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-Did his retirement speech due to a misunderstanding of a medical term -His brain damage is akin to a college football player -Doing a new kind of treatment (hyperarric oxygen treatment) which seems to improve his brain. It's measured by a nuclear specs scan that shows how your brain is soing. -He has done 40 treatments and his brain is vastly improving. Brie also notices this. -After more 80 treatments you would think he hasn't done any contact sports in his entire life according to his doctor -Talks about coming out of having no reason to stay retired, part time due to him having a child (50-100 matches a year) -Won't wrestle if there's serious risk to his health -Wants to teach his daughter that you shouldn't give up your dream because other people say you can't do it, throws some shade to WWE -Is open to the idea that people find him delusional
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Smh, just give it up, maaaan.
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Vlugge_Japie posted...
-He has done 40 treatments and his brain is vastly improving. Brie also notices this. lol |
ConfessPlease posted...
SeamusOHassey posted...Smh, just give it up, maaaan. I really have no inside info to prove one way or the other, but this isn't WWE "holding him down" or anything like that. If they were doing it out of spite, I don't think they'd even bother keeping him on TV. It's simply them covering their ass. With concussion lawsuits still pending the last thing they need is to reactivate a performer that had admitted concussion problems. I honestly think there's nothing more to it than that. |
if his health is actually improving, he should count and blessings and still stay retired. He's scaled the mountain, he's now on the wrong side of 35, he's set up for life, and now maybe he won't die young/have dementia at 60...
why risk that? I like how he brings the child up as a reason to keep wrestling and chase dreams, when really Im sure she'd just rather have her daddy there growing up
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Problem is he'd probably still not change up his style at all, and he'd put himself at even more risk.
He's had an accomplished career and for the sake of his body and mind it just seems like it would be best to leave that chapter of his life in the past and focus on his family now. If anything it's a blessing that he's probably set for life financially and therefore doesn't have to work even a semi-physically demanding schedule. He's been given the opportunity to see his child grow up and not run his body even further into the ground, while still picking up a paycheck. Every cloud has a silver lining and all that.
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ConfessPlease posted...
SeamusOHassey posted...Smh, just give it up, maaaan. Lmao Bryan fans slay me.
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Even if Bryan leaves and goes to NJPW and wrestles part-time, it'll be disappointing that we won't see a main event Bryan vs. Styles, Nakamura, or Balor. Even Rollins or Ambrose.
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KingHova045 posted...
So what's this bulls*** voodoo mumbo jumbo he's talking about? Yes. I mean, he's vegan, so buying into bulls*** alternative medicine wouldn't shock me. You'd think as a father, he'd want to avoid ending up with a brain like Chris Benoit's.
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ConfessPlease posted...
SeamusOHassey posted...Smh, just give it up, maaaan. Come off it mate, I love D-Bry but he is far from the best wrestler that has ever lived.
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted...
Daniel Bryan would be a great pre-show hand to warm the crowd up, maybe he could feud with Curt Hawkins before finally retiring. I agree 100%
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WWE's hand are tied. IF they let Bryan wrestle again and he gets hurt it will be a PR s***storm!
Bryan can go to Japan (and greatly improve the US NJPW audience) but, damn, he'd definitely get hurt over there. Come to think of it, I wonder if that liability will actually work against Bryan getting signed somewhere else (even though he's be a mega star).
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Eh. No offense, but I don't understand the "armchair diagnosis" stuff that everyone here seems to like to give. None of us are close enough to the situation to know what Bryan's medical situation is, and as far as I'm aware, his complete medical details have not been made publicly available.
So, why anyone is 100% confident that Bryan is basically a single head drop away from death/ paralysis/ pulling a Benoit, I don't understand. Bryan is evidently consulting with doctors, and he seems confident about a potential ring return based on what they've told him. We have no reason to necessarily doubt that. It's not like he's going to the absolute bottom of the barrel free clinic down the street for consultation.
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Vlugge_Japie posted...
-He has done 40 treatments and his brain is vastly improving. Brie also notices this. Imagine thinking this. f***ing vegans, man.
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MRW1215 posted...
