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Clean pinfall losses Cena has taken since 2007

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humptyrump 1 day ago#1
vs HBK (4/23/07 Raw)
vs Great Khali (6/2/07 SNME)
vs HHH (NOC 2008)
vs Batista (SS 2008)
vs Big Show (3/30/09 Raw)
vs HHH (10/19/09 Raw)
vs The Rock (WM28)
vs Bryan (SS 2013)
vs Lesnar (SS 2014)
vs KO (EC 2015)
vs Del Rio (HIAC 2015)
vs Styles (SS 2016)
vs Ambrose (9/20/16 SD)
vs Nakamura (8/1/17 SD)

These are just losses in singles matches. He also got pinned clean by Wyatt at EC earlier this year, and then again 2 days later on SD in a triple-threat
DCsharker 1 day ago#2
He lost clean to Albert too, with that Asian gimmick
Frogles 1 day ago#3
his loss to albert wasnt clean
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DCsharker posted...
He lost clean to Albert too, with that Asian gimmick

Nope, Johnny Ace got involved I believe, plus I think he used THE GREEEEEN MIST

Regarding TC's point about multimans, he also got pinned clean at No Way Out 2009 in the Elimination Chamber.
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xOmniCloudx 1 day ago#5
humptyrump posted...
vs HBK (4/23/07 Raw)
vs Great Khali (6/2/07 SNME)
vs HHH (NOC 2008)
vs Batista (SS 2008)
vs Big Show (3/30/09 Raw)
vs HHH (10/19/09 Raw)
vs The Rock (WM28)
vs Bryan (SS 2013)
vs Lesnar (SS 2014)
vs KO (EC 2015)
vs Del Rio (HIAC 2015)
vs Styles (SS 2016)
vs Ambrose (9/20/16 SD)
vs Nakamura (8/1/17 SD)

These are just losses in singles matches. He also got pinned clean by Wyatt at EC earlier this year, and then again 2 days later on SD in a triple-threat


Clean singles losses are basically annual events for him given he has a few years where he lost twice but then a few of years where he didn't lose at all. In any case, I don't remember any of the 00s TV ones. I'll have to track them down.

EDIT:
Can you find Reigns'? The only one I remember is Finn Balor.
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AzumaNaroon 1 day ago#6
I remember marking out hard for Del Rio's win over him at that PPV, and I wasn't even a fan of his. Just the whole 'wtf just happened' aspect of it. Though it was clear Cena was gonna lose that belt to someone since he was leaving to go film some shit or something.
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humptyrump 1 day ago#7
The only 2 clean pinfall losses Roman has taken

Shield triple-threat where he got pinned by Ambrose (Battleground 2016)
vs Balor (7/25/16 Raw)

MITB 2016 had a ref bump, and Roman was injured when he lost to Braun at Payback
humptyrump posted...
vs Ambrose (9/20/16 SD)


eating this one just so Ambrose could be seen on AJ's level.
xOmniCloudx 1 day ago#9
humptyrump posted...
The only 2 clean pinfall losses Roman has taken

Shield triple-threat where he got pinned by Ambrose (Battleground 2016)
vs Balor (7/25/16 Raw)

MITB 2016 had a ref bump, and Roman was injured when he lost to Braun at Payback


Woah, Roman's more protected than even Cena was in his peak years. Roman has been with the company since 2010 and been on TV since 2012 and has only taken one clean pin in singles competition his entire career as of now? Then in general, he only has two clean pins ever as of now? Sheesh, that's ridiculous. 

I watched him get pinned by Balor live and it didn't seem right and imo felt like it broke kayfabe. It was just so obvious Roman was told to lay down given Reigns history while Balor had no build and had barely been there and no believability yet, he of all people pins Roman clean. Plus with that finisher of all finishers, without the kayfabe demon gimmick and while Roman is wearing his vest... 

Imo that was a HUGE waste, especially given where Finn is now. I'm curious what made WWE push Finn so damn quickly and so hard to be immediately thrown in the universal title picture, be the first to beat reigns Clean 1 v 1 and be the inaugural Universal champion (that they originally tried to pretend didn't happen when they kept saying Owens was the first one). A colossal push which seems even stranger for him to have gotten given what he's done since he came back and how Elias Samson (because just Elias is dumb) of all people was going over him. Now he's in a feud with Wyatt, a guy where feuds don't mean anything regardless if you win or lose.
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occupine 1 day ago#10
Hasn't joe beaten Roman clean twice?
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humptyrump 1 day ago#11
occupine posted...
Hasn't joe beaten Roman clean twice?


