Daniel Bryan is OK to wrestle; He broke it down to Edge & Christian

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JoCrazy 1 day ago#1 Credit to Reddit user ' Sweggeh' for writing the summery. This is a long read, but Im gonna recap all the information he gave regarding his injury and how he was made to retire. This can all be found by listening to his interview today with Edge and Christian on their podcast. So his story starts with the time of his last concussion. He gets cleared by his own doctors, but that isn't enough for WWE. So first WWE and Vince in particular force him to see their hand picked experts to get testing done on his brain. So they sent him to these doctors (that aren't his own doctors which already cleared him), first of which was a concussion specialist in Phoenix. They cleared him. That wasn't enough for WWE, and he asked WWE what more they want him to do. He said he would go get a 3rd opinion. So he went to UCLA to get testing from a team of concussion specialists who had him run a lot of different tests. They cleared him. He comes back to WWE, and yet again they say no you are not cleared to go, even though 3 independent institutions had already cleared him, 2 of which were doctors WWE chose. So they send him to go get some experimental stuff done. Testing that isn't even FDA approved. They do some kind of reflex or impact testing, so they hook stuff up to his brain and test that and whatever. So he does that, and they tell him he has a lesion in a certain region on his brain. So he calls Vince, and he tells him he has this lesion on his brain. He says he was crying when he got off the phone because his career was done. And the next week Vince calls him and tells him to come to RAW in Seattle and give a retirement speech. Initially he didn't want to do it but he became convinced it was for the best. Then after everything dies down, he gets a call from one of the doctors who originally cleared him and he asks him what happened that made him retire. He tells the doctor that they found a lesion on his brain. And then the doctor tells him that in medical terminology, a lesion does not mean what it usually means. Bryan thought it meant he had a cut on his brain, but the doctor says that in medical terminology, a lesion is a very vague term. It just means that something is there. Not necessarily a cut or anything like that. Then that doctor looks at the report that said he had a lesion. And what he found was that Daniel's brain reflexes in that region were slower than they expected. Thats why in the report they wrote it in as a lesion. Now here is the really messed up part. That region of his brain had a slow reflex compared to MMA fighters and football players and athletes that they usually test at that facility. It did NOT have any reflex that is slower than what you would expect in a normal human being. And since Bryan is a performer and not really a sports person, obviously you would expect his reflex time to be closer to an average persons, not a high level sports athlete. X-Box One Gamertag: KrankDaddy - Currently playing: Mass Effect, WWE 2K17, GTA Online https://www.twitch.tv/krankdaddy & https://beam.pro/KrankDaddy stickyreportquote

JoCrazy (Topic Creator)1 day ago#2 In addition to that, they didnt have a baseline for how fast the reflex in that part of his brain used to be. So they had no way of even knowing if there was actually any damage there, or if that was just the normal speed at which that region of his brain functioned. He went to this Joe Namath institute to get more tests done and they said his brain is no different from a run of the mill college football player. He has had some concussions, but he is not a person at risk of brain damage. He has had even more testing done and from certain tests they say that now, with the time he has had out of wrestling, and with continued work and treatment, his brain could look like someone who has never even played a contact sports. And he says he is sad looking back because he feels he wasted the prime years of his career. EDIT: As some people have mentioned, DB has said he is continuing to get healthy with his treatment and he has said categorically that if he ever found a problem that legitimately made it unsafe for him to wrestle, he would not do so. Second EDIT: Daniel Bryan has also said that he understands why WWE did what they did, implying he feels WWE were only doing what they thought what was best. If people are getting the idea from this that he is implying they purposely screwed him, I don't think that is the case. X-Box One Gamertag: KrankDaddy - Currently playing: Mass Effect, WWE 2K17, GTA Online https://www.twitch.tv/krankdaddy & https://beam.pro/KrankDaddy reportquote

bigpatpunchhard 1 day ago#3 Can't wait for BRYAN DANIELSON vs KATSUYORI SHIBATA reportquote