Eh. No offense, but I don't understand the "armchair diagnosis" stuff that everyone here seems to like to give. None of us are close enough to the situation to know what Bryan's medical situation is, and as far as I'm aware, his complete medical details have not been made publicly available. I'm amazed it took this long for a post like this to show up. |
ConfessPlease posted...
SeamusOHassey posted...Smh, just give it up, maaaan. La Parka is the best wrestler to ever live. Stop with this dumbass s*** |
likesharks1 posted...
Saxon posted...Next year Bryan Danielson vs. Cody in ROH will be a bigger draw than anything WWE can possibly book. I could actually see that or vs Omega As a straight draw being bigger than most of what WWE could throw down, save maybe Brock vs AJ Or AJ vs Taker or Cena vs Roman
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MRW1215 posted...
Eh. No offense, but I don't understand the "armchair diagnosis" stuff that everyone here seems to like to give. None of us are close enough to the situation to know what Bryan's medical situation is, and as far as I'm aware, his complete medical details have not been made publicly available. Your have a point that a lot of discussion on this topic is based of rough feeling, rather than actual fact. And, to be fair, few (if any) of us know some of the finer details of Bryan's current health, which makes it more difficult to assess. So because of this I decided to do a bit of research into this therapy (which is actually called hyperbaric oxygen treatment). It's actually a fairly old treatment for a variety of conditions (burns, wounds, some brain injuries, etc.) that involves being subjected to higher than normal atmospheric pressure for short periods of time. It's based on the principle that your blood carries more oxygen at higher pressures, and this additional oxygen can improve healing. I haven't had chance to look at how effective it is for most conditions, but it seems to have reached a certain level of acceptance within mainstream medicine. However, its use in post concussion syndrome is still very controversial. There are a few studies that have shown it to improve a patient's condition (vs. no treatment) over a period of years. However, these studies have also been criticised by some for not observing proper experimental controls and overstating their findings. If you want more info the following article gives a decent summary of the situation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5077240/ There is also the Mayo Clinic's page for more general information. Note that "Sports injury" is still listed under insufficient evidence. http://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy/basics/why-its-done/prc-20019167 My conclusion from my, albeit limited, dig into the literature is that Bryan's claims should be met with some suspicion. I don't doubt that he may be feeling better following treatment, but anyone with a knowledge of the placebo effect could tell you that can be misleading. There is also the possibility that this treatment is in fact alleviating some of the worst symptoms of his concussions, but not actually healing the underlying damage to his brain. That would ultimately lead him down a similar path to the one if the treatment was doing nothing. Bryan has also been out of the ring for a while now. Maybe some of this perceived improvement is down to the lower impact lifestyle he's now living. Point is, there are a lot of variables here and medical research is complicated. Also, the fact that his doctor is making such ambitious predictions for a treatment that is still so contested in the medical community is ringing some alarm bells. That doesn't necessarily mean Bryan is being deceived by his doctor, even medical professionals can be mislead by their own biases and their desire to find a new revolutionary treatment (and the rewards that come with it). Maybe in time Bryan will prove people like me to be wrong, and this treatment will become the standard for future brain injuries. It'd certainly be nice if that happened. But, at the moment, there is currently a lot of evidence to show that Bryan has suffered considerable brain damage and a lot less to show that this treatment will do what he wants it to do. So I hope he and others understand my scepticism.
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ConfessPlease posted...
SeamusOHassey posted...Smh, just give it up, maaaan. Best wrestler to ever live? Not even top 10
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Saxon posted...
By the way, can Danielson do the YES! chants in ROH or does WWE own that? Well they can't stop the crowd from doing it so maybe he switches to a double closed fist instead of the 2 index fingers. Matt Hardy still does his delete taunt though he's careful to not directly call it out. |
As someone who has had 10+ concussions and the latest tbi (3 almost 4 years ago) giving me seizures I have such mixed emotions.
No, those treatments are a placebo, your brain doesn't regenerate. It adapts and uses different pathways but the damage is done. But, I commend him for trying to get back. I had drs tell me I wouldn't be able to do a lot of things again and I had to fight them not to disable me. I proved them wrong and got back to my very physical and dangerous job, and doing ok. Yes im slower and have my moments, but I get it. Should he do it? Yes, until youve had something major and everything saying you cant do it, then youll never understand the cards involved. Is it dangerous? Very very dangerous. |
WickedSickJosh posted...