Braun interference both times

And Balor beat Roman clean because Roman was being punished for his wellness violation and they were going to go with Finn as the top face on Raw
occupine 1 day ago#12
humptyrump posted...
occupine posted...
Hasn't joe beaten Roman clean twice?


Braun interference both times

And Balor beat Roman clean because Roman was being punished for his wellness violation and they were going to go with Finn as the top face on Raw

fair enough. I don't really pay attention to raw much
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sharpcage 1 day ago#13
humptyrump posted...
The only 2 clean pinfall losses Roman has taken

Shield triple-threat where he got pinned by Ambrose (Battleground 2016)
vs Balor (7/25/16 Raw)

MITB 2016 had a ref bump, and Roman was injured when he lost to Braun at Payback


Then Cena's loss to Bryan wasn't clean since they made a huge deal with Cena's injury in that match.
humptyrump posted...
occupine posted...
Hasn't joe beaten Roman clean twice?


Braun interference both times

And Balor beat Roman clean because Roman was being punished for his wellness violation and they were going to go with Finn as the top face on Raw


I forgot about that window. So if not for that, Roman would have been the inaugural universal champion and most likely still undefeated clean 1 v 1. So in a way, it was breaking kayfabe. Still, why Balor of all people given he had done virtually nothing when there were many other established stars to fill that role? There were even some heels that could have been decent or even good faces worthy that would have made more sense than pushing Balor to the moon in a month's time.
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sharpcage 1 day ago#15
Final_Revenger posted...
DCsharker posted...
He lost clean to Albert too, with that Asian gimmick

Nope, Johnny Ace got involved I believe, plus I think he used THE GREEEEEN MIST

Regarding TC's point about multimans, he also got pinned clean at No Way Out 2009 in the Elimination Chamber.


His manager also got involved kicking Cena on the outside at one point.

Cena also was pinned clean twice by Wyatt in the cell and the triple threat match two days later with Styles.
mrlowrider 1 day ago#16
I love not counting the Balor win because Roman got popped. That's adorably insane
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Big Show also beat Roman clean back in May 2015 iirc.
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mrlowrider 1 day ago#18
BazzaPersonal posted...
Big Show also beat Roman clean back in May 2015 iirc.

I think someone hit Roman in the back/ribs with a weapon
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Aumurva 1 day ago#19
humptyrump posted...
MITB 2016 had a ref bump, and Roman was injured when he lost to Braun at Payback


If you're going to count injuries, then you have to remove D-Bry and Batista from Cena's list. Both had injuries that were addressed.

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Seth beat Roman clean in that match where Dean Ambrose cashed in his briefcase.
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humptyrump 1 day ago#21
SaintSeiyaX posted...
Seth beat Roman clean in that match where Dean Ambrose cashed in his briefcase.


Roman had the match won but there was a ref bump.
Sada_Pop 1 day ago#22
I don't think that is right
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JfAtS1O3N 1 day ago#23
Didn't JBL beat Cena clean in 2008? I know it was a Parking Lot Brawl but nobody interfered or anything, and I don't think JBL won in a particularly cheap way.
humptyrump posted...
SaintSeiyaX posted...
Seth beat Roman clean in that match where Dean Ambrose cashed in his briefcase.


Roman had the match won but there was a ref bump.

Thank you. Even if Seth might have kicked out of that Spear, he also might not have. We don't know, and thus it can't be clean. Clean implies no questions, no argument.
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Mr_GGFan 1 day ago#26
JfAtS1O3N posted...
Didn't JBL beat Cena clean in 2008? I know it was a Parking Lot Brawl but nobody interfered or anything, and I don't think JBL won in a particularly cheap way.


Yeah, JBL won clean so that he looked credible for his feud with Punk.

P.S. Cena beat JBL 3534654735678 times after that match. So much for credibility.
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JfAtS1O3N 1 day ago#27
Braun did just beat Roman clean at GBOF, even if he didn't pin him and it seemed to be played off as more of a lucky, fluke win than anything else.
Mr_GGFan posted...
JfAtS1O3N posted...
Didn't JBL beat Cena clean in 2008? I know it was a Parking Lot Brawl but nobody interfered or anything, and I don't think JBL won in a particularly cheap way.


Yeah, JBL won clean so that he looked credible for his feud with Punk.

P.S. Cena beat JBL 3534654735678 times after that match. So much for credibility.


Don't forget the 8373938383167 times before that too.
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humptyrump posted...
SaintSeiyaX posted...
Seth beat Roman clean in that match where Dean Ambrose cashed in his briefcase.