JoCrazy (Topic Creator)1 day ago#4 Bryan already has a safer wrestling style that he created while trying to get cleared. He showed it off a few times. X-Box One Gamertag: KrankDaddy - Currently playing: Mass Effect, WWE 2K17, GTA Online https://www.twitch.tv/krankdaddy & https://beam.pro/KrankDaddy reportquote

occupine 1 day ago#5 watch all the fake doctors of the pwb to come and s*** all over bryan, saying he's still at risk The Self Professed Bray Wyatt of the PWB. Bo Dallas for President. Despair will always trump hope. Kyoko Kirigiri is Anabel. Thicke Wicke. FC: 4914-3689-7500 reportquote

lilJoe457 1 day ago#6 To me it again begins to look like they kinda wanted a reason for him to be gone with what was happening with reigns at the time. That's just my opinion.  Bryan probably knows not to take WWE for their word. He'll be gone and in njpw and Roh next year. The king of old school reportquote

JoCrazy (Topic Creator)1 day ago#7 The only people that didn't clear Bryan was non-FDA approved experimental stuff that WWE hired to tell Bryan what WWE wanted Bryan to hear.  He is cleared by various legit top doctors. When are people gonna go on his side? WWE has a shady history with doctors. I mean look what happened with Punk. X-Box One Gamertag: KrankDaddy - Currently playing: Mass Effect, WWE 2K17, GTA Online https://www.twitch.tv/krankdaddy & https://beam.pro/KrankDaddy reportquote

AzumaNaroon 1 day ago#8 occupine posted... watch all the fake doctors of the pwb to come and s*** all over bryan, saying he's still at risk Welcome to LOLFAQs, where anyone who disagrees with you is a troll. "Hahahahahahaha" - Mara Aramov reportquote

bigjclassic 1 day ago#9 It's really messed up and will ultimately burn WWE. I would let it be honestly and look forward to him in NJPW wrestling Okada. WWE obviously has a different course they want to go and have no intention of letting him be top guy in the company. Despite being the most popular star currently on the roster. PSN/steam: classicviolence Switch FC: 441991068406 3DS: 087719974865 Gamefaqs: Home of mod-alts, shills, sock puppets, and mentally ill trolls reportquote

JoCrazy (Topic Creator)1 day ago#10 bigjclassic posted... It's really messed up and will ultimately burn WWE. I would let it be honestly and look forward to him in NJPW wrestling Okada. WWE obviously has a different course they want to go and have no intention of letting him be top guy in the company. Despite being the most popular star currently on the roster. It's idiotic. They are leaving SO MUCH MONEY on the table. With the brand split, they could have Bryan on 1 brand and Roman on another. X-Box One Gamertag: KrankDaddy - Currently playing: Mass Effect, WWE 2K17, GTA Online https://www.twitch.tv/krankdaddy & https://beam.pro/KrankDaddy reportquote

Mr_arizona 1 day ago#11 Bryan is pretty much telling WWE my injury is not bad. And my contract is up soon. I will be wrestling after it ends 1 way or the other. He obviously wants it to be in WWE but if they don't want to risk it then we're gonna be seeing HAI chants in Japan. http://i.imgur.com/VBDN2Pi.gif https://wwewritten.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/r80.gif reportquote

