posted...WWE has never been about the actual wrestling though.
NJPW treats it as a sport where WWE treats it as a show and WWE fans like that.
So it doesnt surprise me that WWE only has a couple 5 star matches.
Actually this is kind of wrong. What New Japan, from my viewing experience, does is take the 'entertainment' equation of 'sports entertainment' and instead of using it in soapy-like backstage segments implements it directly into their wrestlers. One thing of note in NJPW, no one man there has the same character.
Everyone is an individual piece that meshes well with one another. This is perhaps because the talent is allowed to express themselves (that or Gedo is amazing at making characters as well as being a booking genius) while many of the WWE's guys right now can come off as being similar in one way or another, with the only thing setting them apart are hokey soapy moments (some better then others. Joe/Lesnar was an awesome feud for example, but in fairness to them Joe and Lesnar are naturally incomparable to most).
NJPW does treat the in ring product seriously, but it implements the entertainment side of Pro Wrestling a lot better then WWE does now and days. Naito vs Omega II has plenty of entertaining moments that you'd never see in an old school AJPW main event, but its never forgotten that the two are supposed to be in a wrestling match. Its truly a fusion of the best of both elements.Not Changing This Until Nakamura Becomes WWE Champ 4/5/2016
Sevendown(latest act:8): http://www.writerscafe.org/writing/Blood_Pump/1818846/(edited 1 day ago)BloodPump posted...-NJPW does treat the in ring product seriously
Yano & Taichi notwithstanding of course...Not Changing This Until Nakamura Becomes WWE Champ 4/5/2016
Sevendown(latest act:8): http://www.writerscafe.org/writing/Blood_Pump/1818846/- Boards
- Pro Wrestling: WWE
- Mad Man Meltzer does it AGAIN! Kenny Omega now has as many 5+* matches as WWE!
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