Roman had the match won but there was a ref bump.

Thank you. Even if Seth might have kicked out of that Spear, he also might not have. We don't know, and thus it can't be clean. Clean implies no questions, no argument.


Roman HIMSELF caused the Ref Bump. To me, to mark that match as non-clean is the equivalent of saying a match isn't clean if a pinfall attempt takes too long causing a kickout.
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Saitsuofleaves posted...
Final_Revenger posted...
humptyrump posted...
SaintSeiyaX posted...
Seth beat Roman clean in that match where Dean Ambrose cashed in his briefcase.


Roman had the match won but there was a ref bump.

Thank you. Even if Seth might have kicked out of that Spear, he also might not have. We don't know, and thus it can't be clean. Clean implies no questions, no argument.


Roman HIMSELF caused the Ref Bump. To me, to mark that match as non-clean is the equivalent of saying a match isn't clean if a pinfall attempt takes too long causing a kickout.

Roman didn't do it intentionally. It's the referee's fault for being out of position. How many hundreds of matches has Roman been able to hit or miss the spear without a clumsy, incompetent ref getting in the way? The referee shouldn't have been in position to be hit. That's an outside factor that had an effect on the result of the match and is insanely unfair.
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occupine 1 day ago#32
Milo_Yiannopous posted...
Cena vs punk at mitb 2011

that was not clean
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Came in ready to bitch at TC if MitB Punk was on there, but nope. Good man.

Sheamus beat him clean at TLC though.
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Iwin2013 1 day ago#34
xOmniCloudx posted...
humptyrump posted...
occupine posted...
Hasn't joe beaten Roman clean twice?


Braun interference both times

And Balor beat Roman clean because Roman was being punished for his wellness violation and they were going to go with Finn as the top face on Raw


I forgot about that window. So if not for that, Roman would have been the inaugural universal champion and most likely still undefeated clean 1 v 1. So in a way, it was breaking kayfabe. Still, why Balor of all people given he had done virtually nothing when there were many other established stars to fill that role? There were even some heels that could have been decent or even good faces worthy that would have made more sense than pushing Balor to the moon in a month's time.


Because he did well in NXT, and he was "new blood". Basically it.
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mrlowrider 1 day ago#35
GameGodOfAll posted...
Came in ready to bitch at TC if MitB Punk was on there, but nope. Good man.

Sheamus beat him clean at TLC though.

Pinfall
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GameGodOfAll posted...
Came in ready to bitch at TC if MitB Punk was on there, but nope. Good man.

Sheamus beat him clean at TLC though.

Pinfall

Oh. Well I was only joking to try and trick you all. So there.
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ScorpioGuy 1 day ago#38
The ref bump at mitb didn't matter. The ref was right there and counted the pin. clean win for The Rollins.
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xOmniCloudx posted...
humptyrump posted...
The only 2 clean pinfall losses Roman has taken

Shield triple-threat where he got pinned by Ambrose (Battleground 2016)
vs Balor (7/25/16 Raw)

MITB 2016 had a ref bump, and Roman was injured when he lost to Braun at Payback


Woah, Roman's more protected than even Cena was in his peak years. Roman has been with the company since 2010 and been on TV since 2012 and has only taken one clean pin in singles competition his entire career as of now?


Well, he's only been a singles guy for about 2.5 years.

And they never tried to discount Finn being the first Universal Champion
DarkDragon386 posted...
xOmniCloudx posted...
humptyrump posted...
The only 2 clean pinfall losses Roman has taken

Shield triple-threat where he got pinned by Ambrose (Battleground 2016)
vs Balor (7/25/16 Raw)

MITB 2016 had a ref bump, and Roman was injured when he lost to Braun at Payback


Woah, Roman's more protected than even Cena was in his peak years. Roman has been with the company since 2010 and been on TV since 2012 and has only taken one clean pin in singles competition his entire career as of now?


Well, he's only been a singles guy for about 2.5 years.

And they never tried to discount Finn being the first Universal Champion


I don't know anyone that's been a singles competitor be that protected even as a top guy in that amount of time. Plus even tag team wrestlers commonly have 1 v 1 matches and take clean pins or at least, they used to. 