pycho316 1 day ago#12 Alright, well firstly, thanks TC for posting this and the TL;DR version. Good recap and I actually want to listen to the whole thing now.  With that out of the way....... let me get into uber smark mode....... Maaaaaan, f*** that noise! I'm an internet smark and I think I KNOW better than Daniel Bryan and these "doctors" and so called "experts."  WWE and the dirtsheets said that Daniel Bryan is going to die and possibly murder six or eight more people if he bumps his head getting in or out of his car and I know they're right cause see Chris Benoit killed himself and 4 others due to doing the diving headbutt for 31 years straight every night. So the only logical conclusion is that Daniel Bryan has killed 1 person and hidden the body and is poised to kill more. Also there was that one doctor, Mr. Whatisface who said Bryan wasn't good for wrestling anymore. YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT CONCUSSIONS LIKE I DO, TC!!!! Bryan's death will be on your head if he dies which he will if he wants to wrestle. His death and Bri's and Birdies and Zack Ryder's death and ALL OF THEM!!!  I personally took a look at his medical report and there was something scibbled next to an EEG test he took which looked like a skull (although it could've been a stain) and that clearly means THIS MAN WILL DIE! f*** doing what makes him happy in life and all that. I played Operation once, I know how this s*** works. Bryan is dead and it's all your fault! Cancel one book and two more shall take it's place. Hail Marvel. - Reaper115 reportquote

BaronNugget 1 day ago#13 Well I was on the fence about D-Bry returning but reading this and Brie giving him permission to wrestle has convinced me that he should be aloud to return. I still think that the whole "they wanted rid of him to push Roman" is a load of tinfoil hat rubbish tho. They are probably paranoid about more bad press in regards to concussions then that Bulls*** MUFC- The Religion. Miami Dolphins: Blissfully succumb to the whirling blackness of eternal oblivion reportquote

bigpatpunchhard 1 day ago#14 BaronNugget posted... Well I was on the fence about D-Bry returning but reading this and Brie giving him permission to wrestle has convinced me that he should be aloud to return. I still think that the whole "they wanted rid of him to push Roman" is a load of tinfoil hat rubbish tho. They are probably paranoid about more bad press in regards to concussions then that Bulls*** I'm sure Bryan was waiting to hear the official opinions of the Nazi Party on whether he should be "aloud" to return. reportquote

lilJoe457 1 day ago#15 I don't think it's rubbish. WWE sent him to 3 different doctors and didn't get the answer they wanted. Then sent him to one who used non FDA approved methods to get their answer. If they were really concerned about not having another Benoit why would they go to a doctor who used non FDA approved methods? That's the wall brother! reportquote

JfAtS1O3N 1 day ago#16 bigpatpunchhard posted... BaronNugget posted... Well I was on the fence about D-Bry returning but reading this and Brie giving him permission to wrestle has convinced me that he should be aloud to return. I still think that the whole "they wanted rid of him to push Roman" is a load of tinfoil hat rubbish tho. They are probably paranoid about more bad press in regards to concussions then that Bulls*** I'm sure Bryan was waiting to hear the official opinions of the Nazi Party on whether he should be "aloud" to return. Christ man let it go. http://www.aveleyman.com/Gallery/ActorsS/69761-7922.jpg reportquote

Zack_Attackv1 1 day ago#17 *coughing fit of laughter* http://i.imgur.com/UceZZIv.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6UEgjK2.jpg reportquote

BaronNugget 1 day ago#18 lilJoe457 posted... I don't think it's rubbish. WWE sent him to 3 different doctors and didn't get the answer they wanted. Then sent him to one who used non FDA approved methods to get their answer. If they were really concerned about not having another Benoit why would they go to a doctor who used non FDA approved methods? Yeah fair point but I really don't think that they are not clearing him just so they can push Roman. I mean D-Bry is one of the most popular wrestlers this millennium, I don't think WWE would deliberately stop themselves profiting off Bryan's overness just to push one wrestler, especially now that there is 2 brands and more depth on the roster. MUFC- The Religion. Miami Dolphins: Blissfully succumb to the whirling blackness of eternal oblivion reportquote