WWE's hand are tied. IF they let Bryan wrestle again and he gets hurt it will be a PR s***storm! This is what people need to understand. WWE is still a corporate business and stuff like that is nasty; PR nightmares are really really nasty.
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Crazy that WWE would go to these lengths just to keep him from being the next Cena. Scumbags.
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SeamusOHassey posted...Smh, just give it up, maaaan. You missed typing "in my opinion" |
The whole reason he stopped was over a brain lesion and those can actually shrink and heal over time anyway. Never mind the fact that he says he retired over misunderstanding a medical term.
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How could Brie let him do it after seeing him have a seizure? Dude must have some mean puppy dog eyes as I thought it was the wife's job to keep you from doing reckless s***.
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KnivesCore714 posted...
likesharks1 posted...Saxon posted...Next year Bryan Danielson vs. Cody in ROH will be a bigger draw than anything WWE can possibly book. Uhhhh......yeah, sorry, you're completely delusional. Daniel Bryan vs Cody Rhodes or Kenny Omega aren't going to outdraw anything WWE puts out except maybe in Japan. Omega is a complete nobody to anybody outside of Japan and the IWC, and Cody never made it big. We saw Bryan vs Cody in WWE when Cody was actually relevant and it wasn't a big money match. |
MRW1215 posted...
Eh. No offense, but I don't understand the "armchair diagnosis" stuff that everyone here seems to like to give. None of us are close enough to the situation to know what Bryan's medical situation is, and as far as I'm aware, his complete medical details have not been made publicly available. Man, this is the internet. And specifically this is the PWB. It's a well established fact that randos on message boards are more knowledgeable than doctors and lawyers and specialists in different fields. I mean, sure, Bryan is far more familiar with his own health, knows his body, is privy to the various doctor's analyses of his condition, and knows infinitely more about the particulars of his situation than anyone else possibly could. But on the other hand I read a dirtsheet article that may or may not have been well researched and I spent like 5 minutes on Web MD reading about concussions so f***ing right I know more about what Bryan should be doing than he does. That's how this works! Now if you'll excuse me I need to find a topic talking about the specifics of Brock Lesnar's contract with WWE so I can talk out my ass about when he can fight in UFC again.
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WickedSickJosh posted...WWE's hand are tied. IF they let Bryan wrestle again and he gets hurt it will be a PR s***storm!
Bryan can go to Japan (and greatly improve the US NJPW audience) but, damn, he'd definitely get hurt over there. Come to think of it, I wonder if that liability will actually work against Bryan getting signed somewhere else (even though he's be a mega star).
He wouldn't get hurt. Despite what it seems they work hard, but not unsafe. The Shibata thing was only, because he's a dummy and needs to stop doing that headbutt.LightSnake: "Sigh....I might've been wrong about a lot this time."
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WWE's hand are tied. IF they let Bryan wrestle again and he gets hurt it will be a PR s***storm!
Bryan can go to Japan (and greatly improve the US NJPW audience) but, damn, he'd definitely get hurt over there. Come to think of it, I wonder if that liability will actually work against Bryan getting signed somewhere else (even though he's be a mega star).
He wouldn't get hurt. Despite what it seems they work hard, but not unsafe. The Shibata thing was only, because he's a dummy and needs to stop doing that headbutt.
A Piledriver off a security railing isn't unsafe?Man is like a piece of cheese...Heatseeker500 posted...Muflaggin posted...
WickedSickJosh posted...
WWE's hand are tied. IF they let Bryan wrestle again and he gets hurt it will be a PR s***storm!
Bryan can go to Japan (and greatly improve the US NJPW audience) but, damn, he'd definitely get hurt over there. Come to think of it, I wonder if that liability will actually work against Bryan getting signed somewhere else (even though he's be a mega star).
He wouldn't get hurt. Despite what it seems they work hard, but not unsafe. The Shibata thing was only, because he's a dummy and needs to stop doing that headbutt.
A Piledriver off a security railing isn't unsafe?
Piledrivers are pretty damn safe despite what people think. Also you do realize he can decline anything he isn't comfortable with right?
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