As for discounting Finn being the first UC, yes they did. A week or two after Owens won it, they for nearly a month kept saying that he was the first UC on TV and not Finn. Steph, Foley and the commentary team said it a number of times over the weeks so it wasn't a one off mistake. Many people here and on various websites were wondering why they were pretending Balor wasn't the inaugural champ and where they were going with it. Then they just stopped it all together.
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ninjabay 1 day ago#41
xOmniCloudx posted...
DarkDragon386 posted...
xOmniCloudx posted...
humptyrump posted...
The only 2 clean pinfall losses Roman has taken

Shield triple-threat where he got pinned by Ambrose (Battleground 2016)
vs Balor (7/25/16 Raw)

MITB 2016 had a ref bump, and Roman was injured when he lost to Braun at Payback


Woah, Roman's more protected than even Cena was in his peak years. Roman has been with the company since 2010 and been on TV since 2012 and has only taken one clean pin in singles competition his entire career as of now?


Well, he's only been a singles guy for about 2.5 years.

And they never tried to discount Finn being the first Universal Champion


I don't know anyone that's been a singles competitor be that protected even as a top guy in that amount of time. Plus even tag team wrestlers commonly have 1 v 1 matches and take clean pins or at least, they used to. 

As for discounting Finn being the first UC, yes they did. A week or two after Owens won it, they for nearly a month kept saying that he was the first UC on TV and not Finn. Steph, Foley and the commentary team said it a number of times over the weeks so it wasn't a one off mistake. Many people here and on various websites were wondering why they were pretending Balor wasn't the inaugural champ and where they were going with it. Then they just stopped it all together.


well... technicaly he was the first one on TV seeing Balor vacated it after winning it on PPV
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ninjabay posted...
xOmniCloudx posted...
DarkDragon386 posted...
xOmniCloudx posted...
humptyrump posted...
The only 2 clean pinfall losses Roman has taken

Shield triple-threat where he got pinned by Ambrose (Battleground 2016)
vs Balor (7/25/16 Raw)

MITB 2016 had a ref bump, and Roman was injured when he lost to Braun at Payback


Woah, Roman's more protected than even Cena was in his peak years. Roman has been with the company since 2010 and been on TV since 2012 and has only taken one clean pin in singles competition his entire career as of now?


Well, he's only been a singles guy for about 2.5 years.

And they never tried to discount Finn being the first Universal Champion


I don't know anyone that's been a singles competitor be that protected even as a top guy in that amount of time. Plus even tag team wrestlers commonly have 1 v 1 matches and take clean pins or at least, they used to. 

As for discounting Finn being the first UC, yes they did. A week or two after Owens won it, they for nearly a month kept saying that he was the first UC on TV and not Finn. Steph, Foley and the commentary team said it a number of times over the weeks so it wasn't a one off mistake. Many people here and on various websites were wondering why they were pretending Balor wasn't the inaugural champ and where they were going with it. Then they just stopped it all together.


well... technicaly he was the first one on TV seeing Balor vacated it after winning it on PPV


Balor showed up on TV as champ to vacate it though. Although they didn't specify TV vs PPV, that was just unclear writing from me. They said it generally and pretended Balor didn't exist.
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ninjabay 1 day ago#43
xOmniCloudx posted...
ninjabay posted...
xOmniCloudx posted...
DarkDragon386 posted...
xOmniCloudx posted...
humptyrump posted...
The only 2 clean pinfall losses Roman has taken

Shield triple-threat where he got pinned by Ambrose (Battleground 2016)
vs Balor (7/25/16 Raw)

MITB 2016 had a ref bump, and Roman was injured when he lost to Braun at Payback


Woah, Roman's more protected than even Cena was in his peak years. Roman has been with the company since 2010 and been on TV since 2012 and has only taken one clean pin in singles competition his entire career as of now?


Well, he's only been a singles guy for about 2.5 years.

And they never tried to discount Finn being the first Universal Champion


I don't know anyone that's been a singles competitor be that protected even as a top guy in that amount of time. Plus even tag team wrestlers commonly have 1 v 1 matches and take clean pins or at least, they used to. 

As for discounting Finn being the first UC, yes they did. A week or two after Owens won it, they for nearly a month kept saying that he was the first UC on TV and not Finn. Steph, Foley and the commentary team said it a number of times over the weeks so it wasn't a one off mistake. Many people here and on various websites were wondering why they were pretending Balor wasn't the inaugural champ and where they were going with it. Then they just stopped it all together.


well... technicaly he was the first one on TV seeing Balor vacated it after winning it on PPV


Balor showed up on TV as champ to vacate it though. Although they didn't specify TV vs PPV, that was just unclear writing from me. They said it generally and pretended Balor didn't exist.


I know, i was just kidding

It was really stupid
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