occupine 1 day ago#19 BaronNugget posted... lilJoe457 posted... I don't think it's rubbish. WWE sent him to 3 different doctors and didn't get the answer they wanted. Then sent him to one who used non FDA approved methods to get their answer. If they were really concerned about not having another Benoit why would they go to a doctor who used non FDA approved methods? Yeah fair point but I really don't think that they are not clearing him just so they can push Roman. I mean D-Bry is one of the most popular wrestlers this millennium, I don't think WWE would deliberately stop themselves profiting off Bryan's overness just to push one wrestler, especially now that there is 2 brands and more depth on the roster. millionaire, who should be a billionaire The Self Professed Bray Wyatt of the PWB. Bo Dallas for President. Despair will always trump hope. Kyoko Kirigiri is Anabel. Thicke Wicke. FC: 4914-3689-7500 reportquote

lilJoe457 1 day ago#20 occupine posted... BaronNugget posted... lilJoe457 posted... I don't think it's rubbish. WWE sent him to 3 different doctors and didn't get the answer they wanted. Then sent him to one who used non FDA approved methods to get their answer. If they were really concerned about not having another Benoit why would they go to a doctor who used non FDA approved methods? Yeah fair point but I really don't think that they are not clearing him just so they can push Roman. I mean D-Bry is one of the most popular wrestlers this millennium, I don't think WWE would deliberately stop themselves profiting off Bryan's overness just to push one wrestler, especially now that there is 2 brands and more depth on the roster. millionaire, who should be a billionaire This.  But maybe it didn't have to do with specifically Roman. Just in general they saw him as a mid carder and they didn't want the fans to do a repeat of 2014 except this time forever. WWE does have plausible deniability by saying they wanted to be really careful. But then why is someone like Orton wrestling. Breakin' necks and cashin' cheques. reportquote

truffleshuffles 1 day ago#21 occupine posted... watch all the fake doctors of the pwb to come and s*** all over bryan, saying he's still at risk He is still at risk, I watched like 7 episodes of er when I was a kid that totally counts as being a doctor... Please wrestle again reportquote

bigpatpunchhard 1 day ago#22 JfAtS1O3N posted... Christ man let it go. Shut up, Neville Chamberlain. reportquote

JimPean 1 day ago#23 Just listened to the podcast. Overall good summary of the actual medical condition, diagnosis, and treatment. One thing that should be noted is that Bryan also mentioned that on the eve of his big title win, Vince told him that he was hoping to make Reigns into the next Cena which Bryan mentioned not being a confrontational person so he respectively told Vince that HE was actually hoping to be the next Cena. I found that to be even more interesting than the entire medical condition. Just the fact you have some dude who is blowing up outside of your design, yet you still can't see the money in front of you because he's not the guy you wanted to on top is ludicrous. Of course, the carnies of WWE will continue to claim Bryan's push to the top was always the plan. Literally f*** off. reportquote

Parrotshake 1 day ago#24 JimPean posted... One thing that should be noted is that Bryan also mentioned that on the eve of his big title win, Vince told him that he was hoping to make Reigns into the next Cena which Bryan mentioned not being a confrontational person so he respectively told Vince that HE was actually hoping to be the next Cena. I found that to be even more interesting than the entire medical condition. Just the fact you have some dude who is blowing up outside of your design, yet you still can't see the money in front of you because he's not the guy you wanted to on top is ludicrous. Of course, the carnies of WWE will continue to claim Bryan's push to the top was always the plan. Literally f*** off. LITERALLY. You know I feel like a preacher waving a gun around Shake it, shake it. shake it baby! reportquote

sportsfan32 1 day ago#25 Thank you for posting this. I'm not a doctor (or more importantly DBs doctor) so idk whats going on I just hope that if he wrestles again everything is ok Bobcats in 6. reportquote

BazzaPersonal 1 day ago#26 bigpatpunchhard posted... Can't wait for BRYAN DANIELSON vs KATSUYORI SHIBATA WK12 co-main event right there. The Co-Official D.Va of every GameFAQs board! "Think you can keep up with me? I play to win!" reportquote

RockLee94 1 day ago#27 BazzaPersonal posted... bigpatpunchhard posted... Can't wait for BRYAN DANIELSON vs KATSUYORI SHIBATA WK12 co-main event right there. Can't wait for the battle of the cripples Huck it chuck it football reportquote

RockLee94 1 day ago#28 Listening to the episode now. After like a half hour of Bryan talking about breast milk it gets to some good stuff. I had a good chuckle at Hot Topic asking WWE to sell Bullet Club shirts after they saw a s*** load of them Wrestlemania weekend. Huck it chuck it football reportquote

bigpatpunchhard 1 day ago#29 BazzaPersonal posted... WK12 co-main event right there. WK13 maybe. WK12 is too early for both. Unless Bryan gets released in the next two weeks, it'll be in the 90 day no compete clause window. RockLee94 posted... Can't wait for the battle of the cripples They broke their brains, not their legs and it sounds like Bryan didn't even do that. reportquote

acolytes 1 day ago#30 JimPean posted... Just listened to the podcast. Overall good summary of the actual medical condition, diagnosis, and treatment. One thing that should be noted is that Bryan also mentioned that on the eve of his big title win, Vince told him that he was hoping to make Reigns into the next Cena which Bryan mentioned not being a confrontational person so he respectively told Vince that HE was actually hoping to be the next Cena. I found that to be even more interesting than the entire medical condition. Just the fact you have some dude who is blowing up outside of your design, yet you still can't see the money in front of you because he's not the guy you wanted to on top is ludicrous. Of course, the carnies of WWE will continue to claim Bryan's push to the top was always the plan. Literally f*** off. Why the hell was Vince even telling him that? Was it kind of a, "enjoy this for now, because..." thing? Empty the Tanks. Ivory Free. reportquote

RockLee94 1 day ago#31 bigpatpunchhard posted... BazzaPersonal posted... WK12 co-main event right there. WK13 maybe. WK12 is too early for both. Unless Bryan gets released in the next two weeks, it'll be in the 90 day no compete clause window. RockLee94 posted... Can't wait for the battle of the cripples They broke their brains, not their legs and it sounds like Bryan didn't even do that. It was just a joke, albeit not a well thought out one. Calm down patpunchturd Huck it chuck it football reportquote

bigpatpunchhard 1 day ago#32 No, I'm not going to f***ing calm down. How about you come meet me at the Tokyo Dome on Jan 4th and we'll settle this? reportquote

AndreLeGeant 1 day ago#33 If his contract expires there is no 90 day clause. The 90 day clause is if you're fired. That's how Christian went right to TNA. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero. They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord Sideous reportquote

bigpatpunchhard 1 day ago#34 I don't think his contract is up until next year though. reportquote

AndreLeGeant 1 day ago#35 I'm not sure of the time because when you're injured they toll the contract. So every day you're hurt is added to the length of your contract. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero. They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord Sideous reportquote

bigpatpunchhard 1 day ago#36 AndreLeGeant posted... I'm not sure of the time because when you're injured they toll the contract. So every day you're hurt is added to the length of your contract. I mean, they have to change that with Bryan. They can't keep him indefinitely. reportquote

occupine 1 day ago#37 bigpatpunchhard posted... AndreLeGeant posted... I'm not sure of the time because when you're injured they toll the contract. So every day you're hurt is added to the length of your contract. I mean, they have to change that with Bryan. They can't keep him indefinitely. especially since he's not actually hurt..is that something that can be fought over legally? The Self Professed Bray Wyatt of the PWB. Bo Dallas for President. Despair will always trump hope. Kyoko Kirigiri is Anabel. Thicke Wicke. FC: 4914-3689-7500 reportquote

RockLee94 1 day ago#38 I don't think it would revolutionize the business or anything but it would cause quite a big stir if he went to ROH or NJPW Huck it chuck it football reportquote

Amplifier316 1 day ago#39 Sooo... What was with the seizures he admitted to having/hiding? --- reportquote

llennroc 1 day ago#40 Amplifier316 posted... Sooo... What was with the seizures he admitted to having/hiding? This. People against him wrestling (including me) were going off this information. There was also a long while where there was no information on what was wrong with himnin the first place. The Sexy Beasts of the PWB  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTSjdc_H0eQ reportquote

EffectAndCause 1 day ago#41 I know Bryan is one of the best wrestlers ever and there are so many amazing opponents he could have, and i'm sorry, but I don't give a f***, the money match that needs to happen is him Vs. The Miz at WrestleMania. That is a perfect feud. http://i.imgur.com/wMshiEN.jpg reportquote

KainFourteh 1 day ago#42 WWE literally just don't want to be in the firing line if something goes wrong, can't say I blame them. reportquote

occupine 1 day ago#43 KainFourteh posted... WWE literally just don't want to be in the firing line if something goes wrong, can't say I blame them. after having multiple drs say "HE'S FINE", WWE wont get any backlash The Self Professed Bray Wyatt of the PWB. Bo Dallas for President. Despair will always trump hope. Kyoko Kirigiri is Anabel. Thicke Wicke. FC: 4914-3689-7500 reportquote

PyramidHead88 1 day ago#44 Danielson vs Okada! Xbox Live GT: Pyramid Head 88 PSN Username: PyramidHead88 reportquote

TheUnknown1One1 1 day ago#45 occupine posted... KainFourteh posted... WWE literally just don't want to be in the firing line if something goes wrong, can't say I blame them. after having multiple drs say "HE'S FINE", WWE wont get any backlash You really believe that? Brie Bella reportquote

NathanCopeland 1 day ago#46 why don't he leave wwe? it's not like they need him Not Changing Until No More Heroes 3 Is Announced reportquote

WickedSickJosh 1 day ago#47 Amplifier316 posted... Sooo... What was with the seizures he admitted to having/hiding? I was thinking of this while reading the post too. I'd love to see Daniel Bryan come back, but maybe there's more to the story then he's leading on. Check out my YouTube channel for retro video game reviews, discussions and more: http://www.youtube.com/c/TheAgingGamer reportquote

occupine 1 day ago#48 TheUnknown1One1 posted... occupine posted... KainFourteh posted... WWE literally just don't want to be in the firing line if something goes wrong, can't say I blame them. after having multiple drs say "HE'S FINE", WWE wont get any backlash You really believe that? "Our doctors, 3rd party doctors, every doctor has said he is fine and normal, there was no risk" nobody would be able to blame the wwe without looking like morons...so in other words the pwb will do it The Self Professed Bray Wyatt of the PWB. Bo Dallas for President. Despair will always trump hope. Kyoko Kirigiri is Anabel. Thicke Wicke. FC: 4914-3689-7500 reportquote

AndreLeGeant 1 day ago#49 occupine posted... bigpatpunchhard posted... AndreLeGeant posted... I'm not sure of the time because when you're injured they toll the contract. So every day you're hurt is added to the length of your contract. I mean, they have to change that with Bryan. They can't keep him indefinitely. especially since he's not actually hurt..is that something that can be fought over legally? His time as GM probably counts. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I am your sXe hero. They should build a mosque in mecca. Right next to the dome of the rock. -- Lord Sideous reportquote

JimPean 15 hours ago#50 "I had a conversation with Vince. Actually, I don’t know when it was. I don’t know if it was before WrestleMania 30 or if it was after WrestleMania 30, but it went something along the lines of this. It’s like he said something along the lines to me of, ‘we really want to push Roman to be the next John Cena.’ And I had said to him, ‘boss, I 100% support that, but I just want you to know that I want to be the next John Cena.’ Like, don’t tell me he wants some other guy to be the next John Cena!” reportquote

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   ShadowKirby17 15 hours ago#51 I half expect him to go Benoit, to be honest. Koalas are cool (>^_^<) Hey girl hey! reportquote

   occupine 14 hours ago#52 ShadowKirby17 posted... I half expect him to go Benoit, to be honest. his brain is perfectly fine, there is no risk of that happening The Self Professed Bray Wyatt of the PWB. Bo Dallas for President. Despair will always trump hope. Kyoko Kirigiri is Anabel. Thicke Wicke. FC: 4914-3689-7500 reportquote

   acolytes 14 hours ago#53 ShadowKirby17 posted... I half expect him to go Benoit, to be honest. Jesus Christ, f*** off with that. Empty the Tanks. Ivory Free. reportquote

   pricelesslegacy 13 hours ago#54 They're lyin to ya maaaan. reportquote

   CM_Ponch 7 hours ago#55 JimPean posted... "I had a conversation with Vince. Actually, I don’t know when it was. I don’t know if it was before WrestleMania 30 or if it was after WrestleMania 30, but it went something along the lines of this. It’s like he said something along the lines to me of, ‘we really want to push Roman to be the next John Cena.’ And I had said to him, ‘boss, I 100% support that, but I just want you to know that I want to be the next John Cena.’ Like, don’t tell me he wants some other guy to be the next John Cena!” This is why Vince forced the retirement, Bryan was the one guy who could stop him SW-8316-3213-4720 reportquote

   REAL-Talker 7 hours ago#56 CM_Ponch posted... JimPean posted... "I had a conversation with Vince. Actually, I don’t know when it was. I don’t know if it was before WrestleMania 30 or if it was after WrestleMania 30, but it went something along the lines of this. It’s like he said something along the lines to me of, ‘we really want to push Roman to be the next John Cena.’ And I had said to him, ‘boss, I 100% support that, but I just want you to know that I want to be the next John Cena.’ Like, don’t tell me he wants some other guy to be the next John Cena!” This is why Vince forced the retirement, Bryan was the one guy who could stop him I honestly believe he was never really legit sold on Bryan as the guy. Despite all the evidence right in his face that he was mistaken. While that quote doesn't confirm it it does add credence to the theory. Despite having the hottest babyface act since The Rock and arguably the best worker in the world in his prime he was already looking past him to push a guy who wasn't even close to being as over as he was, as talented as he was, and was literally only 4 years younger. http://i.imgur.com/PPlFOrU.jpg Jena Frumes. That is all. #realtalk (edited 7 hours ago)reportquote

   MK9_Prodigy 7 hours ago#57 Wow. That's some f***ed up s*** and the worst part is it's easily believable because WWE came across as trying to sabotage him during his run. I'm glad he's gonna leave and hopefully he makes another promotion a lot of money, I didn't know all these details. reportquote

   bwtowne23 6 hours ago#58 I'll buy njpw world if he does. And cancel my WWE subscription I'm too sexy for this post reportquote

   Conflict  refugee love block me5 hours ago#59 Parrotshake posted... JimPean posted... One thing that should be noted is that Bryan also mentioned that on the eve of his big title win, Vince told him that he was hoping to make Reigns into the next Cena which Bryan mentioned not being a confrontational person so he respectively told Vince that HE was actually hoping to be the next Cena. I found that to be even more interesting than the entire medical condition. Just the fact you have some dude who is blowing up outside of your design, yet you still can't see the money in front of you because he's not the guy you wanted to on top is ludicrous. Of course, the carnies of WWE will continue to claim Bryan's push to the top was always the plan. Literally f*** off. LITERALLY. Yes, people use 'literally' to emphasize. This has been a thing for the past seven years now and it's time to get over it I want a 6ft amazon girl to uppercut my junk - SSJGrimReaper reportquote

   Conflict  refugee love block me5 hours ago#60 But on topic this shows that Vince is dangerously senile and with Steph pretty much admitting that philanthropy is a 'quality marketing tool', this company is run by some true s***heads. I want a 6ft amazon girl to uppercut my junk - SSJGrimReaper (edited 5 hours ago)reportquote

   SmashBurb 4 hours ago#61 RockLee94 posted... I don't think it would revolutionize the business or anything but it would cause quite a big stir if he went to ROH or NJPW If none of the guys who jumped ship to TNA when it was at its peak managed to put a dent in WWE, there's no way in hell Daniel Bryan going to ROH or NJPW would. reportquote

   MRW1215 4 hours ago#62 I mean, the stuff about Roman isn't exactly anything we didn't already know. Vince outright stated long ago that he sees more value in pushing a singular top guy on a huge pedestal over everyone else rather than building up multiple top level talents. And when confronted about it, Vince and Triple H and whoever have never denied that the plan is for Roman to be "the next Cena". Either way, it's still very frustrating. Vince's philosophy is much too narrow, and it hurts the product more than it helps it. While merch sales and general revenue might be fine, it's not like Cena and Roman have taken the business to new heights and brought in tons of new fans. Ratings and buyrates had been declining for years, now, and that trend still continues. What good does it really do to put all your eggs in one basket, rather creating a roster of worthwhile workers that can create a product with more variety and more intrigue? I mean, if you're not a fan of Roman or Cena, what's the point of even being a fan of the product? You know that anyone who's not one of those two guys (or a special attraction part timer like Brock) can only ever aspire to being a "B" level main eventer at best, and thus, there's basically no incentive to be a fan. Vince seems to think "Pfft, but they keep watching anyway, so f*** 'em, I'll do whatever I want!", but he seems to fail to understand that people don't WANT to "stop watching", they just want Vince to stop being a narrow-minded old man that has to have it his way. https://www.youtube.com/RatedM477 New videos every weekday at 4PM ET! reportquote

   Scorsese2002 3 hours ago#63 Just f***in' leave and be done with it, nothing of value will be lost. Conflict posted... But on topic this shows that Vince is dangerously senile and with Steph pretty much admitting that philanthropy is a 'quality marketing tool', this company is run by some true s***heads. She's not wrong. R.I.P. GameFAQs Throwback Mode reportquote

   Conflict  refugee love block me2 hours ago#64 Scorsese2002 posted... Just f***in' leave and be done with it, nothing of value will be lost. Conflict posted... But on topic this shows that Vince is dangerously senile and with Steph pretty much admitting that philanthropy is a 'quality marketing tool', this company is run by some true s***heads. She's not wrong. Uh, yeah, she is. Incredibly. I want a 6ft amazon girl to uppercut my junk - SSJGrimReaper reportquote

   KnivesCore714 2 hours ago#65 MRW1215 posted... I mean, the stuff about Roman isn't exactly anything we didn't already know. Vince outright stated long ago that he sees more value in pushing a singular top guy on a huge pedestal over everyone else rather than building up multiple top level talents. And when confronted about it, Vince and Triple H and whoever have never denied that the plan is for Roman to be "the next Cena". Either way, it's still very frustrating. Vince's philosophy is much too narrow, and it hurts the product more than it helps it. While merch sales and general revenue might be fine, it's not like Cena and Roman have taken the business to new heights and brought in tons of new fans. Ratings and buyrates had been declining for years, now, and that trend still continues. What good does it really do to put all your eggs in one basket, rather creating a roster of worthwhile workers that can create a product with more variety and more intrigue? I mean, if you're not a fan of Roman or Cena, what's the point of even being a fan of the product? You know that anyone who's not one of those two guys (or a special attraction part timer like Brock) can only ever aspire to being a "B" level main eventer at best, and thus, there's basically no incentive to be a fan. Vince seems to think "Pfft, but they keep watching anyway, so f*** 'em, I'll do whatever I want!", but he seems to fail to understand that people don't WANT to "stop watching", they just want Vince to stop being a narrow-minded old man that has to have it his way. He now exists in the darkness of deletion. Brother Nero is only a vessel of flesh that is empty on the inside. I deleted everything that made him special. reportquote

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